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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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  • #4352
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    What was the wide count in the end? WP can be awful for wind. Up high and no shelter


  • #4353
    mountgomery burns
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    Wouldnt call that an awful game. Ye should have came to Thurles last night and I could've shown ye an awful game.

    Wides disappointing but a fine effort. Undoubtedly an undercooked Kilkenny side, but we were about ten points better. Gleeson was exceptional even withe wides.


  • #4354
    Deise_2012
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    18 wides is ridiculous, 3 different free takers...would wanna get that sorted out.
    But the backs were unbelievable, Darragh Fives my man of the match. Jamie Barron had a great second half, brick and Dillon worked hard...valuable 2 points


  • #4355
    cul beag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    As I thought. Comfortable win in the end and should have been alot more. Terrible game in a bog so hard to judge anything from it. Gleeson so good and so frustrating at times. He's still doing the same things wrong as 2 yrs ago which is an issue but his defensive side was good. Kilkenny looked like they've little hurling done but anytime you get a win against them is a good day. Dillon,Curran and Shan were poor I thought Thomas Ryan could have been introduced in the second half as he's a scoring forward,something we don't have on the bench.


  • #4356
    Clonmel1000
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    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    Wouldnt call that an awful game. Ye should have came to Thurles last night and I could've shown ye an awful game.

    Wides disappointing but a fine effort. Undoubtedly an undercooked Kilkenny side, but we were about ten points better. Gleeson was exceptional even withe wides.
    Is that because Tipp won by 14 points?


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  • #4357
    mountgomery burns
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Is that because Tipp won by 14 points?

    Yeah it was an awful one sided game with no intensity. Dublin were shocking.

    That was the consensus around the Tipp people I was with at that match too. Some outstanding score taking by numerous forwards on the Tipp team and remarked before today's game that it was something we could do with.

    If you're looking to be offended I'm sure you'll find good reason though all the same. Did you think it was a good game yourself??




    Just a remark on today again, as puke hurling has already been churned out. All of Waterfords forwards scored from play bar Brick. We had the only clear goal chance. And the pitch was absolutely atrocious.


  • #4358
    Clonmel1000
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    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    Yeah it was an awful one sided game with no intensity. Dublin were shocking.

    That was the consensus around the Tipp people I was with at that match too. Some outstanding score taking by numerous forwards on the Tipp team and remarked before today's game that it was something we could do with.

    If you're looking to be offended I'm sure you'll find good reason though all the same. Did you think it was a good game yourself??




    Just a remark on today again, as puke hurling has already been churned out. All of Waterfords forwards scored from play bar Brick. We had the only clear goal chance. And the pitch was absolutely atrocious.

    No I didn't think it was a good game but there was aspects of the performance I was pleased with. Tipp could only beat what's put in front of them. Either way I wouldn't be getting carried away but come championship time id be very confident we'd have Dublins measure again. Todays game was certainly no classic but having the worst co ground in Ireland lends itself to puke hurling even more so than normal.


  • #4359
    KevIRL
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    A win over KK never something to be sniffed at. Difficult to read much into it given the state of the pitch mind.

    14 scores, 18 wides and about another 5 or 6 shots dropped short show just how many scoring chances Waterford got, although to be fair, maybe as many as 10 were long distance 'hail mary' type efforts. 2 points in the bag, 2 more wins should ensure safety and a quarter final place.


  • #4360
    tomwaterford
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    Great win...as for the puke hurling...I did think both tried to make the best of it

    Waterford in particular seemed to be targeting the kk full back line with quick direct ball (with limited success) in the first half espially...if this amounts to puke hurling I dunno what people want


  • #4361
    cul beag
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    A win over KK never something to be sniffed at. Difficult to read much into it given the state of the pitch mind.

    14 scores, 18 wides and about another 5 or 6 shots dropped short show just how many scoring chances Waterford got, although to be fair, maybe as many as 10 were long distance 'hail mary' type efforts. 2 points in the bag, 2 more wins should ensure safety and a quarter final place.

    We will beat Cork next Saturday night and will beat Dublin also. It was very interesting to see how animated McGrath was during and after the game whereas Cody seemed as if it was a challenge game he stumbled upon on the way back from work!


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  • #4362
    Dick phelan
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    cul beag wrote: »
    We will beat Cork next Saturday night and will beat Dublin also. It was very interesting to see how animated McGrath was during and after the game whereas Cody seemed as if it was a challenge game he stumbled upon on the way back from work!

