Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

28-02-2016 06:14PM

FixitFelix wrote: »

Thats your response to me asking if controlling everything was the boards job?

Think you need to step away and have a breather, today's result is seriously effecting you

Heh, lol.

Mr.Micro · 28-02-2016 06:16PM

It's coming good for LVG now. He has discovered a new striker in Rashford and is winning against the odds. Maybe Wenger should try some of the youth players and give some of the overpaid guys a rest.

Ol' Donie · 28-02-2016 06:27PM

brianregan09 wrote: »

Ancelloti for me fantastic manager and has been a success everywhere he's been even at the pressure cooker in Madrid

This the lad who's taking over from Pep at Bayern?

Ol' Donie · 28-02-2016 06:29PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

It's coming good for LVG now. He has discovered a new striker in Rashford and is winning against the odds. Maybe Wenger should try some of the youth players and give some of the overpaid guys a rest.

Coming good? They're lucky to be in 5th after spending about 20 billion quid.

Mr.Micro · 28-02-2016 06:42PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Coming good? They're lucky to be in 5th after spending about 20 billion quid.

The season is not over yet. Looks like they are on the up to me. With the right manager?Something we need to look at too.

28-02-2016 06:47PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

The season is not over yet. Looks like they are on the up to me. With the right manager?Something we need to look at too.

They lost to Sunderland in their previous premier league match.

Ol' Donie · 28-02-2016 06:54PM

Basil3 wrote: »

They lost to Sunderland in their previous premier league match.

And we're still 7 pts ahead of them, without hurling 750 billion quid at the team.

Jesus.

28-02-2016 07:05PM

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

tayto lover · 28-02-2016 07:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

Mr.Micro · 28-02-2016 07:18PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

And we're still 7 pts ahead of them, without hurling 750 billion quid at the team.

Jesus.

For now. Plenty of time to mess that up too.

emergingstar · 28-02-2016 07:18PM

Pure bottle job

Simeone is the answer yer all looking for

Mr.Micro · 28-02-2016 07:19PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

That mind set is not going away with the set up we have.

emmetlego · 28-02-2016 07:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

Why do you say that? I thought we started quite well, in fact Nacho should have had us 1 up early on!

28-02-2016 07:47PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Why do you say that? I thought we started quite well, in fact Nacho should have had us 1 up early on!

Yeah that was the first 10 minutes, after that we were clueless.

bad2dabone · 28-02-2016 07:49PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

I completely agree with this

keano_afc · 28-02-2016 07:55PM

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

28-02-2016 07:56PM

keano_afc wrote: »

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

If you put in a gif you'll be done for trolling

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28-02-2016 07:57PM

keano_afc wrote: »

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

Jaafa · 28-02-2016 08:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

bad2dabone · 28-02-2016 08:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

Like making a team who's priority is victory. We should have smashed that United side. Instead they deserved a win. Even the ref was favorable to us.
I've had enough of this groundhog stuff. We're an annual joke now. Serial bottlers in the league, always knocked out of the CL at the same stage.
Tired of it.

Quazzie · 28-02-2016 08:02PM

Jaafa wrote: »

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

extra gravy · 28-02-2016 08:03PM

I thought it was fitting that our ineptitude in the transfer market was summed up by the final sub. 3-2 down at OT desperate for a win to keep us in the title race and we bring on an inexperienced 19 year old. £200m in the bank but yet there was no striker out there that could offer us a better alternative in that situation. It's unforgivable really.

Jaafa · 28-02-2016 08:03PM

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

This I accept may be true.

gosplan · 28-02-2016 08:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

That's a bit much.

But we should start scouting for a new manager.

Mr Blobby · 28-02-2016 08:12PM

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

I don't agree.
Feels more he doesn't know how to win any other way. I've seen us try different tactics and win (counter, park the bus) but we still always fall back on our old style even when it'll kill us.

gosplan · 28-02-2016 08:12PM

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

This is true but it goes further I think.

When the line is there to be crossed, he just can't motivate his team to cross it.

The league is there for the taking, we have a fantastic squad, nearly all fit. We're playing the worst football we've played for 2 years. No-one is in form. It's very disappointing but he doesn't inspire his players when it matters.

It could be worse but we should start looking for someone better.

Pudders · 28-02-2016 08:17PM

So I'm now on the train back to London. Last time we lost to Chelsea I got banned for a month. I'll try to be measured but:

There are probably few on here that go to as many games week in week out as me. Season ticket. Only missed the Christmas period games. Today was my 8th away game this season (home and abroad). Have been at all cup home games including the Mickey Mouse cup. Going to the Barca away leg which no doubt will be a disaster.

I know I am lucky and privileged to be able to do so. But I also think the money I spend and amount I see this team gives me a right to an opinion even if it goes against people who question my loyalty.

Wenger has to go. He is not up to it. Won't spend the £150m or whatever amount of cash we have. He is too loyal to players not up to it. He won't make the hard decisions on dropping players out if form. He says he doesn't want to buy too many players (more than 2-3) as it will disrupt the team but then buys nobody and leaves gaping holes where it is painfully obvious that we need help for years. Tactically he is weak. Too many big games we are beat before we start.

This year and 2 years ago were prime chances for us to win the league if he had bought well. 2 years ago Walcott crocked so he buys a player with a broken back. This year both transfer windows have been utterly ludicrous. And if people say we can't sign anyone better than what we currently have they are being delusional.

The league is gone. Worse it will probably be Spurs. Worse they deserve it. A young manager going places.

This train is like a morgue. Coming up people weren't optimistic but now it is depressing.

Wenger did great things but his time is up. The sooner the better.

28-02-2016 08:22PM

Jaafa wrote: »

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

Then what's he doing? It's 4 years since the "shackles" were meant to come off, yet we're right where we were then. Even in his job he cares more about his job than results. We're going nowhere but we're going there very quickly.

omega man · 28-02-2016 08:27PM

Watch City storm back into the title race now.

jonneymendoza · 28-02-2016 08:33PM

I've given up on arsenal. Seasons over

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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