"Non National" Attacks Woman in Co Waterford

Mr McBoatface · 04-02-2016 02:34PM

Cienciano wrote: »

But you said a description would help people protect themselves. How is knowing a guy has red hair and dressed in black going to help people protect themselves?

Really ? So in that example if a guy with red hair approach's my car while parked at lights in Clondalkin I'm not better informed to Immediately lock the door..... come on now.

BigJackC · 04-02-2016 02:35PM

Cienciano wrote: »

But you said a description would help people protect themselves. How is knowing a guy has red hair and dressed in black going to help people protect themselves?

By people identifying him and the authorities then apprehending him.

Little CuChulainn · 04-02-2016 02:36PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Really ? So in that example if a guy with red hair approach's my car while parked at lights in Clondalkin I'm not better informed to Immediately lock the door..... come on now.

What? Are you serious? I'd suggest if anyone tries to get into your car you lock your doors before you check the colour of his hair. In fact, lock them before you leave your driveway just to be safe.

Menas · 04-02-2016 02:36PM

BigJackC wrote: »

By people identifying him and the authorities then apprehending him.

Apprehend and lock up all the foreigners?

The Backwards Man · 04-02-2016 02:37PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Really ? So in that example if a guy with red hair approach's my car while parked at lights in Clondalkin I'm not better informed to Immediately lock the door..... come on now.

Then you see it's just a hilarious wig so you unlock the doors again?

Speedwell · 04-02-2016 02:38PM

How much you want to bet someone involved just told the guards "I bet it was one of those migrants causing trouble" and the guards reported it as "a non-national"?

The Randy Riverbeast · 04-02-2016 02:43PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Really ? So in that example if a guy with red hair approach's my car while parked at lights in Clondalkin I'm not better informed to Immediately lock the door..... come on now.

Its a good idea to lock yourself away any time you are approached by a red haired person.

Mr McBoatface · 04-02-2016 02:45PM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Its a good idea to lock yourself away any time you are approached by a red haired person.

You can't judge all red headed people the same.

BigJackC · 04-02-2016 02:49PM

Menas wrote: »

Apprehend and lock up all the foreigners?

The two who attacked and robbed the woman in Waterford. You know, the subject of this thread.

Jaysus.

The Randy Riverbeast · 04-02-2016 02:54PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

You can't judge all red headed people the same.

Sure, most are fine but all it takes is one like this and your children are gone or obese. You don't let 10,000 snakes come up to you because 100 won't bite!

This PC bull**** of treating them like people will doom us all, they don't integrate. Any children will also have red hair.

Fratton Fred · 04-02-2016 02:56PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

, if the victim could tell they where non-national because of skin colour

You mean anyone with a bit of a tan is a non national?

That might come as a surprise to Simon Zebo, Paul McGrath and half of the regulars at Coppers...

Menas · 04-02-2016 02:59PM

BigJackC wrote: »

The two who attacked and robbed the woman in Waterford. You know, the subject of this thread.

Jaysus.

And we can identify them by the description 'non national'?

Jaysus indeed.

04-02-2016 03:01PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

You mean anyone with a bit of a tan is a non national?

That might come as a surprise to Simon Zebo, Paul McGrath and half of the regulars at Coppers...

Kevin Sharkey and his Father Ted scene come to mind

Mr McBoatface · 04-02-2016 03:02PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

anyone with a bit of a tan is a non national

See I can selective quote too

BigJackC · 04-02-2016 03:02PM

Menas wrote: »

And we can identify them by the description 'non national'?

Jaysus indeed.

No, by giving a proper description of what they look like.

Dr Strange · 04-02-2016 03:04PM

Has the hat been found yet?

Mr McBoatface · 04-02-2016 03:07PM

Menas wrote: »

And we can identify them by the description 'non national'?

Jaysus indeed.

That's kinda the whole point ..... why not give physical description if available or describe the attributes such as accent which lend to the conclusion it was a Non-national.

Cienciano · 04-02-2016 03:28PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Really ? So in that example if a guy with red hair approach's my car while parked at lights in Clondalkin I'm not better informed to Immediately lock the door..... come on now.

So, let me picture it. You've just read an article about a red haired guy in clondalkin that robbed a car at lights. A guy walks up to your car in clondalkin and he has black hair, so you think your safe and leave your doors unlocked? You'd never think to lock your doors all the time? Maybe you learned nothing from the article and all the physical descriptions or photos won't make a difference, because if you worried about protecting yourself and you won't take any action unless you know the guys skin colour or country of origin, you're a lost cause.

Think some boardsies are extremely disappointed that these attacks don't involve sexual assault, and the attacker isn't muslim.

jaykay74 · 04-02-2016 03:35PM

511 wrote: »

1. It's helps identify the culprit.
2. It's important to know if immigrants are integrating, so we don't end up like Sweden or Germany.

Sweden is grand thanks

I remember talking to a Swede in the 90s asking how I stuck it out in Ireland with all the bombs. misinformation is a 2 way street I guess.

