Heroin

26-02-2016 11:20AM #1

A mad bizarre though crossed my little middle class mind today. I wonder what it is like to take Heroin ? Could one take it and not get addicted, like if you had a bucket list, visit some of the most amazing places in the world (Tick) go to Dublin to a tenement and shoot it up with a few how ya's (Tick)

Tsipras · 26-02-2016 11:23AM

I don't think it's any more addictive than alcohol.. both pretty addictive

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 26-02-2016 11:25AM

I used to be friends with a guy that used to take it. To look at him, never in a million years would you ever guess he was addicted to it. Now he wasn't when I knew him but beforehand. He told me it was the best feeling in the world, that the best times he had, the most fun he had, was while he was taking it.
But apparently the first time you take it is the best time, that it doesn't get any better or even the same the next few times to take it.

Another girl I know smoked it once at a house party, she passed out and was very sick. It wasn't a nice experience for her at all and she was terrified to ever touch it again.

Speedwell · 26-02-2016 11:25AM

You can always ask your doctor to give you morphine the next time you're in the hospital. No? Then you don't really want the feeling of being on heroin, you want the experience that you think goes with it.

Menas · 26-02-2016 11:25AM

Tsipras wrote: »

I don't think it's any more addictive than alcohol.. both pretty addictive

Eh....Heroin is a semi-synthetic opioid that reproduces the effects of opium, a substance derived from the opium poppy (Papaver somniferum). When you inject, snort, or smoke heroin, the specialized opioid receptors in the brain and nervous system respond by triggering a potent release of dopamine, a neurotransmitter that generates feelings of pleasure or euphoria. Once the brain gets used to the euphoric rush that heroin produces, the user can experience intense cravings for the drug.
How is that similar to alcohol?

26-02-2016 11:26AM

Well it's clearly addictive for many...but know people who say they've tried it and said they don't feel the need to try it again.

I think it all comes down to environment, if you're unhappy in some squat in a city and you try it, you will be stuck in that environment with the temptation to try it again. If you're in a good place in life and you try it for curiosity, you might be less likely to end up strung out and toothless.

Icaras · 26-02-2016 11:27AM

You wont know unless you try it. If you think the reward outweighs the risk the go for it but I don't know too many heroine users/addicts that are useful members of society. Come to think of it I don't know any users/acdicts that are happy.

Btw I don't know many heroine users/acdicts maybe between 5 and 10 people.

Speedwell · 26-02-2016 11:28AM

Menas wrote: »

Eh....Heroin is a semi-synthetic opioid that reproduces the effects of opium, a substance derived from the opium poppy (Papaver somniferum). When you inject, snort, or smoke heroin, the specialized opioid receptors in the brain and nervous system respond by triggering a potent release of dopamine, a neurotransmitter that generates feelings of pleasure or euphoria. Once the brain gets used to the euphoric rush that heroin produces, the user can experience intense cravings for the drug.
How is that similar to alcohol?

I just had a quick Google on the search term "alcohol and dopamine" (including the quotes). Turns out there is a lot of similarity.

Tilly · 26-02-2016 11:28AM

It's a disgusting dirty drug that i wouldn't even have on my radar to stick it on my bucket list.

R P McMurphy · 26-02-2016 11:30AM

Should read junk by wiliam burrows. Autobiographical account of how to take heroin without building up addiction ... He did end up a junkie though

I said · 26-02-2016 11:30AM

Why would you want to take something that has been cut with any amount of unknown mixers and has probably been swallowed and sh1t out by some drugs mule by the time you want to snort or inject it?

BoJack Horseman · 26-02-2016 11:31AM

6541 wrote: »

I wonder what it is like to take Heroin?

If you've ever been on morphine you will know that it feels f*cking great.

Flint Fredstone · 26-02-2016 11:33AM

"You see, the thing about heroin is, it's incredibly moreish" - Harry Hill.

Flint Fredstone · 26-02-2016 11:36AM

Tilly wrote: »

It's a disgusting dirty drug that i wouldn't even have on my radar to stick it on my bucket list.

It's not really if you're doing it on a one off, bucket list ticking exercise.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 26-02-2016 11:37AM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

It's not really if you're doing it on a one off, bucket list ticking exercise.

It's not a drug to **** around with. You won't win that battle

Tilly · 26-02-2016 11:40AM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

It's not really if you're doing it on a one off, bucket list ticking exercise.

