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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VII: The Fan-base Awakens

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  • #692
    former total
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Honestly, this move doesn't sit well with me. I hope it was Henshaw's decision himself. I don't like how many decent Connacht players have left to Leinster.

    Of course it was his decision


  • #693
    b.gud
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    mansize wrote: »
    To be fair, he is from Westmeath, Leinster

    Really? No one has ever mentioned that before :rolleyes:


  • #694
    Crimsonforce
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    What's peoples opinion on Healy not yet signed up and flirting his large hoop with Worcester?


  • #695
    sfbdqc
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    Crimsonforce wrote: »
    What's peoples opinion on Healy not yet signed up and flirting his large hoop with Worcester?

    i'd be surprised if he left.. wait and see how his return from injury goes.


  • #696
    Bazzo
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    mansize wrote: »
    To be fair, he is from Westmeath, Leinster

    I don't begrudge Henshaw going to Leinster, obviously I would have preferred he stayed, but I doubt loyalty to Leinster had much to do with it tbh. He's from the Westmeath half of Athlone but he would have come through the Connacht system all the way up. He could have grown up a couple minutes away from where he did and have no Leinster affiliation at all.

    In terms of rugby, he's very much a product of Connacht.


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  • #697
    sfbdqc
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    I don't begrudge Henshaw going to Leinster, obviously I would have preferred he stayed, but I doubt loyalty to the Leinster had much to do with it tbh. He's from the Westmeath half of Athlone but he would have come through the Connacht system all the way up. He could have grown up a couple minutes away from where he did and have no Leinster affiliation at all.

    In terms of rugby, he's very much a product of Connacht.

    in terms of where in Ireland he is from, it's very much leinster.


  • #698
    b.gud
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    mansize wrote: »
    To be fair, he is from Westmeath, Leinster
    Bazzo wrote: »
    I don't begrudge Henshaw going to Leinster, obviously I would have preferred he stayed, but I doubt loyalty to the Leinster had much to do with it tbh. He's from the Westmeath half of Athlone but he would have come through the Connacht system all the way up. He could have grown up a couple minutes away from where he did and have no Leinster affiliation at all.

    In terms of rugby, he's very much a product of Connacht.
    sfbdqc wrote: »
    in terms of where in Ireland he is from, it's very much leinster.

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  • #699
    Bazzo
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    b.gud wrote: »
    90ce3c7900a9b587c0215a86efa0cd87.gif

    I don't know why I bit... it's been so long... hopefully it just dies now.


  • #700
    Zzippy
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    LostArt wrote: »
    Delighted with that signing. Finally some adequate cover for Ringrose.


    Excuse me while I roll around laughing. Ringrose has played a handful of senior games in his first season, and finally a highly-rated international player has arrived to provide cover for him? I can only assume you had your tongue firmly in cheek when you posted that...


  • #701
    mansize
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    Lion King
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  • #702
    b.gud
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    I don't know why I bit... it's been so long... hopefully it just dies now.

    It happens, I kinda bit too with my previous post.


  • #703
    CatFromHue
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    I look forward to Henshaw becomming the next in a long line of country folk who move up to Dublin and end up with a like, totally D4 accent

    :D


  • #704
    [Deleted User]
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Excuse me while I roll around laughing. Ringrose has played a handful of senior games in his first season, and finally a highly-rated international player has arrived to provide cover for him? I can only assume you had your tongue firmly in cheek when you posted that...

    Whoooooooooosh


  • #705
    ClanofLams
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    aimee1 wrote: »
    EoS made a valid point about this on rte. Henshaw needs to play ERCC every season and leinster or munster is more likely to provide that then connacht are

    Yeah not having Heineken cup/champions cup has been a huge hindrance to grand slam winner, Lions winning no 8, world cup semi finalist Toby Falatau alright.


  • #706
    aimee1
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    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Yeah not having Heineken cup/champions cup has been a huge hindrance to grand slam winner, Lions winning no 8, world cup semi finalist Toby Falatau alright.

    did you read what I said? EOS offered an opinion that Henshaw might want to [and feel he needs to] play at the top European competition year on year and that leaving connacht offers him more chance of fulfilling that ambition.


  • #707
    ClanofLams
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    aimee1 wrote: »
    did you read what I said? EOS offered an opinion that Henshaw might want to [and feel he needs to] play at the top European competition year on year and that leaving connacht offers him more chance of fulfilling that ambition.

    I did. You said that Henshaw needs to play it every year, nothing about what he wants. I do my best to avoid listening to EOS so I have no clue whether he said Henshaw needs to play it or that henshaw might want to and think he needs to.


