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"I don't know what they expected. There was no where for anyone to get sick."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Joe Duffy covered this in depth yesterday if any of ye want to listen back for a laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Trinners for keeping down their dinners

    Reminds me of the kickers, pitchers, maulers and growlers party back in the day. There were a few careers took a detour after that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    To be perfectly honest there needs to be a complete ban enforced on the consumption of alcohol on the Galway trains.
    I use it often enough to have run into more then my fair share of stag parties, students on a bender and middle aged cackling haradins kocking back bottles of white wine. None of which I have anything against, but at the same time, none of which I want to be trapped in an enclosed space with for several hours.
    If people can't behave like civilized respectful human beings for a couple of hours then the most of us I suspect would rather endure a ban on booze on that line rather then endure the parade of drunken muppets that frequent it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    "Muppetise". What a beautiful word OP, I'm stealing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Love that they got in a bit of Trinity snobbery.
    “We regularly have student charters from Trinity and have never had a problem with the condition that the train was left in,” the rail service added.
    They should tell that to the ski resort the Trinners nearly destroyed a few years ago...

    Ah leave them alone, they were on the piste!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    conorhal wrote: »
    To be perfectly honest there needs to be a complete ban enforced on the consumption of alcohol on the Galway trains.
    There already is such a ban.

    Whether it's enforced or not, I don't know though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Breaking news - "Irish students get drunk, act the fool."

    Joe Duffy's the right place for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    cdeb wrote: »
    There already is such a ban.

    Whether it's enforced or not, I don't know though.

    I'm guessing not, that article is from 2014, clearly nobody told the hen party of 8 that left 16 empty bottles of wine on their tables when they staggered off when last I was on that train in October....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    cdeb wrote: »
    There already is such a ban.

    Whether it's enforced or not, I don't know though.

    Not at all,

    Myself and a buddy were going from Ballina to Dublin and were hiding our drinks under the table like little schoolboys, sneaking a mouthful here and there - then we saw a fella stroll the length of the carriage, squeezing past the conductor on route, with a bottle of Miller in his hand

    Needless to say our drinks were soon on the table and not a word was said when our tickets were checked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Hands up who never puked while drinking as a student? What they did wasn't great behaviour, but lot of people on their high horse about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    conorhal wrote: »
    To be perfectly honest there needs to be a complete ban enforced on the consumption of alcohol on the Galway trains.
    I use it often enough to have run into more then my fair share of stag parties, students on a bender and middle aged cackling haradins kocking back bottles of white wine. None of which I have anything against, but at the same time, none of which I want to be trapped in an enclosed space with for several hours.
    If people can't behave like civilized respectful human beings for a couple of hours then the most of us I suspect would rather endure a ban on booze on that line rather then endure the parade of drunken muppets that frequent it.

    Would ya p1ss off! My GF and I often pop a bottle of Prosecco and a bag of crisps on the way down from Dublin after i've been up there for work. Bothering no one, having a chat (and often gave a glass to someone sitting next to us, who often joined in rambling conversation).

    I've been interrupted much more by absolute loonies on that train before who insist on shouting across the carriage to you, who are perfectly sober. Maybe we should just ban the nut-jobs from boarding the train?

    What SHOULD be enforced is the train conductor being present on the train and regular walks up and down the train to ensure there is no anti-social behavior. One complaint or obviously acting the muppet = drink confiscated.

    I have absolutely no intention on taking a hit because of these muppets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    cdeb wrote: »
    There already is such a ban.

    Whether it's enforced or not, I don't know though.

    I don't think that's on all Galway trains though, just the ones they had specific problems with (Sunday afternoon I think?).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    1pm from Galway on Sunday, and some Friday afternoon ones on other routes.

    Which seems a sensible approach in fairness. Although would have thought action on the Friday train to Galway made more sense than on the Sunday train back to Dublin.

