Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

RE Why this might bother Adams.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/news/taoiseach-calls-on-gerry-adams-to-clarify-if-regency-attack-weapons-are-similar-to-those-of-ira-34433501.html

all that succeeds in doing is making the taoiseach sound like an eejit. Unless it has "Property of the IRA" stamped on it how can gerry possibly answer that question?

Gamebred wrote: »

Pathetic from the leader of our country smearing Adams,its the default response to Sinn Fein by the government just wheel out the ira and sabotage any policy discussion SF are trying to debate,

If Gerry Adams can't handle that, it's time to leave politics. It's what political parties do, take pot shots at each other. This was a particularly weak one that anyone with an ounce of intelligence could easily deflect

Saint Sonner wrote: »

Sorry haven't time to go through whole thread. Where did the pictures come from?

Pre and post shooting - ballsy to be taking photos off the killers?

Tune in to Liveline. All the journos being interrogated by Joe as we speak.

Saint Sonner wrote: »

Sorry haven't time to go through whole thread. Where did the pictures come from?

Pre and post shooting - ballsy to be taking photos off the killers?

the post shooting shots of the killers leaving were taken by a sunday world tog who was there to cover the weigh-in.

Ah I'd give them some credit on this. The CIRA have the motive, they're in the correct location, and the hardware and tactics kind of fit. Seems plausible to me.

Just a bit of history to explain what we are dealing with here:

The Irish Volunteers were created in 1913 in reaction to creation of the Ulster Volunteer Force but split in 1914 with the National Volunteers mostly joining the British Army to fight in World War I while the smaller faction still calling themselves the Irish Volunteers refused. A faction of the Irish Volunteers led by Patrick Pearse took part in the 1916 Rising alongside the Irish Citizen Army led by James Connolly.

In 1917 the Irish Volunteers became the Irish Republican Army and it fought the War of Independence from 1919 to 1921 before it split over the Anglo-Irish Treaty. The Pro-Treaty IRA became the National Army which is today called the Irish Defence Forces.

The Anti-Treaty IRA later simply called itself the IRA after their defeat in the Irish Civil War in 1923.
Eamon De Valera and his followers created Fianna Fáil in 1926 and abandoned Sinn Féin and the IRA before he was elected Taoiseach in 1932.

The IRA refused to recognize either Northern Ireland or the Irish Free State which later became the Republic of Ireland in 1949.

In 1930s the Republican Congress was made up of Communists who left the IRA and formed their own political group while the IRA was pro-German during WW2 and hoped that if Hitler won he would give Ireland unity.

In the 1950s Saor Uladh broke away and launched its own armed campaign along the border with Northern Ireland but later returned to the IRA when the Border Campaign began in the later 1950s before it ended in the early 1960s.

Saor Eire broke away from the IRA in 1967 led by a group of radical socialists and remained active until 1975.

The IRA split in 1969 with the Provisional IRA led by young Northern Irish leaders breaking away from the older Dublin led Official IRA leadership.

The Official IRA known as the Stickies remained active until 1972 when it declared a ceasefire. They rejected the hard line Catholic Nationalism of the Provisionals or "Provos" and adopted a Revolutionary Marxist ideology with its political wing calling itself Official Sinn Féin. The Stickies and the Provos regularly killed one another. They eventually became the Workers Party with Pat Rabitte and Eamon Gilmore becoming leading members and then Democratic Left. After the end of the Soviet Union and the Cold War eventually its members became supporters of the Labour Party when they moved away from paramilitarism and abandoned the extreme Left. Rabbitte and Gilmore both became leaders of the Labour Party.

The INLA broke away from the Official IRA in 1974 and fought for a supposed Marxist Revolution but were more interested in shooting each other and fighting the IRA than attacking the British. It eventually simply became a criminal organization involved in robbery and drug dealing before being wound up. Their political wing the IRSP lost many key leaders who were assassinated or left and today the party contests elections but polls poorly and takes part in protests like the anti-water protests and the like.

The Provisional IRA was the armed wing of the Provisional Sinn Féin party and the main opponent of the British during the Troubles.
Since the 1994 ceasefire and the official end of the Troubles in 1998 and 2005 when it officially disarmed it is no longer involved in an armed struggle but ex-provos are now heavily involved in legitimate business activity and organized crime especially the illegal fuel industry and smuggled cigarettes. The provos are now just another Mafia but maintain close ties with Gerry Adams and Sinn Féin.

The Continuity IRA broke away from the Provos in 1986 and had a political wing calling itself Republican Sinn Féin. Like the IRSP the RSF has only a tiny level of support however they do have one elected representative Councillor Tomás Ó Curraoin in Connemara.
The Continuity IRA split into the Óglaigh na hÉireann and Saoirse na hÉireann in recent years. Ursula Shannon, a Phd student from Trinity College was sentenced to several years in prison for involvement in an operation to steal weapons from a gun dealer in Offaly and in prison with Rose Lynch who shot an innocent man she was led to believe was involved in the shooting of CIRA member Liam Kenny.