  • #708
    phog
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    By doing what though?

    Maybe they did do everything to keep him at Connacht. We don't know they didn't at least. TBF these days when foreign clubs are threatening to sign our top players you have tread delicately and not try to mess too much with players (a la Sexton in 2013). It's certainly a far cry from the days when the IRFU lowballed players (particularly at Munster) because they felt the player wouldn't leave.

    There's some non-rugby reasons too. Leinster is a far bigger market so there's more non-rugby revenue opportunities. Plus I read somewhere that his girlfriend lives in Dublin.

    I'd compare the loss of Henshaw from Connacht to something similar to what I thought losing Earls would be to Munster, local lad leaving. A hero of the fans young and old
    Will it make sponsors think again about getting involved in the province if the players are going to leave once they've made the cut.

    The IRFU had a tricky situation to deal with and I'd like to think they made the right decision for the player and the province. I'm not convinced they have.


  • #709
    aimee1
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    ClanofLams wrote: »
    I did. You said that Henshaw needs to play it every year, nothing about what he wants. I do my best to avoid listening to EOS so I have no clue whether he said Henshaw needs to play it or that henshaw might want to and think he needs to.

    apologies didnt make it clear in my post. But the main point EOS made was when they discussed the news on sunday about Henshaw leaving connacht was that its clear its the player wanting to go and they offered reasons why he might want to go. The obvious stuff was money but they also offered other reasons. What EOS put forward was perfectly reasonable and plausible



    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/connacht-left-no-stone-unturned-to-keep-robbie-henshaw-1.2536865

    Interesting comments from Lam about IRFU support for connacht.


  • #710
    DGRulz
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    Lads, it's been hours since the announcement, why am I yet to see a Borat gif?


  • #711
    Tox56
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    phog wrote: »

    The IRFU had a tricky situation to deal with and I'd like to think they made the right decision for the player and the province. I'm not convinced they have.

    What decision exactly is the IRFU making here? If Henshaw wants to leave, as seems to be the case, what you are saying is the IRFU should have offered him an ultimatum of Connacht or he leaves the country, and that would just be absolute madness on the IRFUs part. That's the only card they could realistically play and the only 'decision' they could realistically make in this situation


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  • #712
    aimee1
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    What decision exactly is the IRFU making here? If Henshaw wants to leave, as seems to be the case, what you are saying is the IRFU should have offered him an ultimatum of Connacht or he leaves the country, and that would just be absolute madness on the IRFUs part. That's the only card they could realistically play and the only 'decision' they could realistically make in this situation

    Yeah there would have been serious questions to answer if he ended up in France because he wasnt allowed move to leinster


  • #713
    thomond2006
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    phog wrote: »
    I'd compare the loss of Henshaw from Connacht to something similar to what I thought losing Earls would be to Munster, local lad leaving. A hero of the fans young and old
    Will it make sponsors think again about getting involved in the province if the players are going to leave once they've made the cut.

    The IRFU had a tricky situation to deal with and I'd like to think they made the right decision for the player and the province. I'm not convinced they have.

    What is the decision to make? It's Henshaw's decision, not the IRFU's. You haven't elaborated on what you think the IRFU could have done.


  • #714
    irishgrover
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    sure it's all done and dusted now...he's only 22, and he obviously wants new experiences and challenges - good luck to him and his new team.


  • #715
    jm08
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    irishgrover wrote: »
    sure it's all done and dusted now...he's only 22, and he obviously wants new experiences and challenges - good luck to him and his new team.

    I would have thought that turning Connacht into a top club would be a great challenge and legacy to leave to his home Province.

    In Leinster, he will be just another player.


  • #716
    former total
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    That is some grade A begrudgery.


  • #717
    Teferi
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    former total wrote: »
    That is some grade A begrudgery.

    There's a few lads in here that would be delighted if he were off to their province, instead they're in this thread talking nonsense.


  • #718
    Teferi
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    phog wrote: »
    The IRFU had a tricky situation to deal with and I'd like to think they made the right decision for the player and the province. I'm not convinced they have.

    So you believe that the IRFU can force a player to choose a province?


  • #719
    aimee1
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    Teferi wrote: »
    There's a few lads in here that would be delighted if he were off to their province, instead they're in this thread talking nonsense.

    even ROG on sunday was saying he hoped munster signed him.


  • #720
    jm08
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    aimee1 wrote: »
    even ROG on sunday was saying he hoped munster signed him.


    Well, his article on Keith Earls staying in Munster was:

    RONAN O'GARA: Keith Earls has priceless commodity: Loyalty


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  • #721
    Buer
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    The irony being his loyalty clearly had a price.


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