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Dawggone · 11-02-2016 04:06PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Absolutely agree 100%

Totally disagree.
This is informative and objective.
Best thread on the forum!

There are tillage fora in French that would really depress...:(

Edit. The op that opened the thread (DeLaval) was a regular contributor. Worth a read back a couple of years back when he averaged 47cpl for the year.

:)

freedominacup · 11-02-2016 04:28PM

quader wrote: »

:eek:told today by a rep that dairygold are droping the price by 2 cent anyone else here this :eek:

There was only one answer for that cnut and that was that you had heard the farmer shareholders were gunning for the wage bill and that they didn't care how the 30% cut was achieved. It's immaterial whether they go for straight wage cuts or redundancies. Watch the grin turn into a rictus.

frazzledhome · 11-02-2016 04:45PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Totally disagree.
This is informative and objective.
Best thread on the forum!

There are tillage fora in French that would really depress...:(

Edit. The op that opened the thread (DeLaval) was a regular contributor. Worth a read back a couple of years back when he averaged 47cpl for the year. :)

It's the guessing and "informed opinion" gets me.

I heard he got 36c in 2015 and that's with runts of cows, no roofs and above all cows eating grass. Added to that is 5c in stock sales including "valueless" calves

He also knows the grass isn't free but does know how much it costs

mahoney_j · 11-02-2016 04:49PM

quader wrote: »

:eek:told today by a rep that dairygold are droping the price by 2 cent anyone else here this :eek:

I heard 3 and 2 more next month .....

kevthegaff · 11-02-2016 05:14PM

Imagine the shock if we didn't know what we gee gona get when opening our milk statement...its important also to discuss the Co ops and how they're operating/extorting lol. The best thread on boards imo courtesy of delaval!

kevthegaff · 11-02-2016 05:16PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

I heard 3 and 2 more next month .....

That's my ideas of a new skidsteer down the toilet ;-(

kowtow · 11-02-2016 05:30PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

It's the guessing and "informed opinion" gets me.

I heard he got 36c in 2015 and that's with runts of cows, no roofs and above all cows eating grass. Added to that is 5c in stock sales including "valueless" calves

He also knows the grass isn't free but does know how much it costs

The Man deserves a cigar. A biggish one.

mahoney_j · 11-02-2016 05:34PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

That's my ideas of a new skidsteer down the toilet ;-(

That was tongue in cheek comment Kev !!

Farmer Ed · 11-02-2016 05:45PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

That's my ideas of a new skidsteer down the toilet ;-(

Cheer up At least your not supplying Dg. I would hope that some of the other processors wont find themselves under so much pressure. I just hope they won't use it as an excuse to drop the price also . There has been a history of the big boys leading the way.

darragh_haven · 11-02-2016 07:51PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

It's the guessing and "informed opinion" gets me.

I heard he got 36c in 2015 and that's with runts of cows, no roofs and above all cows eating grass. Added to that is 5c in stock sales including "valueless" calves

He also knows the grass isn't free but does know how much it costs

Ah shur don't mind that fella, he doesn't need any tanker to spread ****e

Dawggone · 11-02-2016 08:39PM

kowtow wrote: »

The Man deserves a cigar. A biggish one.

And a large glass of 50yr old Château de Montifaud cognac...

Dawggone · 11-02-2016 08:44PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

I heard he got 36c in 2015 and that's with runts of cows, no roofs and above all cows eating grass. Added to that is 5c in stock sales including "valueless" calves

He also knows the grass isn't free but does know how much it costs

Conjecture (?) or do you know him?

I do hope he can repeat or even better those returns for '16.

mf240 · 11-02-2016 09:13PM

quader wrote: »

:eek:told today by a rep that dairygold are droping the price by 2 cent anyone else here this :eek:

Dawggone · 11-02-2016 09:26PM

mf240 wrote: »

Class!

This from the man that gave us the excellent quotes...
"Diet feeder...me hole!" etc etc

Brilliant!

mahoney_j · 12-02-2016 01:48PM

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/dutch-farmers-paid-e14m-limiting-milk-supply/

frazzledhome · 12-02-2016 04:41PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/dutch-farmers-paid-e14m-limiting-milk-supply/

That's the shot, hope they keep it up

whelan2 · 12-02-2016 04:47PM

Any word on lakelands januay price

freedominacup · 12-02-2016 04:49PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Any word on lakelands januay price

Is there something you're not telling us????ðŸ˜‰

whelan2 · 12-02-2016 04:51PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Is there something you're not telling us????ðŸ˜‰

wishful thinking, no they normally get paid on 15th-a full 3 days before us- so was wondering was their price set yet

C0N0R · 12-02-2016 06:57PM

whelan2 wrote: »

wishful thinking, no they normally get paid on 15th-a full 3 days before us- so was wondering was their price set yet

Ten days before me!

einn32 · 13-02-2016 02:10AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

In 1973, when we joined the EEC, there were some 145,000 dairy farmers in Ireland.

