Irelands call - can someone explain this to me?

Ol' Donie · 13-02-2016 04:35PM

RayM wrote: »

I've never understood why this kind of stuff bothers people. Apart from the last two lines, Amhrán na bhFiann is a dreary national anthem anyway.

I never understand it either.

I mean, it's an international rugby match. Ireland are in it. Everybody watching knows Ireland are in it. There is not one single person in the entire world watching the camera panning down the team of Irish players in Irish jerseys mumbling along to Ireland's Call thinking "I don't recognise this song. Who the hell are these guys?".

Biggest non issue ever.

Tigger · 13-02-2016 04:36PM

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Ireland is the Island; this Island, the team is from this island

Ol' Donie · 13-02-2016 04:37PM

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Ireland, Ireland damp sod of the earth
Lost on the surf of the north Atlantic
Ireland, Ireland, mounatins and mist
Vodka and chips, it’s so romantic
Joyce and Heaney, Beckett and Wilde.
Bill O’Herlihy, Dunphy and Giles
Evansm Hewson, Mullen and Clayton,
Westlife and Jedward, the pride of our nation!
Ireland, Ireland, once we were poor
Then we were wealthy, now we are poor again
Cows and horses, donkeys and sheep,
Munster and Leinster, Connacht and *****
Chinese, Polish, Africans too
Doing the jobs we don’t want to do
An Irish stew, a nation of nations
Working for peanuts in petrol stations
Ireland, Ireland you are the best
Place to thw west of Wales and Scotland
Sometimes it’s heaven, sometimes it’s hell
But I’d rather be Irish than anything else!

:D

That's fantastic.

OldMrBrennan83 · 13-02-2016 04:38PM

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The_Valeyard · 13-02-2016 04:40PM

Patww79 wrote: »

It's an island tournament? Are they playing the island of France today then?

Give global warming a few years

corner of hells · 13-02-2016 04:41PM

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You wouldn't know with those fencers from France .

Tigger · 13-02-2016 04:42PM

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i donno how it works but the team is from this island
its like the olympics the where team gb is 4 countries

Stealthfins · 13-02-2016 04:42PM

It's an easy enough song to learn for thick jocks or couture dolly bird's who put on D4 accents or posh country accents and usually wear deck shoes and polo shirts with collars pointed upwards.

These people are a breed on their own,although they're a bit scarce over the last few years,especially since daddy lost all his money on the stock markets.
As they usually can't remember the national anthem.

Dial Hard · 13-02-2016 04:42PM

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I see you somehow missed both History and Geography in school.

Tigger · 13-02-2016 04:43PM

Stealthfins wrote: »

It's an easy enough song to learn for thick jocks or couture dolly bird's who put on D4 accents or posh country accents and usually wear deck shoes and polo shirts with collars pointed upwards.

These people are a breed on their own,although they're a bit scarce over the last few years,especially since daddy lost all his money on the stock markets.
As they usually can't remember the national anthem.

daddy los his money in anglo or property not shares

OldMrBrennan83 · 13-02-2016 04:45PM

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Tigger · 13-02-2016 04:45PM

Dial Hard wrote: »

I see you somehow missed both History and Geography in school.

the official name is Ireland but the island is also named Ireland so its confusing
don't get me started on the british isles / these islands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_naming_dispute

kevinandrew · 13-02-2016 04:53PM

I've no problem with Ireland's Call, it's relatively catchy but it'll never be worthy enough to be a National Anthem so it's a little annoying that's the impression we give when it's the only one played at away games.

Amhrán na bhFiann can be a really nice anthem when played and sung properly, the fact so many can't be bothered to learn it is pretty sad to be honest, it really isn't that difficult.

corner of hells · 13-02-2016 04:54PM

1949 - Ireland Finally Becomes a Republic

Republic of Ireland Act 1948, which declared Ireland to be a republic.

Became law in 1949.

Dial Hard · 13-02-2016 04:57PM

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Actually I've done a degree in History but sure rule #1 of being offended is never to let facts get in the way of a good dose of outrage, so carry on.