Ok, let me know how you get on

not yet · 26-02-2016 11:41AM

6541 wrote: »

A mad bizarre though crossed my little middle class mind today. I wonder what it is like to take Heroin ? Could one take it and not get addicted, like if you had a bucket list, visit some of the most amazing places in the world (Tick) go to Dublin to a tenement and shoot it up with a few how ya's (Tick)

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Flint Fredstone · 26-02-2016 11:41AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

It's not a drug to **** around with. You won't win that battle

As I said, a bucket list ticking exercise. I never said anything about a battle.

Boom_Bap · 26-02-2016 11:44AM

Take a handful of rat poison. Mix with a bit of washing powder.
Take the dried powders and apply a layer of bleech then season with a bit of baking soda. Any other whitish looking powders lying around, chuck em in.
Put this in the microwave for about 3 hours to dry out.
Sprinkle in a bit of sh*tty bottom of the barrel heroin.

You really want to put this in your body?

charlietheminxx · 26-02-2016 11:46AM

Having lost a family member to it, I can tell you than even if I was going to die tomorrow, I still wouldn't want to try it today. It's a disgusting drug that ruins not just the lives of the user, but everyone around them.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 26-02-2016 11:48AM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

As I said, a bucket list ticking exercise. I never said anything about a battle.

Maybe it's just me but turning myself into a zombie even for a short time doesn't sound like a once in a life time opportunity. In fact, it sounds really really lame

PokeHerKing · 26-02-2016 11:53AM

I smoked a fair whack of opium in S.E Asia in my early twenties. Great buzz but always mixed with drink and weed. So rarely a solitary opium high.

Came home 6 months later and never even consider going into an inner city kip to pick up some heroin.

Still drink a lot and smoke weed occasionally. Go figure.

mynameis905 · 26-02-2016 12:00PM

Tilly wrote: »

It's a disgusting dirty drug that i wouldn't even have on my radar to stick it on my bucket list.

I hope you never find yourself suffering from severe pain or terminal cancer.

Calibos · 26-02-2016 12:01PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

If you've ever been on morphine you will know that it feels f*cking great.

Really? I'm assuming I've been on morphine after an operation under general anaesthetic. I just felt a bit dopey for a few hours afterwards. I also double dosed Nurofen+ and Solpedeine for 10 days straight for a wisdom tooth extraction dry socket and had zero withdrawals. I must not be very sensitive to opioids.

charlietheminxx · 26-02-2016 12:03PM

mynameis905 wrote: »

I hope you never find yourself suffering from severe pain or terminal cancer.

Being administered morphine in a medical capacity is not the same as smacking up on grotty heroin cut with feck knows what to get out of your skull.

mynameis905 · 26-02-2016 12:05PM

Calibos wrote: »

Really? I'm assuming I've been on morphine after an operation under general anaesthetic. I just felt a bit dopey for a few hours afterwards. I also double dosed Nurofen+ and Solpedeine for 10 days straight for a wisdom tooth extraction dry socket and had zero withdrawals. I must not be very sensitive to opioids.

I'm no anesthetist but I believe that it's mostly a combination of midazolam & fentanyl used to knock people out for operations. Certainly was in my case. Fentanyl is far more potent than heroin/morphine but strangely it doesn't produce the same euphoria. Neither does codeine for that matter.

mrcheez · 26-02-2016 12:06PM

Menas wrote: »

Once the brain gets used to the euphoric rush that heroin produces, the user can experience intense cravings for the drug.
How is that similar to alcohol?

You clearly haven't tried Glenmorangie Nectar D'Or

26-02-2016 12:07PM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

Having lost a family member to it, I can tell you than even if I was going to die tomorrow, I still wouldn't want to try it today. It's a disgusting drug that ruins not just the lives of the user, but everyone around them.

If you were dying of cancer. You would definitely take it for pain relief. Diamorphine/morphine is a fantastic drug for in healthcare.

Buona Fortuna · 26-02-2016 12:13PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I used to be friends with a guy that used to take it. To look at him, never in a million years would you ever guess he was addicted to it. Now he wasn't when I knew him but beforehand. He told me it was the best feeling in the world, that the best times he had, the most fun he had, was while he was taking it.
But apparently the first time you take it is the best time, that it doesn't get any better or even the same the next few times to take it.

That's what scares my middle class, middle aged, conservative ass. If it was that good, why wouldn't you do it again aside, from any addiction, I'd just want to do it again and again and ...

BTW - could you spare something for a cup of tea, not for me its the little dog

Flint Fredstone · 26-02-2016 12:15PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but turning myself into a zombie even for a short time doesn't sound like a once in a life time opportunity. In fact, it sounds really really lame

Do you think people go back for more because it's a horrible experience for them?

valoren · 26-02-2016 12:16PM

It's the first one that does the damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo

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