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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

Dozen Wicked Words

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Mod Note 29/12/15 - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98223661&postcount=5252

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Ol' Donie

bad2dabone wrote: »

Like making a team who's priority is victory. We should have smashed that United side. Instead they deserved a win. Even the ref was favorable to us.
I've had enough of this groundhog stuff. We're an annual joke now. Serial bottlers in the league, always knocked out of the CL at the same stage.
Tired of it.

So you're saying Wenger went there today with the priority of...what? Not winning?

greendom

I nearly always defend Arsene, but I just can't after that inept performance from the majority of the players. No excuses, that was a game that had to be won. We were virtually given an open goal to win the league, with traditional rivals United and Chelsea so far of the pace and City not playing at the level expected.

It looks like that open goal has been missed, and to make matters worse it's Spurs that will benefit.

tayto lover

jonneymendoza wrote: »

I've given up on arsenal. Seasons over

Said the same a few weeks ago. RIP 2015/16.

jonneymendoza

I've given up on arsenal. Seasons over

omega man

Watch City storm back into the title race now.

[Deleted User]

Jaafa wrote: »

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

Then what's he doing? It's 4 years since the "shackles" were meant to come off, yet we're right where we were then. Even in his job he cares more about his job than results. We're going nowhere but we're going there very quickly.

Pudders

So I'm now on the train back to London. Last time we lost to Chelsea I got banned for a month. I'll try to be measured but:

There are probably few on here that go to as many games week in week out as me. Season ticket. Only missed the Christmas period games. Today was my 8th away game this season (home and abroad). Have been at all cup home games including the Mickey Mouse cup. Going to the Barca away leg which no doubt will be a disaster.

I know I am lucky and privileged to be able to do so. But I also think the money I spend and amount I see this team gives me a right to an opinion even if it goes against people who question my loyalty.

Wenger has to go. He is not up to it. Won't spend the £150m or whatever amount of cash we have. He is too loyal to players not up to it. He won't make the hard decisions on dropping players out if form. He says he doesn't want to buy too many players (more than 2-3) as it will disrupt the team but then buys nobody and leaves gaping holes where it is painfully obvious that we need help for years. Tactically he is weak. Too many big games we are beat before we start.

This year and 2 years ago were prime chances for us to win the league if he had bought well. 2 years ago Walcott crocked so he buys a player with a broken back. This year both transfer windows have been utterly ludicrous. And if people say we can't sign anyone better than what we currently have they are being delusional.

The league is gone. Worse it will probably be Spurs. Worse they deserve it. A young manager going places.

This train is like a morgue. Coming up people weren't optimistic but now it is depressing.

Wenger did great things but his time is up. The sooner the better.

gosplan

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

This is true but it goes further I think.

When the line is there to be crossed, he just can't motivate his team to cross it.

The league is there for the taking, we have a fantastic squad, nearly all fit. We're playing the worst football we've played for 2 years. No-one is in form. It's very disappointing but he doesn't inspire his players when it matters.

It could be worse but we should start looking for someone better.

Mr Blobby

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

I don't agree.
Feels more he doesn't know how to win any other way. I've seen us try different tactics and win (counter, park the bus) but we still always fall back on our old style even when it'll kill us.

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

That's a bit much.

But we should start scouting for a new manager.

Jaafa

Quazzie wrote: »

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

This I accept may be true.

extra gravy

I thought it was fitting that our ineptitude in the transfer market was summed up by the final sub. 3-2 down at OT desperate for a win to keep us in the title race and we bring on an inexperienced 19 year old. £200m in the bank but yet there was no striker out there that could offer us a better alternative in that situation. It's unforgivable really.

Quazzie

Jaafa wrote: »

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

He believes in his philosophies more than winning. He will never try win a game dirty. He tries to win beautiful and is willing to lose rather than change that style of play.

bad2dabone

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

Like making a team who's priority is victory. We should have smashed that United side. Instead they deserved a win. Even the ref was favorable to us.
I've had enough of this groundhog stuff. We're an annual joke now. Serial bottlers in the league, always knocked out of the CL at the same stage.
Tired of it.

Jaafa

Deleted User wrote: »

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

There are many many valid criticism one can make of Wenger but I refuse to believe he care's about any more than winning. He is not a man in the game for the money.

[Deleted User]

keano_afc wrote: »

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

We need the manager to have some principles beyond his bank balance.

[Deleted User]

keano_afc wrote: »

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

If you put in a gif you'll be done for trolling

keano_afc

Surely there can be no dissenting voices now. We need a change in management. The same mistakes and abject performances are being put in by different personnel. The only constant is the manager. He just can't cut it anymore.

bad2dabone

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

I completely agree with this

[Deleted User]

emmetlego wrote: »

Why do you say that? I thought we started quite well, in fact Nacho should have had us 1 up early on!

Yeah that was the first 10 minutes, after that we were clueless.

emmetlego

Deleted User wrote: »

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

Why do you say that? I thought we started quite well, in fact Nacho should have had us 1 up early on!

Mr.Micro

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

That mind set is not going away with the set up we have.

emergingstar

Pure bottle job

Simeone is the answer yer all looking for

Mr.Micro

Ol' Donie wrote: »

And we're still 7 pts ahead of them, without hurling 750 billion quid at the team.

Jesus.

For now. Plenty of time to mess that up too.

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

You should be used to it by now.
We haven't won at OT since 2006.
They could send out 11 cardboard cut-outs and beat us.
Poor mindset in our players and manager.

[Deleted User]

After the first 10 minutes we never were gonna win. Sad stuff really.

Ol' Donie

Basil3 wrote: »

They lost to Sunderland in their previous premier league match.

And we're still 7 pts ahead of them, without hurling 750 billion quid at the team.

Jesus.

[Deleted User]

Mr.Micro wrote: »

The season is not over yet. Looks like they are on the up to me. With the right manager?Something we need to look at too.

They lost to Sunderland in their previous premier league match.

Mr.Micro

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Coming good? They're lucky to be in 5th after spending about 20 billion quid.

The season is not over yet. Looks like they are on the up to me. With the right manager?Something we need to look at too.

Ol' Donie

Mr.Micro wrote: »

It's coming good for LVG now. He has discovered a new striker in Rashford and is winning against the odds. Maybe Wenger should try some of the youth players and give some of the overpaid guys a rest.

Coming good? They're lucky to be in 5th after spending about 20 billion quid.