    But if posters above have been on the exact trains and say there's drink, then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Once you don't act the b0llox and annoy other passengers you should be able to drink whatever you want on a train

    act up and you should have the garda waiting at the next station


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Hands up who never puked while drinking as a student? What they did wasn't great behaviour, but lot of people on their high horse about it.
    Is it not more the trashing of the train than mere getting drunk and puking by itself though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ice Maiden wrote: »
    Is it not more the trashing of the train than mere getting drunk and puking by itself though?

    I don't see seats getting thrown through windows and tear gas being let off

    puke seems to be the "trashing"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    I don't see seats getting thrown through windows and tear gas being let off

    puke seems to be the "trashing"
    Well, dirtied up the train with vomit and "other fluids" to the point that it had to be taken out of service and deep cleaned. Criticising that is hardly the same as criticising students getting drunk and puking in the general sense!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭Doylers


    Why is alcohol even aloud on trains can people not go 2 hours without drinking or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Ice Maiden wrote: »
    Well, dirtied up the train with vomit and "other fluids" to the point that it had to be taken out of service and deep cleaned. Criticising that is hardly the same as criticising students getting drunk and puking in the general sense!

    Vomit, other fluids and a used condom (according to the student newspaper report).

    At least they were practising safe sex, I suppose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    Once you don't act the b0llox and annoy other passengers you should be able to drink whatever you want on a train

    act up and you should have the garda waiting at the next station
    But if respectful passengers turn into b0llox acting headwrecks after a few drinks, the horse has bolted. Bar carriages (and no alcoholic drinks elsewhere on the train) seems the way around it in my opinion.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Doylers wrote: »
    Why is alcohol even aloud on trains can people not go 2 hours without drinking or something?
    Why shouldn't it be allowed?

    If people want a quiet drink, then there's no issue.

    It's just excessive stags/college groups that are the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    There were 5 working cubicles at the start of the journey.

    I doubt that. Every time I take an IR train, there is a toilet that doesn't flush, or doesn't flush well, or has no water to flush with. I remember in 2010 and 2011 a few companies up in belfast were paying for flights for us interviewees because a few of us commented on the state of trains on our journies up from Dublin and Tipp. I seriously doubt that IR even maintain their toilets well enough to be kept operational on a normal day, let alone for an extra service.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Ah would you stop.

    There were 6 toilets on the train per the article - 5 were working at the start, so allow for one out of service, and there's your one out of order covered.

    Then four more went out of service during the trip. That can only be one thing - the passengers.

    You can doubt based on nothing all you like. But generally, it pays to at least pay some heed to what's being reported rather than just assume everything is going to be the same as your - evidently biased and limited - experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    I'd prefer a train full of students than this...

    https://www.facebook.com/bewarmers/videos/673975129379598/?fref=nf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    What else can you expect when Irish Rail have been allowed to get rid of almost all staff from their trains. The guy/girl on the snack trolley is usually the only person on the train apart from the driver. That Neanderthal looks like he needs serious help.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    What, so we should now have to pay for two or three security people on each train for the very, very, very occasional loon like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    cdeb wrote: »
    What, so we should now have to pay for two or three security people on each train for the very, very, very occasional loon like that?

    The general jist of this thread says YES re. anti-social behavior / loonies etc.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    The general gist of this thread is about a charter train, so hardly relevant.

    You get a few drunks/parties on a few trains - they can be annoying, but there's intercoms in each carriage to communicate with staff if required.

    You hardly ever get anything aggressive like in that video.

    So I don't think Del.Monte is correct in blaming the incident in the video on a lack of staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    To be fair, I'm pregnant and suffering from very bad sickness. If that one toilet had been occupied what would I do?

    Granted their condition was caused by drinking, but still it isn't the only reason someone would throw up in their seat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    cdeb wrote: »
    What, so we should now have to pay for two or three security people on each train for the very, very, very occasional loon like that?

    One member of staff - a train guard - would be a good idea, but CIE couldn't wait to get rid of them. When trains were properly staffed the guard could also have called on the catering crew as they would have been CIE staff not private contractors. I'm talking about the loon not the train full of drunk students. It goes without saying that the operation of the special train should have been adequately policed to ensure there was no trouble, but then CIE have always skimped on security. Years ago it was GAA specials that used to get trashed.


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