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Flightradar24 Thread Part III

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  • #422
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Why in the name of god are you allowed fly a turboprop in circles around Dublin city centre at 4am?


  • #423
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    More likely to be a calibration check of the ILS and or radar systems, and that sort of time is better from a "don't delay the scheduled services" aspect of things.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #424
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    More likely to be a calibration check of the ILS and or radar systems, and that sort of time is better from a "don't delay the scheduled services" aspect of things.

    Flying it over the city centre is really taking the pi*s though.

    Several cities where you likely wouldn't get away with this.


  • #425
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Flying it over the city centre is really taking the pi*s though.

    Several cities where you likely wouldn't get away with this.

    Above 1500 ft it is allowed.


  • #426
    arubex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    Duffer2010 wrote: »
    Anyone else here the Cessna Titan over Dublin just before 4am ?

    Titan G-BWLF is on contract to Blue Sky who use it for LIDAR and thermal-imaging mapping. It was operating over rural NI last week

    http://www.bluesky-world.com/#!bluesky-ireland/c1yf2


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  • #427
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Flying it over the city centre is really taking the pi*s though.

    Several cities where you likely wouldn't get away with this.

    Why is it taking the pi*ss?

    On a nightly basis the Garda helicopter transits the City of Dublin, at lower altitudes, with considerably more noise, often accompanied with their spotlight.

    Yet, I cannot recollect any critism of their flight operations.


  • #428
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Why is it taking the pi*ss?

    On a nightly basis the Garda helicopter transits the City of Dublin, at lower altitudes, with considerably more noise, often accompanied by considerable light emissions from their spotlight.

    Yet, I cannot recollect any critism of their flight operations.

    But they don't do hours worth of circuits around the city centre do they? And their job is necessary.


  • #429
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    But they don't do hours worth of circuits around the city centre do they? And their job is necessary.
    You still have really said why it's taking the p*ss?

    Over the years I have been regurarly woken up by the Garda helicopter during the course of a night's sleep. But to be very honest it causes very little to almost no irritation in our household. I have very seldom heard it as a source of annoyance in conversations with friends or colleagues. I've can honestly say that I have never been woken up by a survey flight.

    The ambient background noise is considerably more in a city like Dublin in comparasion to a rural area. So it is more likely that urban people have a higher tolerance to background noise.

    Perhaps a more scientific explanation could be that, "we Dubs don't whinge as much as you bleedin' Culchies"! :D


  • #430
    bronn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭bronn


    We were all woken by it. I woke at around 1:30am and thought it was the garda chopper at first. It just didn't didn't stop & got very annoying. I put in earphones wnd nodded off but at 3am it was much louder & practically overhead - everyone awake by then. You could hear the damn thing out as far as Celbridge when it would turn and come back. Louder, louder, very loud, moving away, moving away drone, drone, drone.... Idiot dog next door then decided that barking at it would help. Thankfully, the neighbours were awake too & brought muttley in from his shed. They've never done this so, every cloud, eh?

    Perhaps it was because the night was so clear & calm that the sound travelled so much. I've been woken by the chopper a few times - sometimes they're very low and on the odd occasion, the place is lit up with their spotlight. I don't mind & like to know they're there, keeping an eye out. But i was fairly p*ssed off last night. It was like an extra loud bluebottle that buzzed around for nearly four hours. Probably wouldn't have noticed or minded too much during the day.


  • #431
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,641 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Several cities where you likely wouldn't get away with this.
    Where?


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  • #432
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    It was the same last night at Heathrow their twitter was full of people asking about it.


  • #433
    martinsvi
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    Above 1500 ft it is allowed.

    with SERA now in place, it is now lowered to 1000ft

    speaking of the incident at hand, was anyone here actually disturbed by it? I found it hard to believe that a cessna flying at 4000ft can cause much racket. I rather prefer it doing at 4am in the morning than have my holiday plans ruined due to cancelled/delayed flights all because the maintenance couldn't be carried out at night

    It makes perfect sense - you also have some of the road works happening in Dublin city center during night hours as well to avoid traffic jams in the morning.. just get on with it.. no one forces you to live in the city


  • #434
    billie1b
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    martinsvi wrote: »
    with SERA now in place, it is now lowered to 1000ft

    speaking of the incident at hand, was anyone here actually disturbed by it? I found it hard to believe that a cessna flying at 4000ft can cause much racket. I rather prefer it doing at 4am in the morning than have my holiday plans ruined due to cancelled/delayed flights all because the maintenance couldn't be carried out at night

    It makes perfect sense - you also have some of the road works happening in Dublin city center during night hours as well to avoid traffic jams in the morning.. just get on with it.. no one forces you to live in the city

    I was up at 4am with the kid, not due to the noise of it, little dude is unwell, heard it fly over twice while I was awake, it was pretty loud to be honest but didn't bother me, the kid fell back to sleep within a few minutes as did I, didn't bother us at all.


