Eir rural FTTH thread

BandMember · 02-03-2016 01:25PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I wondered something ......... are the blue lines only in places which have Eir ducting in place?

If this is so then the roll out could be very fast once started.

If you look at the maps with the blue lines, they actually make no sense at all!! For example, in one county, there are blue lines that start and finish nowhere - there are no towns or villages around for miles, they are basically lines drawn in the middle of no man's land or on top of a mountain range in a few cases. I wouldn't trust those maps (at present) for one second as there's no way that they can be accurate....

Mr Velo · 02-03-2016 01:39PM

BandMember wrote: »

If you look at the maps with the blue lines, they actually make no sense at all!! For example, in one county, there are blue lines that start and finish nowhere - there are no towns or villages around for miles, they are basically lines drawn in the middle of no man's land or on top of a mountain range in a few cases. I wouldn't trust those maps (at present) for one second as there's no way that they can be accurate....

Well, there's a blue line passing my front door so it better be accurate

Gonzo · 02-03-2016 02:38PM

the blue lines around Meath seem to follow mainly where there is just houses and ribbon developments, very few one off houses are covered by the blue lines and most radiate for about 4km from villages/towns so in most cases they seem planned.

pegasus1 · 02-03-2016 02:54PM

In Kilkenny city there are blue coloured tailings on poles..I will take a pic later..Re how far a blue line goes along a country road and ending on it for example is how many premises it passes...I think 32 giving 2 fibres to each premise on a 64 fibre optic cable...

KOR101 · 02-03-2016 07:22PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Thanks ... reason I asked is that the local blue lines are along ducting lines and end at the ducting.

There are poles along the line also, but only to take the wire up from the duct and into houses without ducting on the site (most it would appear).

Where I am in Kerry, it is just poles and the stop point of the blue line appears to be arbitrary.

The Cush · 02-03-2016 09:39PM

In my area the blue lines end at pothead junction boxes where a smaller cable branches off to small number of individual houses.

This copper/fibre junction box was installed last May by KN doing storm repair work, at a road junction where the current copper cable from the exchange splits to 2 roads and where the blue lines on the map split to the same 2 roads.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 02-03-2016 11:56PM

I may have been wrong about not much happening with eir's rural rollout. I was just checking the Openeir map http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/

Several exchange areas in south Meath seem to have updated information. For example the Tara exchange has the following message:

"Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is Autumn/ Winter 2016"

Others with 2016 dates are Dunderry and Robinstown.

I did not check other areas around the country.

Am I mistaken and these messages have always been there or could this signal the start of the rollout?

ED E · 03-03-2016 12:01AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

ESB is stated owned i think the government would prefer to work with them, may be wrong on that we see?

The OLTs may have been in place as far back as initial FTTC Deployment. Doesnt mean a huge amount until end users start getting appointment dates.

The Cush · 03-03-2016 12:23AM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I did not check other areas around the country.

Clarina, Patrickswell, Kildimo and Inch St Lawrence in Co Limerick also Crossagalla in Limerick city.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 03-03-2016 12:30AM

The Cush wrote: »

Clarina, Patrickswell and Inch St Lawrence in Co Limerick also

Am I correct in thinking that these are new updates from Openeir? All I had seen upto now was the message:

"open eir's FTTH 2017-2020 rollout programme with speeds up to 1Gb/s includes premises in this exchange area."

The Cush · 03-03-2016 12:48AM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Am I correct in thinking that these are new updates from Openeir? All I had seen upto now was the message:

"open eir's FTTH 2017-2020 rollout programme with speeds up to 1Gb/s includes premises in this exchange area."

Yes, they appear to be new. The only dates I recall seeing previously were 2017-2020.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 03-03-2016 12:55AM

The Cush wrote: »

Yes, they appear to be new. The only dates I recall seeing previously were 2017-2020.

Thanks for confirming it. I know that there are a few posters here from the areas in Meath that I mentioned. It will be interesting to see if they can spot any work taking place in the upcoming months.

BuzzG · 03-03-2016 01:13AM

There are loads of them select Fibre Services Planned to show all the exchange area's.

The Cush · 03-03-2016 01:24AM

BuzzG wrote: »

There are loads of them select Fibre Services Planned to show all the exchange area's.

For the 5 exchanges in Limerick I mentioned above, they are already Fibre live (FTTC) and don't appear under Fibre Services Planned, the FTTH information is only available on the Fibre Services Live marker.

Nearby Pallasgreen is going straight to FTTH in Winter 2016, no FTTC services from that exchange.

The Cush · 03-03-2016 09:26AM

Irish Times - Eir to reveal first 100,000 homes for high-speed broadband

siliconrepublic - Eir reveals first 100,000 rural locations to get 1Gbps fibre broadband

KOR101 · 03-03-2016 09:58AM

Steady on folks. EIR needs to start actual connections. Will there really be many of those before the announcement of the NBP winners in the summer. What would be good news is if EIR feels it needs to rush these now to firmly lock them out of NBP.

guil · 03-03-2016 10:06AM

I'm connected to the Curragh camp exchange and thankfully it's on that list. We are not in an NBP area.

rob808 · 03-03-2016 11:01AM

KOR101 wrote: »

Steady on folks. EIR needs to start actual connections. Will there really be many of those before the announcement of the NBP winners in the summer. What would be good news is if EIR feels it needs to rush these now to firmly lock them out of NBP.

