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  • #4202
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    alps wrote: »
    Had the serviceman on washing early last year. He said it is NOT ADVISED, but got us to do a descale wash, stopping before the descale is rinsed and go directly to caustic wash without any pre rinses and let the cycle rinse out after that.
    I reckon the tank was vibrating, but man you could use the inside as a mirror for shaving afterwards.

    You'd want to be careful alright depending on product used chlorine gas could be released


  • #4203
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    When tanks on final rinse fire in 250ml of peracitc acid our a bit more if it's a big tank, likewise when doing final rinse on parlour

    That's a great tip. I do this whenever thermo is rising.


  • #4204
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Had the option of a third pump for a paracetic rinse when getting the tank here didn't go for it no issues yet but can be put in if needed. I also use it in the final rinse of the plant at every milking. Hot water going to tank is OK I assume


  • #4205
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,783 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    visatorro wrote: »
    Tbc was 50 last collection, did usual, hot washes, descale. TBC 75 this morning. In serious bother. Tank seems to be washing OK. Cooling a little bit slow maybe. Any other tips or things to check. Glanbia lad was here and said plant wasn't too bad. Will I change liners and tubing??

    Also who do lads get to service tanks in the north east area. PM if you like.
    as others said inplate cooler. Do you pay bulk tank maintenance fee to glanbia. Will pm you the number of the guys we use. Also how often do you flush out the pipeline?


  • #4206
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭alps


    Milked out wrote: »
    You'd want to be careful alright depending on product used chlorine gas could be released

    Leave the area.....


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  • #4207
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    visatorro wrote: »
    Tbc was 50 last collection, did usual, hot washes, descale. TBC 75 this morning. In serious bother. Tank seems to be washing OK. Cooling a little bit slow maybe. Any other tips or things to check. Glanbia lad was here and said plant wasn't too bad. Will I change liners and tubing??

    Also who do lads get to service tanks in the north east area. PM if you like.

    You have to isolate where the problem is so I suggest this if not done already.

    1) get test bottles and take sample before the plate cooler, then another after plate cooler, then one from the tank. To see if they differ then you can rule the tank or cooler out

    2) if that shows up nothing test your water

    3) If tank and cooler low its your machine somewhere, overlooked likely place is the pipe linking sanitary trap to the recieving jar

    Check these first


  • #4208
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    You have to isolate where the problem is so I suggest this if not done already.

    1) get test bottles and take sample before the plate cooler, then another after plate cooler, then one from the tank. To see if they differ then you can rule the tank or cooler out

    2) if that shows up nothing test your water

    3) If tank and cooler low its your machine somewhere, overlooked likely place is the pipe linking sanitary trap to the recieving jar

    Check these first
    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    You have to isolate where the problem is so I suggest this if not done already.

    1) get test bottles and take sample before the plate cooler, then another after plate cooler, then one from the tank. To see if they differ then you can rule the tank or cooler out

    2) if that shows up nothing test your water

    3) If tank and cooler low its your machine somewhere, overlooked likely place is the pipe linking sanitary trap to the recieving jar

    **Edit if tank and cooler high its before these so in machine!!!!!

    Check these first

    So you must look at water and check machine and wash routine


  • #4209
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    visatorro wrote: »
    Tbc was 50 last collection, did usual, hot washes, descale. TBC 75 this morning. In serious bother. Tank seems to be washing OK. Cooling a little bit slow maybe. Any other tips or things to check. Glanbia lad was here and said plant wasn't too bad. Will I change liners and tubing??

    Also who do lads get to service tanks in the north east area. PM if you like.

    We used cooks town when we were milking.


  • #4210
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Thanks for all the replies, no plate cooler here so rules that out. I ment to see exactly what acids etc I'm using but was rushing today and got nothing done. Glanbia man was happy with brands I was using, gonna organise tank service tomorrow. Liners are not due to be changed but if I can't find problem I'll change them. I'll check the valve between the jars in the morning. I'll have to get it sorted asap or the lorry will stop coming in!!


  • #4211
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,783 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    visatorro wrote: »
    Thanks for all the replies, no plate cooler here so rules that out. I ment to see exactly what acids etc I'm using but was rushing today and got nothing done. Glanbia man was happy with brands I was using, gonna organise tank service tomorrow. Liners are not due to be changed but if I can't find problem I'll change them. I'll check the valve between the jars in the morning. I'll have to get it sorted asap or the lorry will stop coming in!!
    Was it the last few collections of february that were over? If the problem can be sorted soon they might cancel the penalty


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  • #4212
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Was it the last few collections of february that were over? If the problem can be sorted soon they might cancel the penalty

    Was hovering slightly high, but spiked last two collections


  • #4213
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    visatorro wrote: »
    Was hovering slightly high, but spiked last two collections

    When it starts to hover higher than the norm that's when u need to take action, but sure hindsight is great, we've all been there.
    I'd take 3 samples, from the milkline before the plate cooler, after the paler cooler, and one out of the tank. That should tell u v quickly where the problem lies. Although if uve done a good descaler and acid hot wash the problem might be gone already.


  • #4214
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Cow porter asked me what alkaline I was using. Others mention acid. Is there different types of product?