Gatling · 13-02-2016 05:00PM

corner of hells wrote: »

1949 - Ireland Finally Becomes a Republic

Republic of Ireland Act 1948, which declared Ireland to be a republic.

Became law in 1949.

Euro 88 ireland became known as the rep of Ireland.

With the exception of football matches ireland is know as ireland.

Who knows what anthem was used in the first rugby world cup .

OldMrBrennan83 · 13-02-2016 05:03PM

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pauliebdub · 13-02-2016 05:04PM

I can understand and accept why it exists, but it's such a poor song. I cringe whenever I hear it and it compares very poorly against La Marseillaise.

Scrap it and get someone to write a stirring anthem for the team!

major bill · 13-02-2016 05:06PM

Karsini wrote: »

It used to be worse. Before 1995 they used the Rose of Tralee! No joke.

I actually thought that was a pisstake until I looked it up

Cringe!!

Dial Hard · 13-02-2016 05:26PM

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The Constitution and the Republic of Ireland Act of 1948 directly contradict eachother in terms of the official name of the State.

In terms of the actual topic at hand, any reasonable person would agree that Amhran na bhFiann is not the anthem of a 32-county Ireland and I honestly can't understand how anyone could claim offence at a song (crap as it is) that was commissioned to include those players who identify as Irish but not necessarily republican.

OldMrBrennan83 · 13-02-2016 05:34PM

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BBDBB · 13-02-2016 05:39PM

If the singing of Ireland's call is a problem then there's a very simple solution.
Due to tv demands for advertising around the world there is no need to switch the tv on until the scheduled kick off time. Referees only start the match when they get a signal from the touch line. Be more precise in the timing and you'll miss it virtually guaranteed every single time

My name is URL · 13-02-2016 05:40PM

pauliebdub wrote: »

I can understand and accept why it exists, but it's such a poor song. I cringe whenever I hear it and it compares very poorly against La Marseillaise.

Scrap it and get someone to write a stirring anthem for the team!

In fairness, most songs / anthems would sound pathetic when compared to La Marseillaise

KungPao · 13-02-2016 05:40PM

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I wouldn't worry too much...the wheels are coming off the Irish rugby bandwagon nowadays. Ireland have already peaked and have been found out.

Watch as the Heino sales fall and Carlsberg sales take off, as Euro 2016 approaches.

xper · 13-02-2016 08:04PM

Dial Hard wrote: »

The Constitution and the Republic of Ireland Act of 1948 directly contradict each other in terms of the official name of the State.

Actually, not quite...

Bunreacht na hÉireann/Constitution of Ireland:

AIRTEAGAL/ARTICLE 4
&#201;ire is [B]ainm[/B] don St&#225;t n&#243;, sa Sacs-Bh&#233;arla, Ireland. /
The [B]name[/B] of the State is &#201;ire, or, in the English language, Ireland.

The Republic of Ireland Act, 1948:

2.&#8212;It is hereby declared that the [B]description[/B] of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland.

The Act uses the word "description" specifically so that it is constitutional. The upshot is that "Ireland" and "Republic of Ireland" are each a formally and legally recognised term that can be used to refer to the state.

I am not adverse to the use of an inclusive anthem for representative teams in sports that are organised and run on a cross-border basis (which is the majority of them, soccer is a high-profile exception). However, I think "Ireland's Call" was a dreadful choice - dreary, banal, trite rubbish. An anthem, whoever it represents, should be inspirational, impressive, memorable.

RobertKK · 13-02-2016 08:09PM

One More Toy wrote: »

Why is our national anthem shunned in favour of this simplistic joke of a song that could have been written by a five year old?

It is written in the way it was so you can change the lyrics to:

Ireland, Ireland,
Together standing small
Shoulder to shoulder
We'll watch Ireland's fall.

It was originally written about the Irish economy. :P

endacl · 13-02-2016 08:14PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is written in the way it was so you can change the lyrics to:

Ireland, Ireland,
Together standing small
Shoulder to shoulder
We'll watch Ireland's fall.

It was originally written about the Irish economy. :P

Can the lyrics of any song not be changed?

sjb25 · 13-02-2016 08:18PM

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Irelands call - can someone explain this to me?

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