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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,598 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Tipperary are playing offaly in the football before our game next Sunday (12.45 throw in, we're at 2.30).

    Less pressure on us sunday but we need to avenge last year's Munster final defeat and it would not be bad to beat tipp to Guarantee our qf place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    thesultan wrote: »
    A few things on Loachra Gael they really need to update the format. Focus on the player and not the team. A few things missing. While ken hit the lights out in the 02 Munster final he did the opposite in the next one against Cork and drove a ton of wins. He scored five points in the Wexford qualifier and there was no mention of this. They had a bit of Mount Sion winning Munster but nothing about his tour de force from midfield a few years later when he nearly dragged them over the line on his own. Strange seeing him with teeth as an eighteen year old. I remember him as a penalty taker for Mount Sion and a had a thunderous shot. Was at his peak of a forward in the year 2001 or so. Remember him having a great league and destroying most backs he was on at the time with the exception of Seanie McMahon. He was flying it full against time prior to his ankle injury against Tipperary. He played in a minor final against Lismore . Fairly sure he was a taken a 65. Missed the pick up and fell to his knees while striking and the ball sailed over the ball


    Yeah I see what you mean, I think they were probably just trying to highlight the fact that Ken's best years coincided with our golden years. But I agree they could probably have focussed on the player a bit more rather than the team.
    The Munster championship game v Tipp in 2000 for example where I remember he was on fire and scored about 6 or 7 points from play off Philly Maher before going off with that ankle injury. No surprise we lost our momentum then and Tipp took us by 3. They did show some of his scores from that game to be fair.


    Probably should have mentioned a bit more about his club games as there were many games (county and Munster/AI club championship) he pulled MS through back around the early 00's. Maybe they didn't have much footage.


    Really enjoyed the programme though, some great memories but some painful ones too. Looking at those Limerick goals in 07 still tears my heart out! Cork 06 when Ken's free was saved from going over in the dying seconds and 08 AI final were no better either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,598 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Cake Man wrote: »
    Cork 06 when Ken's free was saved from going over in the dying seconds

    he prob didnt have the power left to put to high ball in and it go over the bar or was he hoping that a waterford player would catch a low ball and put in the net. heartbreaking day we would of given kikenny a right game in the final :(:(:(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    cul beag wrote: »
    Tony Browne to train Lismore this year has anyone heard this? If true it would be a great appointment for them.

    Is Dave Bennett not staying with them then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Waternut


    robopaddy2 wrote: »
    Is Dave Bennett not staying with them then?
    Does that mean that Tony is packing in the playing for Mount Sion?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    robopaddy2 wrote: »
    Is Dave Bennett not staying with them then?

    That I don't know. I heard it over the weekend about Tony Browne but wasn't sure if it was true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Really enjoyed the Laochra Gael programme about Ken Mcgrath,one of the best episodes since the series started many years ago

    Was a huge fan of Ken Mcgrath and was privileged to be there in Thurles when ye beat Cork in 04,by god he had a stormer that day at centre back,

    A real class act,

    A legend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭carter10


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Tipperary are playing offaly in the football before our game next Sunday (12.45 throw in, we're at 2.30).

    Less pressure on us sunday but we need to avenge last year's Munster final defeat and it would not be bad to beat tipp to Guarantee our qf place

    Football game being moved to Tipp town due to concerns over Semple stadium pitch being able to take 2 games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,598 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    carter10 wrote: »
    Football game being moved to Tipp town due to concerns over Semple stadium pitch being able to take 2 games

    damn it always nice to watch the other code before a hurling match. Why do they bother announcing double headers when they know pitches wont be able for 2 games. I thought the pitch in semple would be like croke parks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    cul beag wrote: »
    That I don't know. I heard it over the weekend about Tony Browne but wasn't sure if it was true.

    Shrewd move by Tony if true. Plenty of ideal spots for a bit of fly-fishing along the Blackwater....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,598 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hurling match on at 3pm Sunday now due to weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Hurling match on at 3pm Sunday now due to weather.

    Pushed back 30 minutes to avoid weather that's 4 days away? Must be some accurate forecast they've got biggrin.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Pushed back because the football match was moved to Tipp town amd to give people a chnace to see both. But to be honest, doubt people will go both.

    I assume it was moved because the pitch wouldn't handle two games too well at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    lads which match hurling is on tg4 this week? I know Kerry vs Donegal is the live match but it says Tipp Vs Wat is the deferred match on the42.ie and on paddy power it says KK vs Gal is the deferred one.....I'm abroad so fingers crossed for the Wat game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    lads which match hurling is on tg4 this week? I know Kerry vs Donegal is the live match but it says Tipp Vs Wat is the deferred match on the42.ie and on paddy power it says KK vs Gal is the deferred one.....I'm abroad so fingers crossed for the Wat game


    http://www.tg4.ie/en/sports/gaa-beo/ Tipp Vs Wat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2


    Speak Now wrote: »

    Kerry v Wex in 1B is live from 12.30 aswell? Strange one but nice to see Kerry getting some airtime they've done tremendously well so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,598 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    robopaddy2 wrote: »
    Kerry v Wex in 1B is live from 12.30 aswell? Strange one but nice to see Kerry getting some airtime they've done tremendously well so far

    Even better if they beat wexford

    Ourselves vs Kerry in a qf down in Kerry will be a nice weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭seananigans




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag



    Really looking forward to it now. We have nothing to fear as we have being playing as well as anyone in the league so far. Callinan is back for Tipp and is a tremendous player so a big test for Barry Coughlan but he did fine on him last year so hopefully he does as well again. I don't think Michael Ryan will be taken in by this interview and to be honest the chances of anyone believing us playing the poor mouth are slim to none. We'll be on the shortlist for the major prizes and rightly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭seananigans


    cul beag wrote: »
    Really looking forward to it now. We have nothing to fear as we have being playing as well as anyone in the league so far. Callinan is back for Tipp and is a tremendous player so a big test for Barry Coughlan but he did fine on him last year so hopefully he does as well again. I don't think Michael Ryan will be taken in by this interview and to be honest the chances of anyone believing us playing the poor mouth are slim to none. We'll be on the shortlist for the major prizes and rightly so.

    it would be nice to beat the big three in the same year/ in a row, i odubt it been done before if so not often


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    cul beag wrote: »
    Really looking forward to it now. We have nothing to fear as we have being playing as well as anyone in the league so far. Callinan is back for Tipp and is a tremendous player so a big test for Barry Coughlan but he did fine on him last year so hopefully he does as well again. I don't think Michael Ryan will be taken in by this interview and to be honest the chances of anyone believing us playing the poor mouth are slim to none. We'll be on the shortlist for the major prizes and rightly so.
    If Barry had a bad game Sunday I would be so annoyed if people came on here saying he's not good enough. He had a tremendous 2015, he's the best full back in Waterford by a mile. Again before the KK game this year, people were saying we still need a full back. Ridiculous. In a way he's in a similar position to Joey Holden, people are waiting for him to have a bad game so they can say ahhh well he's not good enough, nothing like JJ delaney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭DiscoStew


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    If Barry had a bad game Sunday I would be so annoyed if people came on here saying he's not good enough. He had a tremendous 2015, he's the best full back in Waterford by a mile. Again before the KK game this year, people were saying we still need a full back. Ridiculous. In a way he's in a similar position to Joey Holden, people are waiting for him to have a bad game so they can say ahhh well he's not good enough, nothing like JJ delaney

    I would have to agree here. I think our full back line has been absolutely outstanding in the last 12 months or so. They have had a little extra protection but each have held some top players during that time. I would be confident enough in them at this stage to take it to the next level and remove the sweeper system in certain situations. This seems to happen at times during games, like against Cork Gleeson seemed to play free at times but out around the middle of the field before dropping back in other situations to allow D Fives play free.
    Intrigued to see how we adapt our game without Maurice present. Gleeson has had a huge influence in the last 2 games. I would have thought him the most likely to move forward to play the Maurice role but I'm not sure they'll be inclined to do this after 2 such performances. The management may also choose to hold this card back and bring it into play during championship perhaps.
    A win here would be hard earned but would afford us the chance to try out some other players in the remaining games which would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    Who's going to replace Maurice? Tom Devine would be my choice. Tipp's new full back Hamill is a decent player, saw him playing Fitzgibbon was always in the half back line though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 739 ✭✭✭robopaddy2




    He's only saying what a lot of Tipp fans believe about themselves anyway. But you can be sure the Tipp players won't buy it. Ive no issue with a manager engaging in a little bit of this its all part of it. Sure isn't the great Cody himself the master of it always publicly bigging up the opposition to be better than what he really believes they are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭HatchetMan7


    On team matters for Sunday, I would think that Gleeson moves to the forward line only if De Burca is back. Without Maurice we need some one that can win the high ball or at least break the ball. I'd love to see Gleeson as the target man to see what he could do. Im also looking forward to seeing D. Fives, De Burca, P. Mahony as the halfback line. I was impressed by Mahony in the first two league games, very underestimated outside the county. I also think that Darragh Fives could have a big year this year, got a great point against Cork.
    If De Burca isn't back and Gleeson stays in the backline then Devine seems like the obvious choice which probably means O' Halloran will get the nod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    On team matters for Sunday, I would think that Gleeson moves to the forward line only if De Burca is back. Without Maurice we need some one that can win the high ball or at least break the ball. I'd love to see Gleeson as the target man to see what he could do. Im also looking forward to seeing D. Fives, De Burca, P. Mahony as the halfback line. I was impressed by Mahony in the first two league games, very underestimated outside the county. I also think that Darragh Fives could have a big year this year, got a great point against Cork.
    If De Burca isn't back and Gleeson stays in the backline then Devine seems like the obvious choice which probably means O' Halloran will get the nod.

    I don't understand the last bit of what you said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Deise189


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    I don't understand the last bit of what you said?

    Probably a reference to Tom being named to start in practically every match last year and always being changed on match day? In any case I think colm Roche could make a case for a start depending on how he was going in training.. Thought he was one of a couple of new lads to really stand out. Although if de Burca is back I'd love to see Aussie up full forward for a while at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,659 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Is TDB fit? Thought he was out for longer tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Deisegal27


    1. Stephen O'Keeffe (Ballygunner)

    2. Shane Fives (Tourin)

    3. Barry Coughlan (Ballygunner)

    4. Noel Connors (Passage)

    5. Austin Gleeson (Mount Sion)

    6. Darragh Fives (Tourin)

    7. Philip Mahony (Ballygunner)

    8. Jamie Barron (Fourmilewater)

    23. Mikey Kearney (Ballyduff Upper)

    10. Kevin Moran (De La Salle) - Captain

    11. Shane Bennett (Ballysaggart)

    12. Michael Walsh (Stradbally)

    13. Patrick Curran (Dungarvan)

    14. Jake Dillon (De La Salle)

    15. Colin Dunford (Colligan)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭DiscoStew


    Interesting replacement. While Kearney has played close to goal for Ballyduff he hasn't had much success in there for Waterford. Some of his better play has been out around the middle third. Did seem to be going fairly well for CIT in the Fitz. I wonder will he actually stay out there with Moran going wing back and Gleeson up front? It would be the most 'like for like' way of replacing Maurice but that's not to say it will happen. Interesting to see how they line out.


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