Nodin · 04-02-2016 03:36PM

jaykay74 wrote: »

Sweden is grand thanks

I remember talking to a Swede in the 90s asking how I stuck it out in Ireland with all the bombs. misinformation is a 2 way street I guess.

How can you type with all the muslaming going on?

donegaLroad · 04-02-2016 04:24PM

Sweden is not exactly grand... google Alexandra Mezher

I'll be jumped upon now for posting this. Could have happened anywhere I suppose.

jaykay74 · 04-02-2016 04:42PM

donegaLroad wrote: »

Sweden is not exactly grand... google Alexandra Mezher

I'll be jumped upon now for posting this. Could have happened anywhere I suppose.

In the context of "so we don't end up like Sweden or Germany." Sweden is grand. It was a flippant answer to a crackpot point.

Central station was also grand last night late after a feed of pints, no migrant gangs, rapists etc. Could have sworn it was a no go area but hey ho...

mynamejeff · 04-02-2016 05:13PM

Dungarvan is nowhere near between waterford city and tramore where this alleged happened

and we have enough freak show locals down here tanks very much with out including a large crowed of "non nationals " being accommodated in a disused hotel which in actually near dungarvan ,

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/man-jailed-for-torturing-puppy-226267.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/locals-voice-concern-over-plans-to-locate-refugees-at-waterford-hotel-370249.html

Little CuChulainn · 04-02-2016 05:15PM

donegaLroad wrote: »

Sweden is not exactly grand... google Alexandra Mezher

I'll be jumped upon now for posting this. Could have happened anywhere I suppose.

Could have. Google Lorcan Rooney.

Figbiscuithead · 04-02-2016 09:21PM

jobyrne30 wrote: »

There are fears in Dungarvan over safety because of the placement of Syrian refugees and the lack of suitable facilities for them.

The Garda issues a delayed non-descript description of a Non-National after the attack. It's irresponsible to have such a delay, given the locals very understandable fears and what has happened else where in Europe.

Ah, you must be referring to the shocking statistic that, on average, two women a week are murdered in Spain by their Spanish (in the vast majority of cases) partner/ex and that 109 women in total were murdered in 2015 and that so far, 11 women have been murdered this year alone?

http://elpais.com/elpais/2016/02/01/inenglish/1454340154_713618.html

No, I didn't think so. This, funnily enough, didn't make international headlines. I wonder why that is....

04-02-2016 09:25PM

jaykay74 wrote: »

Sweden is grand thanks

Opinion polls for the next GE suggest otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2018

BigJackC · 04-02-2016 09:35PM

Figbiscuithead wrote: »

Ah, you must be referring to the shocking statistic that, on average, two women a week are murdered in Spain by their Spanish (in the vast majority of cases) partner/ex and that 109 women in total were murdered in 2015 and that so far, 11 women have been murdered this year alone?

http://elpais.com/elpais/2016/02/01/inenglish/1454340154_713618.html

No, I didn't think so. This, funnily enough, didn't make international headlines. I wonder why that is....

Just over 100 people are murdered per year out of 25,000,000 and you expect it to make international headlines? In the global scheme of things, that's an extremely low murder rate.

Speaking of Spain:

65% of all crimes are committed by Spaniards and 35% by foreigners, even though foreigners make up only 15% of the population.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Spain#Immigration_and_crime

The Backwards Man · 04-02-2016 09:38PM

511 wrote: »

Opinion polls for the next GE suggest otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2018

Populist party in 8% opinion poll rise shocker.

Someone phone Fianna Fail

AnonoBoy · 04-02-2016 09:45PM

"In conclusion.... watch out for de immigrants people they be doing the crime on you and your womenfolk."

- All of them?

"No, not all of them but just to be safe watch out for people with different colour skin - they be the ones doing the crime the most. If you want proof watch this video my knuckle-dragging friend posted on the facebook."

Figbiscuithead · 04-02-2016 09:53PM

BigJackC wrote: »

Just over 100 people are murdered per year out of 25,000,000 and you expect it to make international headlines? In the global scheme of things, that's an extremely low murder rate.

I think you know the point I'm trying to make.

I don't expect it to make any kind of headlines as this has been happening for years (2010: 126; 2011: 115; 2012: 108; 2013: 113 etc.) but this sudden "concern" for the welfare of women IN EUROPE from certain quarters only comes about when Muslim immigrants are the alleged perpetrators.

On a global scale this might be "extremely low" but not on a European scale and I find it "funny" how you play those statistics down yet thank the opening post. We don't compare our murder rates with Mexico or El Salvador, we compare them with other developed European countries (i.e. like with like) where women supposedly aren't treated like this. We could also play down what happened in Cologne if we compared the sexual assault stats on a global scale. The post I quoted referred to Europe and that's what I was responding to:

It's irresponsible to have such a delay, given the locals very understandable fears and what has happened else where in Europe.

"Non National" Attacks Woman in Co Waterford

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