    Wouldn't be counting our chickens yet and saying we will beat, we should beat both Dublin and Cork if we play well but who knows if we keep getting a wide count like we did today. A great start for us imagine we will certainly be avoiding relegation anyway.


  • #4363
    mountgomery burns
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    No I didn't think it was a good game but there was aspects of the performance I was pleased with. Tipp could only beat what's put in front of them. Either way I wouldn't be getting carried away but come championship time id be very confident we'd have Dublins measure again. Todays game was certainly no classic but having the worst co ground in Ireland lends itself to puke hurling even more so than normal.

    Naturally, jason Forde in particular was outstanding.

    No but I dunno who these people expecting classics on the first game of the league in earlier February after two months of hard rain are.

    I don't theres a team in 1A that wont have the Dubs measure this year to be honest they look septic and it's no real surprise with the loss of Sutcliffe and the fact that Cunningham has failed to get two outstanding UCC teams out of theIr group in successive years suggests he is a poor manager.

    I agree its a deplorable ground, but having good county grounds doesn't win you matches. I doubt Semple Stadium is much consolation to you on days when Tipp are beaten.

    For intensity and an actual contest, the Waterford Kilkenny game was quite a bit ahead of the other two, that's not Tipps fault of course that Dublin were awful.


  • #4364
    letsseehere14
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    Good win for Waterford. I thought Kilkenny might have been better. One thing I noted was the amount of hail Mary shots from Waterford. With so few up front and more around the middle of the park it lends itself to more long range chances appearing. Would it worry people that come summer, these long range chances will still appear but remain low % and the lack of forwards leading to lack of goal chances will cost them again?
    I think in last year's munster final ye had a lot of long range chances too but ultimately fell well short? Just a thought.


  • #4365
    carter10
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    No I didn't think it was a good game but there was aspects of the performance I was pleased with. Tipp could only beat what's put in front of them. Either way I wouldn't be getting carried away but come championship time id be very confident we'd have Dublins measure again. Todays game was certainly no classic but having the worst co ground in Ireland lends itself to puke hurling even more so than normal.

    Spit out the lemons kid.


  • #4366
    Clonmel1000
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    carter10 wrote: »
    Spit out the lemons kid.

    Classic response...


  • #4367
    carter10
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Classic response...

    Id say ur an Og man bitter about Commercials success. Don't worry lad Clonmel will produce an inter county standard hurler..........eventually


  • #4368
    mountgomery burns
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    letsseehere14 wrote: »
    Good win for Waterford. I thought Kilkenny might have been better. One thing I noted was the amount of hail Mary shots from Waterford. With so few up front and more around the middle of the park it lends itself to more long range chances appearing. Would it worry people that come summer, these long range chances will still appear but remain low % and the lack of forwards leading to lack of goal chances will cost them again?
    I think in last year's munster final ye had a lot of long range chances too but ultimately fell well short? Just a thought.

    Think there was chances in the Tipp game that should have been taken. Same today but agree the 14/32 scoring chances statistic is false as plenty of the 18 wides werent real scoring chances.

    Wouldn't be judging any team on goal chances there today in fairness it wasnt conducive to it. Only 3 goals in 3 games this weekend so not like anyone was racking up a lot of chances.

    Ultimately, a strategy and utilizing possession in the middle third and creating a goal getting offense is the big development needed this year. But far too early to be making judgements on how that will materialize.

    Today was about getting the result and they did that well. Another win next week would give them scope to try a few things in the remaining games.


  • #4369
    Clonmel1000
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    carter10 wrote: »
    Id say ur an Og man bitter about Commercials success. Don't worry lad Clonmel will produce an inter county standard hurler..........eventually

    Ill do my best to sleep tonight despite all that worry...lad. Thanks for the amateur psychology lesson too.


  • #4370
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,608 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Best Valentine's Day ever for me and I'm single lol. Although kilkenny were not themselves a win against them is always great. Numbers 1-6 on our team are some there best defensive units in the country if we get a solid goal scorer an all Ireland is not too far away.

    Cork next Saturday will be tough and a must win game for them. I'd take a victory away to tipp over cork. Hopefully 2016 will be a year to remember


  • #4371
    tomwaterford
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Best Valentine's Day ever for me and I'm single lol. Although kilkenny were not themselves a win against them is always great. Numbers 1-6 on our team are some there best defensive units in the country if we get a solid goal scorer an all Ireland is not too far away.

