Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

bangkok · 17-02-2016 10:57AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Here is the official squad flying out...

De Gea, Romero, Love, McNair, Smalling, Blind, Poole, Riley, Carrick, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Lingard, Pereira, Weir, Mata, Memphis, Martial, Keane.

As per the official website.

No CBJ either.

serious lack of talent in that squad, hard to imagine that van Gaal has spent 250m and that is our squad, minus a few

v3ttel · 17-02-2016 10:58AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Man United, taking the EL seriously with one senior striker, of 20 years old.

The one senior striker, of 20 years old, just happens to be our best attacking player by a country mile.

We have two strikers and one of them is very likely to be injured or ill if he hasn't traveled.

Mitch Connor · 17-02-2016 10:58AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

At his age, he would be on a one year rolling contract, I would imagine...

No. United don't do rolling contracts as far as I know - never seen one apart from Fergie.

The do 1 or 2 year contracts based on age but they aren't rolling.

He is out of contract at the end of the season, unless United sign him up to a new deal.

Mitch Connor · 17-02-2016 10:59AM

v3ttel wrote: »

The one senior striker, of 20 years old, just happens to be our best attacking player by a country mile.

We have two strikers and one of them is very likely to be injured or ill if he hasn't traveled.

Oh, we have two strikers? Good thing LVG has put together a squad to cope with injury and poor form.

bucketybuck · 17-02-2016 11:00AM

bangkok wrote: »

serious lack of talent in that squad, hard to imagine that van Gaal has spent 250m and that is our squad, minus a few

The defensive options are shocking really.

Mitch Connor · 17-02-2016 11:00AM

bangkok wrote: »

serious lack of talent in that squad, hard to imagine that van Gaal has spent 250m and that is our squad, minus a few

Its laughable, isn't it.

Rossi IRL · 17-02-2016 11:02AM

Rooney hasn't travelled for the game. I can see it being a very young team.

Keane, Riley, Poole, Love and Weir all travelled.

Edit: Bit late with this.

Rossi IRL · 17-02-2016 11:05AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Man United, taking the EL seriously with one senior striker, of 20 years old.

Dont forget the 23 year old Will Keane.

Id say it will be something like

Lingard/Mata - Pereira - Depay
Martial

jayo26 · 17-02-2016 11:05AM

If our first team minus one or two players can't beat them well there is no hope.

Cookie_Dough · 17-02-2016 11:07AM

jayo26 wrote: »

If our first team minus one or two players can't beat them well there is no hope.

Wouldn't surprise me though. full strength team got beaten by Sunderland last weekend.

Lord TSC · 17-02-2016 11:14AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

The defensive options are shocking really.

At least the defensive line is plagued with injuries. Our front line is only missing Rooney and Januzaj

Rossi IRL · 17-02-2016 11:15AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Our front line is only missing Rooney and Januzaj

and Welbeck:pac:

Lord TSC · 17-02-2016 11:23AM

Rossi IRL wrote: »

and Welbeck:pac:

DARK-KNIGHT · 17-02-2016 11:24AM

Hard to think van gaal has spent 250 odd million and the team looks absolutely ****e week in week out

He has a lot to answer for

Mitch Connor · 17-02-2016 11:30AM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Hard to think van gaal has spent 250 odd million and the team looks absolutely ****e week in week out

He has a lot to answer for

I'd prefer him to stay silent on it, after being sacked.

The state of the United squad is inexcusable given the money he has spent and the authority he has had.

Make no mistake, this is his United squad. This is the squad he wanted/created and his inability to get them playing football should have cost him his job 2 months ago.

Woodward, at this stage, has as much to answer for. LVG is his problem to fix and he just sits on his hands (while City appoint the best manager in football).

Mitch Connor · 17-02-2016 11:46AM

Also - would have much prefered to see Fosu-Mensah or Williams in the squad instead of Poole - both far better players. Roole was ran around vs City U21s last game (though playing DM). He is hardly ready for U21 football, never mind senior football. Williams and Fosu-Mensah are already putting in dominating performances at U21.

I think we are playing City at U18 level today and have U21 and U18 games on Saturday too - but if Poole can be taken out of those squads, why not Fosu-Mensah or Williams. Swapping Poole for either player would be better for United and for the players too, imo.

user2011 · 17-02-2016 11:48AM

Should of been gone after home game against PSV and definitely after the last group against Wolfsburg.

bangkok · 17-02-2016 12:01PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

The defensive options are shocking really.

attacking options are just as bad apart from Martial and the way we are playing him he will be burnt out soon enough.

DARK-KNIGHT · 17-02-2016 12:10PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd prefer him to stay silent on it, after being sacked.

The state of the United squad is inexcusable given the money he has spent and the authority he has had.

Make no mistake, this is his United squad. This is the squad he wanted/created and his inability to get them playing football should have cost him his job 2 months ago.

