Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

Liam McPoyle · 15-02-2016 07:47AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Is there any genuine chance LVG will be sacked this week , or have people given up even hoping ?

Just sack him and let Giggs have a go on a temporary basis. It just couldn't be any worse.

I think it's most likely that he is in situ until CL is mathematically impossible.

One would have to think there is a get out clause for United if he fails to do this.

I'm not even that pissed off about Saturday.

When watching it I had an expectation that we would make a balls of it.

There really is no time for fckuing around anymore.

The Scouse will only get better with Klopp in charge, Chelsea will likely park a wheelbarrow full of cash between Alegri and Simeone, City have Pep, the Arse have the Arse, Poch is doing great things with Spurs, if we end up with Giggs in charge then I may well lose the will to live.

We gave the nice guy manager a go and it was a disaster.

We gave the bristly stubborn manager a go and its proven to be a disaster.

I couldn't give two shiny shytes what "baggage" Jose brings, i want him as our next manager.

He should have gotten it when Fergie left.

bucketybuck · 15-02-2016 08:06AM

Business Cat wrote: »

I think it's most likely that he is in situ until CL is mathematically impossible.

If thats actually true then you really would have to say that the board doesn't know anything about football. If I was in a car hurtling directly at a tree I wouldn't wait until I hit it before trying to swerve aside or hit the brakes.

Sitting on their hands in relation to Van Gaal has already cost us this season when many of us could see months ago that he was a busted flush, the absolute worst thing to do was wait and see, they needed to be proactive and make the change at a time when a new manager could easily have rescued the season. We did not need to wait until things were mathematically impossible.

The worst thing is that this isn't the first time, they dithered for far too long on Moyes as well. Beware those who don't learn from their mistakes.

Anyway, like many I'm not even that upset by the result, it isn't like we couldn't see it coming. This isn't some bolt from the blue, its the norm, its what we have been served up for the past 18 months.

Liam McPoyle · 15-02-2016 08:28AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

If thats actually true then you really would have to say that the board doesn't know anything about football. If I was in a car hurtling directly at a tree I wouldn't wait until I hit it before trying to swerve aside or hit the brakes.

Sitting on their hands in relation to Van Gaal has already cost us this season when many of us could see months ago that he was a busted flush, the absolute worst thing to do was wait and see, they needed to be proactive and make the change at a time when a new manager could easily have rescued the season. We did not need to wait until things were mathematically impossible.

The worst thing is that this isn't the first time, they dithered for far too long on Moyes as well. Beware those who don't learn from their mistakes.

Anyway, like many I'm not even that upset by the result, it isn't like we couldn't see it coming. This isn't some bolt from the blue, its the norm, its what we have been served up for the past 18 months.

I agree completely, he should have been shown the door in December.

What's worrying me is that the EL is still an avenue to the CL, its not beyond the realms of possibility that as long as we are in that then he will hold his job.

As has been said by others, he hadn't been sacked before Saturday so it was a moot result.

brinty · 15-02-2016 08:40AM

Lads think its obvious to a blind man LVG is gone at the end of this season no matter what.
Moyes was sacked once it wasn't possible we could qualify for the UCL. The same will happen with LVG. They didn't sack Moyes as it saved them a bit of money, same applies to Van Gaal. I'm sure all these supposed talks with Jose have been done about targets he wants so Ed can go out and get in the required signatures before the Euro's start.
Maybe I'm just deluding myself though!!

brinty · 15-02-2016 08:40AM

Lads think its obvious to a blind man LVG is gone at the end of this season no matter what.
Moyes was sacked once it wasn't possible we could qualify for the UCL. The same will happen with LVG. They didn't sack Moyes as it saved them a bit of money, same applies to Van Gaal. I'm sure all these supposed talks with Jose have been done about targets he wants so Ed can go out and get in the required signatures before the Euro's start.
Maybe I'm just deluding myself though!!

bucketybuck · 15-02-2016 08:45AM

brinty wrote: »

They didn't sack Moyes as it saved them a bit of money, same applies to Van Gaal.

The logic for that doesn't hold up, the club will lose more money by waiting until failure is official than they would have by sacking Van Gaal back in November and letting a new manager get the club into the CL.

Would the Van Gaal pay off have exceeded the revenue from qualifying for the CL? I doubt it.

adox · 15-02-2016 08:55AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well I said it two years ago and I guess I was right, lvg isn't the right man for United, smelling isn't the best defender in the universe and United have a lot of work to do to even get into the top 4, never mind winning it like most of you fans thought!

brinty · 15-02-2016 08:59AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

The logic for that doesn't hold up, the club will lose more money by waiting until failure is official than they would have by sacking Van Gaal back in November and letting a new manager get the club into the CL.

Would the Van Gaal pay off have exceeded the revenue from qualifying for the CL? I doubt it.

Fair point

Sometimes its short term pain (pay off LVG now) for longer term gain (Jose for a few months to properly plan for 2016/17, better quality players identified and signed, no loss of income from European competition, sponsorship, Adidas etc)

We fcuked up when Fergie left. The football guys (Fergie and Charlton) got it wrong when appointing Moyes. The "whoever knows how he got the job boys" got it wrong appointing LVG...

We're back to where we were 3 years ago and the name that should've replaced Ferhie, the man with the ego who could've replaced Fergie, they guy who could've brought in a couple of trophies in that 3 year period is still available and we're sitting on our hands...

