Irelands call - can someone explain this to me?

One More Toy

Why is our national anthem shunned in favour of this simplistic joke of a song that could have been written by a five year old?

strelok

because it's a team for the entire island of Ireland not just the republic.

major bill

One More Toy wrote: »

Why is our national anthem shunned in favour of this simplistic joke of a song that could have been written by a five year old?

The IRFU represents the whole island of Ireland, Rugby is played by both communities therefore the Republics anthem is only played in Dublin and Irelands Call when Ireland play outside the Republic.

A nothing issue

One More Toy

strelok wrote: »

because it's a team for the entire island of Ireland not just the republic.

I see.

Even so, could they not have come up with something more menacing

RayM

I've never understood why this kind of stuff bothers people. Apart from the last two lines, Amhrán na bhFiann is a dreary national anthem anyway.

RayM

RayM wrote: »

I've never understood why this kind of stuff bothers people. Apart from the last two lines, Amhrán na bhFiann is a dreary national anthem anyway.

It's just so...lame.

Why not a verse or 2 of Danny Boy or some other song if the anthem was unacceptable?

AgileMyth

If it was up to me they'd play Dearg Doom.

Mesrine65

Ireland, Ireland damp sod of the earth
Lost on the surf of the north Atlantic
Ireland, Ireland, mounatins and mist
Vodka and chips, it’s so romantic
Joyce and Heaney, Beckett and Wilde.
Bill O’Herlihy, Dunphy and Giles
Evansm Hewson, Mullen and Clayton,
Westlife and Jedward, the pride of our nation!
Ireland, Ireland, once we were poor
Then we were wealthy, now we are poor again
Cows and horses, donkeys and sheep,
Munster and Leinster, Connacht and *****
Chinese, Polish, Africans too
Doing the jobs we don’t want to do
An Irish stew, a nation of nations
Working for peanuts in petrol stations
Ireland, Ireland you are the best
Place to thw west of Wales and Scotland
Sometimes it’s heaven, sometimes it’s hell
But I’d rather be Irish than anything else!

masti123

I hate it, feels really gimmicky. Don't really feel any proper connection to it, Amhrán na bhFiann is way better.

masti123

strelok wrote: »

because it's a team for the entire island of Ireland not just the republic.

Funny thing is it's a song that was made to 'unite the Rep. of Ireland and NI players' but most of the NI players don't even sing it.

Day Lewin

Have you ever tried translating Amhrán na bhFiann into plain English?

-- it doesn't exactly endorse the peace process. Very much NOT.

Matt_Trakker

Oir-land, Oir-err-land

a pintsh of Heino and a Pino Neeno there as well chief

Heave! Heave!

Day Lewin

Have you ever tried translating Amhrán na bhFiann into plain English?

-- it doesn't exactly endorse the peace process. Very much NOT.

BoJack Horseman

"Hey Ireland
You're so fine.....
.....You're so fine
You blow my mind"

simple, inclusive.

tomwaterford

katemarch wrote: »

Have you ever tried translating Amhrán na bhFiann into plain English?

-- it doesn't exactly endorse the peace process. Very much NOT.

Or rhyme as well

Hammer89

strelok wrote: »

because it's a team for the entire island of Ireland not just the republic.

The "four proud provinces" bit should've been the giveaway.

corner of hells

katemarch wrote: »

Have you ever tried translating Amhrán na bhFiann into plain English?

-- it doesn't exactly endorse the peace process. Very much NOT.

How bout that other cheerful ditty ? "come out ye black and tans " , would that do ?

OldMrBrennan83

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Tigger

katemarch wrote: »

Have you ever tried translating Amhrán na bhFiann into plain English?

-- it doesn't exactly endorse the peace process. Very much NOT.

soldiers song is in english anb is the translation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhr%C3%A1n_na_bhFiann

BoJack Horseman

Patww79 wrote: »

It's offensive and this current rugby fad is worryingly making it acceptable.

Let's hope the fledgling GAA don't adopt it.

It used to be worse. Before 1995 they used the Rose of Tralee! No joke.

corner of hells

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"Drops monocle"

Tigger

revisionism annoys me, is there any copy of the 1916 proclamation in Irish?

eigil translated it recently but i mean was there one in 1916

The_Valeyard

Tigger wrote: »

soldiers song is in english anb is the translation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhr%C3%A1n_na_bhFiann

Unless I am mistaken, I believe it was originally sang in English before changing to Irish.

Dyr

I amazed they didn't find space for product placement in the lyrics. That song is so corporate it probably has it's own mission statement and environmental commitment.

Such is rugby I guess

major bill

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What's offensive? Irelands call or not playing the Republics anthem abroad?? I'd much rather be accomadating to others that may not share our beliefs and have a 32 county rugby team, than follow suit of the Northern Irish Fa and alienate the other side by playing a song that doesn't cater to Nationalists beliefs

If it were up to me I wouldnt play any anthems, its a sport end of.