Woodward, at this stage, has as much to answer for. LVG is his problem to fix and he just sits on his hands (while City appoint the best manager in football).

agree with everything you said but im calling one thing here pep isnt the best in the world and he will be found out at city... i give him 18 months before he gets the sack there

brinty · 17-02-2016 12:13PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote:

agree with everything you said but im calling one thing here pep isnt the best in the world and he will be found out at city... i give him 18 months before he gets the sack there

Interesting call dark Knight
I think you could be right

beno619 · 17-02-2016 12:24PM

Its very difficult to find positive's in the Van Gael reign.

Besides the signing of Martial there really are very few tangible improvements.

Young players have not developed better than Moyes and certainly nowhere near as well as Fergie.

His "clear-out" has been a negative no matter what way people try to swing it.

So after 18 months what has he achieved ?

bangkok · 17-02-2016 12:26PM

beno619 wrote: »

Its very difficult to find positive's the Van Gael reign.

Besides the signing of Martial there really are very few tangible improvements.

Young players have not developed better than Moyes and certainly nowhere near as well as Fergie.

His "clear-out" has been a negative no matter what way people try to swing it.

So after 18 months what has he achieved ?

he planted trees at the training ground to help stop the wind blowing across the training pitches

Giggsy11 · 17-02-2016 12:30PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Also - would have much prefered to see Fosu-Mensah or Williams in the squad instead of Poole - both far better players. Roole was ran around vs City U21s last game (though playing DM). He is hardly ready for U21 football, never mind senior football. Williams and Fosu-Mensah are already putting in dominating performances at U21.

I think we are playing City at U18 level today and have U21 and U18 games on Saturday too - but if Poole can be taken out of those squads, why not Fosu-Mensah or Williams. Swapping Poole for either player would be better for United and for the players too, imo.

There is no hurry to promote. This is the first time Fosu Mensah and Williams played for U21 whereas Poole has already played league games at league 2 level. So maybe he is physically ready to handle top level games?

From what I read, Poole is a serious talent too and was one of the better players against City. He was waiting for clearance to play for ManUtd and at that time he was training with senior team.

Giggsy11 · 17-02-2016 12:34PM

For all the moaning about our academy, we are top of the U21 league with game in hand.

Also average age of the squad that played last game was just 18.6 years. That's as good as being eligible for U18 but playing against U21.

Our defence was Fosu Mensah, Williams, Poole, Riley. 3 out of 4 defenders are eligible for U18 team.

Only positive thing about this season is our youngsters getting so many chances. Media can go about the shiny new toys and grounds for youth players but if they don't get chances for first team then it's all just waste of money and time.

brinty · 17-02-2016 12:38PM

beno619 wrote:

Its very difficult to find positive's the Van Gael reign.

Daley has been a good signing
Mo will be too
Martial and Memphis young players who,'lol only improve
That's not bad

Giggsy11 · 17-02-2016 12:40PM

beno619 wrote: »

Its very difficult to find positive's in the Van Gael reign.

Besides the signing of Martial there really are very few tangible improvements.

Young players have not developed better than Moyes and certainly nowhere near as well as Fergie.

His "clear-out" has been a negative no matter what way people try to swing it.

So after 18 months what has he achieved ?

I want him gone too but that's stretching it a bit. There are few positives from his reign.

He did promote many young players, most recently CBJ who looked good enough to play at top level.

For me his trust of young players is big positive in his reign and apart from that can't think of any.

Lucas Hood · 17-02-2016 12:46PM

You cant call it trusting in youths if they're the only players he has available to him.

beno619 · 17-02-2016 12:49PM

brinty wrote: »

Daley has been a good signing
Mo will be too
Martial and Memphis young players who,'lol only improve
That's not bad

I dont disagree but the club has always looked to buy young players with potential.

Giggsy11 wrote: »

I want him gone too but that's stretching it a bit. There are few positives from his reign.

He did promote many young players, most recently CBJ who looked good enough to play at top level.

For me his trust of young players is big positive in his reign and apart from that can't think of any.

CBJ hadnt been earmarked or mentioned by LVG as an LB option ahead of the season beginning.

Much like Blackett & McNair last season he was thrown in because of injury/poor squad planning.

He hasn't shown Perriera, Adnan, Wilson or Verela much faith until he was forced to.

Flint Fredstone · 17-02-2016 12:50PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

You cant call it trusting in youths if they're the only players he has available to him.

I'd hazard a guess that Fergie would have put Carrick at CB and moved Blind out to the LB before starting CBJ.
They more than likely wouldn't have got game time without the injuries but he has shown a fair bit of trust in them too.

Rossi IRL · 17-02-2016 12:51PM

Are our u18s playing city now?.

Its on MUTV now but it dosnt say live in the TV guide but it does on the screen in the top right.

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