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Canadel · 15-02-2016 09:01AM

Looking at the table the board should be more concerned with Europa League qualification than CL.

tossy · 15-02-2016 09:08AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well I said it two years ago and I guess I was right, lvg isn't the right man for United, smelling isn't the best defender in the universe and United have a lot of work to do to even get into the top 4, never mind winning it like most of you fans thought!

You also recently posted many times arguing in defence of Adam Johnson :rolleyes:

Lord TSC · 15-02-2016 09:22AM

Lads, seriously, why reply? No one reports, everyone gives attention he craves. Report and move on.

Anyway, Oranage2 is gone for 1 month now anyway so can't defend himself, so please let's move on

EDIT: Quick clarification; miscounted cards under the totting up, so it's not a ban, but the message still holds. Report and move on. Oranage2, as per the PM, I'm going to be keeping a close eye on your posts going forward, and this is a final warning.

bangkok · 15-02-2016 09:45AM

Pro. F wrote: »

I don't know why you think having 27 starts proves that Welbeck was first choice. Maybe you don't understand what "first choice" means, or maybe you don't understand what "27 starts" means.

are you arsene wenger? How do you know he is not first choice? When everyone is fit and available he will start in place of either Walcott, Ox or Campbell who have all played when welbeck was injured

bangkok · 15-02-2016 09:48AM

J. Marston wrote: »

He's not even top 3 anymore.

1. Messi.

2/3. Suarez/Neymar

in your opinion, but in the majority of opinions he is, only 2nd behind messi in the ballon dor 1 month ago.

30 games, 32 goals this season and currently the top scorer in the champions league would tell a different story

kippy · 15-02-2016 09:48AM

Well, it's February of LvG's second season and I just wonder how many people have now come to the conclusion that a "big name" manager is not always the solution. Especially a big name manager rolling into retirement.

Mitch Connor · 15-02-2016 09:50AM

Sigh.

United are a terrible football team and no one at the club seems all that bothered about it.

Mitch Connor · 15-02-2016 09:50AM

Sigh.

United are a terrible football team and no one at the club seems all that bothered about it.

Ashbourne hoop · 15-02-2016 09:53AM

It wasn't even a shock that Sunderland beat Utd, that's how bad Utd are. Goals conceded were shocking. Smalling is all over the place for the corner, DeGea wasn't great either. Martial is the only bright spot for Utd at the moment.

Trigger · 15-02-2016 09:54AM

bangkok wrote: »

are you arsene wenger? How do you know he is not first choice? When everyone is fit and available he will start in place of either Walcott, Ox or Campbell who have all played when welbeck was injured

are you arsene wenger? How do you know he is first choice? When everyone is fit and available will he start in place of either Walcott, Ox or Campbell who have all played well when welbeck was injured?

Chris_Bradley · 15-02-2016 10:04AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Sigh.

United are a terrible football team and no one at the club seems all that bothered about it.

That will only happen if CL aint confirmed for next season.

IamtheWalrus · 15-02-2016 10:07AM

kippy wrote: »

Well, it's February of LvG's second season and I just wonder how many people have now come to the conclusion that a "big name" manager is not always the solution. Especially a big name manager rolling into retirement.

The crux of the problem in my opinion.

jambofc · 15-02-2016 10:12AM

any news.....no he is still our manager

Maximus Alexander · 15-02-2016 10:13AM

kippy wrote: »

Well, it's February of LvG's second season and I just wonder how many people have now come to the conclusion that a "big name" manager is not always the solution. Especially a big name manager rolling into retirement.

Given how many people are pulling the stomachs off themselves over Mourinho, not many.

StringerBell · 15-02-2016 10:30AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Sigh.

United are a terrible football team and no one at the club seems all that bothered about it.

Good morning Mitch!!

ElChe32 · 15-02-2016 10:34AM

South Stand to be renamed Sir Bobby Charlton stand

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2016/Feb/South-Stand-at-Old-Trafford-renamed-Sir-Bobby-Charlton-Stand.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

bangkok · 15-02-2016 10:40AM

ElChe32 wrote: »

South Stand to be renamed Sir Bobby Charlton stand

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2016/Feb/South-Stand-at-Old-Trafford-renamed-Sir-Bobby-Charlton-Stand.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

great news. Bobby Charlton is such an iconic figure of Man Utd and no one else would be more deserving

bangkok · 15-02-2016 10:48AM

I see Debuchy has said that United did make a loan move for him in January but Wenger refused to let him join United. If he came this lad wouldn't have made his debut v Sunderland

Antibac · 15-02-2016 10:49AM

Fakman87 wrote: »

United rantcast is top notch. One of the best football podcasts IMO.

Thanks for that. Listening now. Is there any general football ones that are as good?

Lord TSC · 15-02-2016 11:00AM

Maybe we are bribing Bobby. "we will name a stand after you so you don't get so upset if we bring in Jose" :P

Antibac · 15-02-2016 11:03AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Maybe we are bribing Bobby. "we will name a stand after you so you don't get so upset if we bring in Jose" :P

Ha!Ha! At least I wasn't the only one that thought of that

Rossi IRL · 15-02-2016 11:17AM

Hey lads, any of ye travel regularly to home or away games fancy helping me with a college assignment. I havnt been able to travel over in a few years so could do with some fresh insight. PM me if ye have a few mins to spare. Thanks

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