It really gona mess up the NBP map they probably end given Eir half the NBP.It other wise costing the goverment more money it going to be interesting to see what the winning bidder(s) are going to do when time come around.

MBSnr · 03-03-2016 11:17AM

The Cush wrote: »

Irish Times - Eir to reveal first 100,000 homes for high-speed broadband

siliconrepublic - Eir reveals first 100,000 rural locations to get 1Gbps fibre broadband

It's good news. Although some of those locations are hardly 'rural' - Castlebar, Westport, Finglas.... (and surely covered by decent speed internet services already - what's the logic in targeting them? Finglas - 16760 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb).

godskitchen · 03-03-2016 11:23AM

MBSnr wrote: »

It's good news. Although some of those locations are hardly 'rural' - Castlebar, Westport, Finglas.... (and surely covered by decent speed internet services already - what's the logic in targeting them?).

It's already available in Castlebar.....

MBSnr · 03-03-2016 11:29AM

godskitchen wrote: »

It's already available in Castlebar.....

OK - ignore Castlebar...

I was surprised to see on the list a whole load of non rural locations, under the headline "Eir reveals first 100,000 rural locations to get 1Gbps fibre broadband"

Just saying.

joe_99 · 03-03-2016 11:33AM

The FTTH roll-out here will service the outskirts of these towns initially not the centres that can already get FTTC. It is a ribbon roll-out along the roads out of these towns. It is aimed at addresses that can only currently, at best ,receive ADSL and are outside the range of FTTC. So effectively they are rural locations.

bk · 03-03-2016 11:50AM

MBSnr wrote: »

It's good news. Although some of those locations are hardly 'rural' - Castlebar, Westport, Finglas.... (and surely covered by decent speed internet services already - what's the logic in targeting them? Finglas - 16760 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb).

That is down to the difference between what most people consider "rural" and what is "rural" from a telecoms perspective.

Most Irish people consider anything outside of the cities to be "rural" Ireland.

While from a telecoms perspective, population density is more important. Parts of Finglas could be very low density and thus considered "rural" from a telecoms perspective. While a town like Westport is actually relatively high density and thus considered "urban" from a telecoms perspective.

The other issue that Eir faces is that they aren't only looking to win the NBP, they are also worried about SIRO bringing their FTTH to the bigger "urban" towns aroudn the country. So they are trying to get their own fibre in their first to try and discourage SIRO and sign people up first.

Persiancowboy · 03-03-2016 12:21PM

This is more spin and press release media stuff than anything else. Most if not all of the locations mentioned in Press Release have solid critical mass when it comes to clusters of premises.....doubt any of this impinges in the slightest on the NBP map. Even somewhere like donard in wicklow is dubious....Eir have been conducting technical/engineering trials there for several months and it will be interesting to see how far outside the actual village they are preparing to go (if at all).

Expect lots more of this carry on in coming months from most of the big players including SIRO (remember them?) as they all jostle for position in advance of the tender phase of NBP hotting up.

pegasus1 · 03-03-2016 12:33PM

List of towns and number of houses

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/eir-announces-new-broadband-rollout-is-your-town-on-the-list-34507725.html

rob808 · 03-03-2016 12:35PM

Persiancowboy wrote: »

This is more spin and press release media stuff than anything else. Most if not all of the locations mentioned in Press Release have solid critical mass when it comes to clusters of premises.....doubt any of this impinges in the slightest on the NBP map. Even somewhere like donard in wicklow is dubious....Eir have been conducting technical/engineering trials there for several months and it will be interesting to see how far outside the actual village they are preparing to go (if at all).

Expect lots more of this carry on in coming months from most of the big players including SIRO (remember them?) as they all jostle for position in advance of the tender phase of NBP hotting up.

It leaves 657,000 homes on the NBP which is still quite a lot I say the bidder(s) and Government aren't happy but they press along.The thing I worry about the house eir don't do and are very close to houses that do have FTTH the bidder(s) mightn't bother doing FTTH to them because it might be to costly for them to do.

Shyboy · 03-03-2016 12:38PM

My village in County Galway is on the list for Autumn/Winter 2016. I feel that they have already been working on this for a while. Last year, they replaced all of the poles and cable and put up a very thick cable alongside the regular thin cable. I thought at the time that it looked like fibre, but doubted why our area would have it?

They have recently installed a large green box about 2km from us, looks quite a bit larger than a regular EVDSL box.

So, to see our village on the list maybe explains all of the work that KN have been doing in our area...

Kristopherus · 03-03-2016 12:52PM

godskitchen wrote: »

It's already available in Castlebar.....

.......in a few small areas only.

joe_99 · 03-03-2016 01:07PM

This roll out is not aimed at customers than can currently get FTTC. It is not targeting the high density areas. It will be serving the footprints outside of the FTTC coverage areas. These are the low hanging fruit that the NBP would have captured. The remaining NBP areas are now much more remote and therefore even less viable commercially even under NBP.

ACLFC7 · 03-03-2016 01:10PM

Shyboy wrote: »

My village in County Galway is on the list for Autumn/Winter 2016. I feel that they have already been working on this for a while. Last year, they replaced all of the poles and cable and put up a very thick cable alongside the regular thin cable. I thought at the time that it looked like fibre, but doubted why our area would have it?

They have recently installed a large green box about 2km from us, looks quite a bit larger than a regular EVDSL box.

So, to see our village on the list maybe explains all of the work that KN have been doing in our area...

Any chance you could take a picture of that "large green box". I'm trying to figure out what I should be looking out for.

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