    Cork next Saturday will be tough and a must win game for them. I'd take a victory away to tipp over cork. Hopefully 2016 will be a year to remember
    Afaik their playing tipp at home??
    (Could be wrong)

    Beat cork next sat night and be on a roll coming in to play tipp


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  • #4372
    Dick phelan
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Afaik their playing tipp at home??
    (Could be wrong)

    Beat cork next sat night and be on a roll coming in to play tipp

    No Cork and Tipp both away then Dublin and Galway at home to finish, hopefully we will be qualified for the QF and no worries about relegation before the Galway game


  • #4373
    tomwaterford
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    Dick phelan wrote: »
    No Cork and Tipp both away then Dublin and Galway at home to finish, hopefully we will be qualified for the QF and no worries about relegation before the Galway game

    I do apologise read the programme wrong today (just flicked through it)


  • #4374
    PTH2009
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Afaik their playing tipp at home??
    (Could be wrong)

    Beat cork next sat night and be on a roll coming in to play tipp

    No we're playing tipp in thurles on sun 6th March then Dublin and galway at home the weekends after that

    We will have a travel to play our quarter final or god forbid our relagation game( April 2/3) as we have 3 home games in the group phase


  • #4375
    Charlie69
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    Well done to Waterford today, easily the better team and deserved winners.
    Austin Gleeson is an absolute joy to watch btw.


  • #4376
    robopaddy2
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    Good win. As Kev said, its not to be sneezed when you beat the cats. Anytime you beat them theres always the few comments like; 'oh cody wasn't too bothered about it 'or they were only at half pace, or team holidays etc'. B*****cks to that anytime you beat them you earn it and are made to work damn hard and yesterday was no different so while no need to get carried away this was a big milestone for this youngteam. Underage level in recent years weve beaten KK at minor and colleges level and theres certainly no fear factor there which bodes well for the future.
    We were no way near our best either and still managed to grind out the win so that is promising in itself.


  • #4377
    JesusRef
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    Charlie69 wrote: »
    Well done to Waterford today, easily the better team and deserved winners.
    Austin Gleeson is an absolute joy to watch btw.

    he very athletic and unbelievable ability.

    but once again his decision making was called in to question, stupid pot shots and running into blind alleys, we have seen too much of this now, time for the penny to drop for the lad


  • #4378
    deiseach
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    I wonder will the penny ever drop with Austin. He's young, but he has a lot of miles on the clock. I'm worried he might never learn. Still, what he has can't be taught. Watching him gallop from 45 to 45 in the 60th minute like it was the 6th minute . . . a horse of a man.


  • #4379
    JesusRef
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    deiseach wrote: »
    I wonder will the penny ever drop with Austin. He's young, but he has a lot of miles on the clock. I'm worried he might never learn. Still, what he has can't be taught. Watching him gallop from 45 to 45 in the 60th minute like it was the 6th minute . . . a horse of a man.

    Pulling away fro no less a player than Cillian Buckley - on that ground as well - he has sensational ability.

    Can he learn - he must be after listening to it after every game last year and here we are after the first game this year and again Derek has to give him the same talk, either he doesnt listen or the stupid decisions is him returning to a default setting when under pressure.

    I worry because he got burned as a minor when we drew with limerick (eventually losing the replay) when he ran 70 yards and left a hole in the middle and limerick caught a goal... we lost the replay, if that wasnt lesson enough for him I would be concerned!


  • #4380
    mountgomery burns
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    A 20 yr old bullying the greatest physical specimens the sport has seen (albeit they were undercooked) for 70 minutes. Wayward shooting and some bad shot selection, but he was immense and to be honest I for one am delighted he is wearing a Waterford jersey. Long may he wear it.


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  • #4381
    tomwaterford
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    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    A 20 yr old bullying the greatest physical specimens the sport has seen (albeit they were undercooked) for 70 minutes. Wayward shooting and some bad shot selection, but he was immense and to be honest I for one am delighted he is wearing a Waterford jersey. Long may he wear it.


    Who here is good enough to tell him what to do??
    While it's hard/frustrating to watch (remember that minor final)...


    There is nothing worse than a person of less talent telling someone better than them what to do with the ball


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