In 2016, there are some 17,500 dairy farmers, iirc.

Off farm employment is hugely attractive in terms of wages and hours worked so there will nearly always be a stronger pull off farm than on farm.

But is this not a trend seen for years now? Less dairy farms in USA and EU? I think only NZ has seen a slower rate of the number of dairy farms declining.

pedigree 6 · 13-02-2016 10:15AM

Just listened to kevin lane CEO of Ornua on countrywide talking about the success and uniqueness of Kerrygold butter worldwide.
He was at pains to show how our milk that goes into it is different and comes from small to medium sized farms and it's the grass that gives it it's unique flavour.

Then Damien asked him about milk price being paid to dairy farmers this year and Kevin lobbed us into the world price that every other dairy farmer around the world is getting. So unique product but average price. Rant over.:o

WheatenBriar · 13-02-2016 10:24AM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Just listened to kevin lane CEO of Ornua on countrywide talking about the success and uniqueness of Kerrygold butter worldwide.
He was at pains to show how our milk that goes into it is different and comes from small to medium sized farms and it's the grass that gives it it's unique flavour.

Then Damien asked him about milk price being paid to dairy farmers this year and Kevin lobbed us into the world price that every other dairy farmer around the world is getting. So unique product but average price. Rant over.:o

Aye, you were afraid to mention the figure he had,I see

24c with good constituents
A 4 to 6c drop in base price this year,so a base price in the range 18 to 20c a litre inc vat

I can see lads paying €300+ an acre for land at that price...

whelan2 · 13-02-2016 10:35AM

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Aye, you were afraid to mention the figure he had,I see

24c with good constituents
A 4 to 6c drop in base price this year,so a base price in the range 18 to 20c a litre inc vat

I can see lads paying €300+ an acre for land at that price...

is that the Glanbia price or the country average? Will adapt a wait and see approach here

WheatenBriar · 13-02-2016 11:22AM

whelan2 wrote: »

is that the Glanbia price or the country average? Will adapt a wait and see approach here

Country average
Giil are usually 2c below that :eek: a leading price...

jaymla627 · 13-02-2016 01:16PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Just listened to kevin lane CEO of Ornua on countrywide talking about the success and uniqueness of Kerrygold butter worldwide.
He was at pains to show how our milk that goes into it is different and comes from small to medium sized farms and it's the grass that gives it it's unique flavour.

Then Damien asked him about milk price being paid to dairy farmers this year and Kevin lobbed us into the world price that every other dairy farmer around the world is getting. So unique product but average price. Rant over.:o

Ornua and all the processors really have dairy farmers by the balls so to speak going into this year and next simpley because dairying is a 3 year cycle when you take into account expanding and bringing through in calf heifers and maidens....
Everyone expanding already has their 2016 heifers calving down and their maidens ready to go to the bull this spring along with the future batch of calves for 2018, along with in most cases the sheds/parlours in place to cater for the extra numbers, if prices remain on the floor going through 2016/2017 we are all still going to pump out milk cause the cows are their and been ultimate optimists will try and stick in hoping for better times......
It will be 2019 before a serious drop off could occur in milk production here and ultimately worldwide assuming prices are still crap as lads wise up,cut back numbers cull cows drastically and get off the heifer rearing train
So basically glanbia and Co can play the short game for the next 3 years and be guaranteed lots of milk and extra production and then maybe worry about losing suppliers facing reduced supplies but their on the pigs back at the minute and hold all the cards

Deepsouthwest · 13-02-2016 01:44PM

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Aye, you were afraid to mention the figure he had,I see

24c with good constituents
A 4 to 6c drop in base price this year,so a base price in the range 18 to 20c a litre inc vat

I can see lads paying €300+ an acre for land at that price...

Did he really predict a base of 18/20c for nxt yr? That's a v scary prediction

WheatenBriar · 13-02-2016 02:22PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Did he really predict a base of 18/20c for nxt yr? That's a v scary prediction

He worded it roughly thus
30c average with good solids 2015
I suppose we're looking at 24c in 2016

So yeah 6c off base.

pedigree 6 · 13-02-2016 03:09PM

WheatenBriar wrote: »

He worded it roughly thus
30c average with good solids 2015
I suppose we're looking at 24c in 2016

So yeah 6c off base.

I had to listen to it again. Yea average 24c that's 22c to 27c.
I can sense this year is going to be a year of protests.

Here's the interview.
http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=b9%5F20934007%5F1523%5F13%2D02%2D2016%5F

Hope he's wrong....

Farmer Ed · 13-02-2016 04:08PM

He still had money available to go investing in Chinese processing. You would have imagined if returns were tight, every cent needs to be got back by the farmer. You'd wonder are these guys in touch with what's happening on the ground? will Kevin be taking a pay cut this year?

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