  • #4215
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    visatorro wrote: »
    Cow porter asked me what alkaline I was using. Others mention acid. Is there different types of product?

    Alkaline would be referred to as the detergent in some cases and is the everyday wash the likes of avalkasan or circodine p or whatever product you use. Acid is the descale. Everything with a ph above 7 is alkaline, or basic, and below 7 is acidic.


  • #4216
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Hydrosen plus I think. I not sure what the descale is called.


  • #4217
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,783 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    visatorro wrote: »
    Hydrosen plus I think. I not sure what the descale is called.
    Do you have a water heater is it working properly?


  • #4218
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Do you have a water heater is it working properly?

    Yeah , dunno exactly what temp its set too but you wouldn't leave your hand under the tap anyway.


  • #4219
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    visatorro wrote: »
    Cow porter asked me what alkaline I was using. Others mention acid. Is there different types of product?

    go in to the 'producing clean milk' link on this page http://www.greenfielddairy.ie/node/97

    http://www.greenfielddairy.ie/files/uploads/PDF/Gleeson,%20David%20-%20Producing%20Clean%20Milk.pdf

    alkaline removes fat and proteins.

    it can be just a caustic solution which doesnt sterilize and so you need to add chlorine -TCM residue problem then, or add peracetic acid to last rinse

    or it can be a caustic and chlorine solution which cleans and sterilizes


    acid removes mineral deposits. some acids contain sterilizer. recommend to do acid once a week but if using peracetic on last wash once a month will do, you cannot add peracetic straight away to last wash after a chlorine wash, need a break in between so e.g. put in peracetic in last 50% of water in final wash

    check milk docket for temperate to make sure thermostat isnt gone


  • #4220
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    go in to the 'producing clean milk' link on this page http://www.greenfielddairy.ie/node/97

    http://www.greenfielddairy.ie/files/uploads/PDF/Gleeson,%20David%20-%20Producing%20Clean%20Milk.pdf

    alkaline removes fat and proteins.

    it can be just a caustic solution which doesnt sterilize and so you need to add chlorine -TCM residue problem then, or add peracetic acid to last rinse

    or it can be a caustic and chlorine solution which cleans and sterilizes


    acid removes mineral deposits. some acids contain sterilizer. recommend to do acid once a week but if using peracetic on last wash once a month will do, you cannot add peracetic straight away to last wash after a chlorine wash, need a break in between so e.g. put in peracetic in last 50% of water in final wash

    check milk docket for temperate to make sure thermostat isnt gone

    also don't leave a caustic + chlorine solution in the plant between milkings, only do this with products containing no chlorine


  • #4221
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    All grazing got 20units Urea. First cut silage got 40units Urea.
    Might give 35units of Sulphur to the above next week when finished on cereals.
    On track to have 100% grazed (milkers) for March 15.


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  • #4222
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dawggone wrote: »
    All grazing got 20units Urea. First cut silage got 40units Urea.
    Might give 35units of Sulphur to the above next week when finished on cereals.
    On track to have 100% grazed (milkers) for March 15.

    I've said it on at least 2 occasions previously but I'll say it again.... I hate you
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    "Jealous"


  • #4223
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    I've said it on at least 2 occasions previously but I'll say it again.... I hate you
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    "Jealous"



    This has turned out to be a late spring this year due to incessant rain since the new year Darragh. When you guys are kicking grass out of the way in the summer I'll be burned up...


  • #4224
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Dawggone wrote: »
    This has turned out to be a late spring this year due to incessant rain since the new year Darragh. When you guys are kicking grass out of the way in the summer I'll be burned up...
    That sounds good right now...


  • #4225
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    That sounds good right now...

    Not to me though. A nice wet summer would hit the spot!


  • #4226
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Not to me though. A nice wet summer would hit the spot!

    Are you near Gardiners, when i was there last june, they were terribly burnt up, does the land go like that every year, he also remarked that his land would tolerate it better than a lot of france


  • #4227
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Are you near Gardiners, when i was there last june, they were terribly burnt up, does the land go like that every year, he also remarked that his land would tolerate it better than a lot of france

    I'm 300/400km from them. Yes that area wouldn't be the best land in France but it does need the dry summers for cereals etc.


  • #4228
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Cows won't see grass this side of paddy's day here by the looks of things.


  • #4229
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Cows out past week during day bar sunday, ground conditions very tricky atm. High ground isn't too bad on high ground but lower spots aren't manageable here at the moment


  • #4230
    Mehaffey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭Mehaffey1


    Getting a farm walk in today and have the equity partner coming down for a drive round and make a decision to go OAD milking or not. Think we might be swayed by OAD since we're a staff member short after today. Cows doing about 1.4kgMS per day still though.


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  • #4231
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Dawggone wrote: »
    All grazing got 20units Urea. First cut silage got 40units Urea.
    Might give 35units of Sulphur to the above next week when finished on cereals.
    On track to have 100% grazed (milkers) for March 15.

    What's your stocking rate dawg? Or maybe put another way how much land per cow do you use considering you seem to be able to grow all of their feed requirements from soya to grass? With the N restrictions you operate under sr on grazing ground probably wouldn't be a good comparator.


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