  • #435
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    People will complain no matter what.

    Absolutely no problem with a plane like that at that height during the night. It'd be different if it was an F18 doing low-pass manoeuvres. I suggest that the reason why some people were awake was the dog next door and not actually the plane.


  • #436
    IngazZagni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    I'm surprised people are defending this activity so much. Do we actually know what the aircraft was doing? Looking at the pictures it wasn't near the airport and didn't fly the ils approaches for calibration tests so what was it doing? Unless Rwy 34 was in use I don't see how this aircraft would impact commercial traffic. I will also mention that this same aircraft was flying over a rural part of the Country recently and was loud enough to wake people and get fr24 screenshots. It was nowhere near an airport in this case so I see no reason for it to be operating at 4am. During nighttime everything will seem louder due to their being less ambient noise.

    The Garda chopper is different. Criminal activity and other stuff doesn't just take place during the day so it's necessary.


  • #437
    tricky D
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    The pattern in jimbis' pic doesn't match any of the patterns for calibration that I recall and looks very like a survey pattern. Bluesky recently did do a survey of heat loss from buildings at night for Shropshire Council so maybe it was up to something similar.


  • #438
    LiamaDelta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    IngazZagni wrote: »
    I'm surprised people are defending this activity so much. Do we actually know what the aircraft was doing? .

    As pointed out already it's on contract to a company that does LIDAR/Aerial Surveys/Thermal Imaging/High Resolution Imaging.... Hence the need to fly as it did last night.


  • #439
    bronn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭bronn


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    People will complain no matter what.

    Absolutely no problem with a plane like that at that height during the night. It'd be different if it was an F18 doing low-pass manoeuvres. I suggest that the reason why some people were awake was the dog next door and not actually the plane.
    You suggest wrong. It was going on for ages before Muttley kicked off. We were all awake and he only started when the plane was buzzing almost directly overhead and at that point, around 3:15am, he was taken inside.

    All I'm saying is it was loud and annoying to us and woke all four of us up. I don't care all that much - it was a few hours. It was annoying but we will survive and I knew what it was, or at least, thought I knew. I thought it was the ILS calibration crew.

    This was it at 02:50.
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    And again, about 04:40.
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  • #440
    jimbis
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    It was eerily calm and quiet Last night (before the plane) so this might have helped the sound travel.
    I live right beside the m50 and even that was quiet last night, usually it's just a 24hr drone of cars and trucks from it. Threat of ice must've been keeping people at home.


  • #441
    bronn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭bronn


    Reckon so. It was quite lovely out - everywhere was snow white with frost. Great view of the moon earlier too. Mech1 has some brilliant shots.


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  • #442
    JCX BXC
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    FR561 and FR4283 diverting to SNN from Dublin.


  • #443
    martinsvi
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    FR561 and FR4283 diverting to SNN from Dublin.

    any idea why?


  • #444
    Comhrá
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    FR561 and FR4283 diverting to SNN from Dublin.

    Fog? Doesn't seem like there would be for fog anywhwere today?
    I see some holding going on over Dub though.


  • #445
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Just read on PPRuNe that it was some sort of emergency on the runway, dont know the accuracy of that.


  • #446
    billie1b
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    Cityjet DUB-LCY WX124 had a rejected take-off, was stuck on RWY28 for a bit with fire services, there was a couple of go-arounds, diverts and now holdings


  • #447
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Both Ryanairs on the way back to DUB from SNN now.


  • #448
    sparrowcar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    As above. Loud bang from one of the engines and smoke witnessed. A/C towed off to the hangar now.


  • #449
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Both Ryanairs on the way back to DUB from SNN now.

    With passengers I presume? (hope!)


  • #450
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    People will complain no matter what.

    Absolutely no problem with a plane like that at that height during the night. It'd be different if it was an F18 doing low-pass manoeuvres. I suggest that the reason why some people were awake was the dog next door and not actually the plane.

    That would be awesome though!:D


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  • #451
    bronn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭bronn


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    That would be awesome though!:D
    Reminds me of Flight Fest. What views we had - I think they were using Bushy Park as a turning point. So right over the back garden you'd see the likes of this coming towards you;

    a3802013_zps339d411d.jpeg

    And closer again
    A380_zpsengueisd.jpeg

    Was totally cool. Wonder if they'll ever do something like that again?


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