The "Real" IRA split from the Provisional IRA in 1997 and were responsible for the Omagh bomb. Most of its key leaders are in jail and although it has been involved in attacks on police and soldiers and has been involved other bomb attacks it seems to be now primarily involved in criminality and is at war with the organized criminal gangs who refuse to bow down to them. Alan Ryan was killed because he was trying to extort drug dealers associated with mob boss Christy Kinahan's organization.

FalconGirl wrote: »

Jesus, this couldn't have come at a better time for FG. Pathetic to see Kenny using it straight away for political gain. FG spin doctors are snakey as fook.

... but the statement was made to the BBC? Also was the CIRA going to beat Fine Gael in the election or something??

Am I right in thinking that the father of the Kavanagh boxer who was at the weigh in is alleged to have been murdered by the very Kinahan gang Mr Kavanagh jr was in attendance at the hotel with?

josephryan1989 wrote: »

Just a bit of history to explain what we are dealing with here:

The Irish Volunteers were created in 1913 in reaction to creation of the Ulster Volunteer Force but split in 1914 with the National Volunteers mostly joining the British Army to fight in World War I while the smaller faction still calling themselves the Irish Volunteers refused. A faction of the Irish Volunteers led by Patrick Pearse took part in the 1916 Rising alongside the Irish Citizen Army led by James Connolly.

In 1917 the Irish Volunteers became the Irish Republican Army and it fought the War of Independence from 1919 to 1921 before it split over the Anglo-Irish Treaty. The Pro-Treaty IRA became the National Army which is today called the Irish Defence Forces.

The Anti-Treaty IRA later simply called itself the IRA after their defeat in the Irish Civil War in 1923.
Eamon De Valera and his followers created Fianna Fáil in 1926 and abandoned Sinn Féin and the IRA before he was elected Taoiseach in 1932.

The IRA refused to recognize either Northern Ireland or the Irish Free State which later became the Republic of Ireland in 1949.

In 1930s the Republican Congress was made up of Communists who left the IRA and formed their own political group while the IRA was pro-German during WW2 and hoped that if Hitler won he would give Ireland unity.

In the 1950s Saor Uladh broke away and launched its own armed campaign along the border with Northern Ireland but later returned to the IRA when the Border Campaign began in the later 1950s before it ended in the early 1960s.

Saor Eire broke away from the IRA in 1967 led by a group of radical socialists and remained active until 1975.

The IRA split in 1969 with the Provisional IRA led by young Northern Irish leaders breaking away from the older Dublin led Official IRA leadership.

The Official IRA known as the Stickies remained active until 1972 when it declared a ceasefire. They rejected the hard line Catholic Nationalism of the Provisionals or "Provos" and adopted a Revolutionary Marxist ideology with its political wing calling itself Official Sinn Féin. The Stickies and the Provos regularly killed one another. They eventually became the Workers Party with Pat Rabitte and Eamon Gilmore becoming leading members and then Democratic Left. After the end of the Soviet Union and the Cold War eventually its members became supporters of the Labour Party when they moved away from paramilitarism and abandoned the extreme Left. Rabbitte and Gilmore both became leaders of the Labour Party.

The INLA broke away from the Official IRA in 1974 and fought for a supposed Marxist Revolution but were more interested in shooting each other and fighting the IRA than attacking the British. It eventually simply became a criminal organization involved in robbery and drug dealing before being wound up. Their political wing the IRSP lost many key leaders who were assassinated or left and today the party contests elections but polls poorly and takes part in protests like the anti-water protests and the like.

The Provisional IRA was the armed wing of the Provisional Sinn Féin party and the main opponent of the British during the Troubles.
Since the 1994 ceasefire and the official end of the Troubles in 1998 and 2005 when it officially disarmed it is no longer involved in an armed struggle but ex-provos are now heavily involved in legitimate business activity and organized crime especially the illegal fuel industry and smuggled cigarettes. The provos are now just another Mafia but maintain close ties with Gerry Adams and Sinn Féin.

The Continuity IRA broke away from the Provos in 1986 and had a political wing calling itself Republican Sinn Féin. Like the IRSP the RSF has only a tiny level of support however they do have one elected representative Councillor Tomás Ó Curraoin in Connemara.
The Continuity IRA split into the Óglaigh na hÉireann and Saoirse na hÉireann in recent years. Ursula Shannon, a Phd student from Trinity College was sentenced to several years in prison for involvement in an operation to steal weapons from a gun dealer in Offaly and in prison with Rose Lynch who shot an innocent man she was led to believe was involved in the shooting of CIRA member Liam Kenny.

The "Real" IRA split from the Provisional IRA in 1997 and were responsible for the Omagh bomb. Most of its key leaders are in jail and although it has been involved in attacks on police and soldiers and has been involved other bomb attacks it seems to be now primarily involved in criminality and is at war with the organized criminal gangs who refuse to bow down to them. Alan Ryan was killed because he was trying to extort drug dealers associated with mob boss Christy Kinahan's organization.

Yeah half of that is bullsh*t mate. You don't know what you're talking about.