Tigger

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Unless I am mistaken, I believe it was originally sang in English before changing to Irish.

thats what i said

OldMrBrennan83

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Dial Hard

Patww79 wrote:

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Flower of Scotland isn't Scotland's national anthem either. Better go get offended by that too.

The_Valeyard

Tigger wrote: »

thats what i said

I know

Dial Hard

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Amhran na bhFiann is the anthem of the Republic of Ireland.

There is no Republic of Ireland rugby team.

I have no idea why you have your knickers in such a twist over this.

Ol' Donie

RayM wrote: »

I've never understood why this kind of stuff bothers people. Apart from the last two lines, Amhrán na bhFiann is a dreary national anthem anyway.

I never understand it either.

I mean, it's an international rugby match. Ireland are in it. Everybody watching knows Ireland are in it. There is not one single person in the entire world watching the camera panning down the team of Irish players in Irish jerseys mumbling along to Ireland's Call thinking "I don't recognise this song. Who the hell are these guys?".

Biggest non issue ever.

Tigger

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Ireland is the Island; this Island, the team is from this island

Ol' Donie

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Ireland, Ireland damp sod of the earth
Lost on the surf of the north Atlantic
Ireland, Ireland, mounatins and mist
Vodka and chips, it’s so romantic
Joyce and Heaney, Beckett and Wilde.
Bill O’Herlihy, Dunphy and Giles
Evansm Hewson, Mullen and Clayton,
Westlife and Jedward, the pride of our nation!
Ireland, Ireland, once we were poor
Then we were wealthy, now we are poor again
Cows and horses, donkeys and sheep,
Munster and Leinster, Connacht and *****
Chinese, Polish, Africans too
Doing the jobs we don’t want to do
An Irish stew, a nation of nations
Working for peanuts in petrol stations
Ireland, Ireland you are the best
Place to thw west of Wales and Scotland
Sometimes it’s heaven, sometimes it’s hell
But I’d rather be Irish than anything else!

:D

That's fantastic.

OldMrBrennan83

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The_Valeyard

Patww79 wrote: »

It's an island tournament? Are they playing the island of France today then?

Give global warming a few years

corner of hells

Patww79 wrote: »

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You wouldn't know with those fencers from France .

Tigger

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i donno how it works but the team is from this island
its like the olympics the where team gb is 4 countries

Stealthfins

It's an easy enough song to learn for thick jocks or couture dolly bird's who put on D4 accents or posh country accents and usually wear deck shoes and polo shirts with collars pointed upwards.

These people are a breed on their own,although they're a bit scarce over the last few years,especially since daddy lost all his money on the stock markets.
As they usually can't remember the national anthem.

Dial Hard

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I see you somehow missed both History and Geography in school.

Tigger

Stealthfins wrote: »

It's an easy enough song to learn for thick jocks or couture dolly bird's who put on D4 accents or posh country accents and usually wear deck shoes and polo shirts with collars pointed upwards.

These people are a breed on their own,although they're a bit scarce over the last few years,especially since daddy lost all his money on the stock markets.
As they usually can't remember the national anthem.

daddy los his money in anglo or property not shares

OldMrBrennan83

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Tigger

Dial Hard wrote: »

I see you somehow missed both History and Geography in school.

the official name is Ireland but the island is also named Ireland so its confusing
don't get me started on the british isles / these islands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_naming_dispute

kevinandrew

I've no problem with Ireland's Call, it's relatively catchy but it'll never be worthy enough to be a National Anthem so it's a little annoying that's the impression we give when it's the only one played at away games.

Amhrán na bhFiann can be a really nice anthem when played and sung properly, the fact so many can't be bothered to learn it is pretty sad to be honest, it really isn't that difficult.

corner of hells

1949 - Ireland Finally Becomes a Republic

Republic of Ireland Act 1948, which declared Ireland to be a republic.


Became law in 1949.

Dial Hard

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Actually I've done a degree in History but sure rule #1 of being offended is never to let facts get in the way of a good dose of outrage, so carry on.

Gatling

corner of hells wrote: »

1949 - Ireland Finally Becomes a Republic

Republic of Ireland Act 1948, which declared Ireland to be a republic.


Became law in 1949.

Euro 88 ireland became known as the rep of Ireland.

With the exception of football matches ireland is know as ireland.


Who knows what anthem was used in the first rugby world cup .

OldMrBrennan83

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pauliebdub

I can understand and accept why it exists, but it's such a poor song. I cringe whenever I hear it and it compares very poorly against La Marseillaise.

Scrap it and get someone to write a stirring anthem for the team!