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PSNI Recruitment 2015

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  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Just had a look at Police Scotland recruitment and it says their process takes 6-9 weeks....that's a blink of the eye over here lol, they also have ongoing recruitment, tempted to apply.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭MikeOneJuliet


    Just had a look at Police Scotland recruitment and it says their process takes 6-9 weeks....that's a blink of the eye over here lol, they also have ongoing recruitment, tempted to apply.

    It's worth a go. The job is much different according to a colleague of mine who transferred, and apparently PSNI is far better but it's still worth it


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    I suppose it would be a foot in the door and the opportunity to gain core skills that would be transferable if chose to come home and apply for PSNI again.

    Thanks for the extra info though, it gives me something to mull over whilst waiting about on IST results.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭MikeOneJuliet


    I suppose it would be a foot in the door and the opportunity to gain core skills that would be transferable if chose to come home and apply for PSNI again.

    Thanks for the extra info though, it gives me something to mull over whilst waiting about on IST results.

    It's all experience and at the end of the day, you'd still have the job you're after!


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    You can't apply for the Police in Scotland whilst you have an application ongoing with any other police service.

    Taken from their website, (as I remember thinking the same thing waiting for my IST results this time last year! My god its a long process.... took me 15 months!)

    - You cannot apply if you have submitted an application that is still being considered by any other police force.

    - You cannot apply if you have been rejected by any police force in the UK in the last 6 months.


    http://www.scotland.police.uk/recruitment/police-officers/eligibility/


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    KevBo2015 wrote: »
    You can't apply for the Police in Scotland whilst you have an application ongoing with any other police service.

    Taken from their website, (as I remember thinking the same thing waiting for my IST results this time last year! My god its a long process.... took me 15 months!)

    - You cannot apply if you have submitted an application that is still being considered by any other police force.

    - You cannot apply if you have been rejected by any police force in the UK in the last 6 months.


    http://www.scotland.police.uk/recruitment/police-officers/eligibility/

    Cheers, didn't notice that bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Just had a look at Police Scotland recruitment and it says their process takes 6-9 weeks....that's a blink of the eye over here lol, they also have ongoing recruitment, tempted to apply.

    Scotland have consolidated training events, you arrive on the Monday and you'll finish on the Wednesday/Thursday with a conditional offer pending medical and vetting.

    Being from Northern Ireland you'll need to attend the training events in Aberdeen, the next consolidated event is in 22nd February. Few of my friends transferred to Scotland and they love it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    D4z wrote: »
    Scotland have consolidated training events, you arrive on the Monday and you'll finish on the Wednesday/Thursday with a conditional offer pending medical and vetting.

    Being from Northern Ireland you'll need to attend the training events in Aberdeen, the next consolidated event is in 22nd February. Few of my friends transferred to Scotland and they love it.

    I wish I could apply alongside the PSNI but can't, so I'll see how the pans out.

    Hopefully if it doesn't work out here I'll apply for Scotland sometime in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Well folks that date is getting closer, anyone else got the excited, nervous twisted knots in the gut yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Well folks that date is getting closer, anyone else got the excited, nervous twisted knots in the gut yet?

    Haven't thought about it much this time around but looking forward to finding out now


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Bustermoon


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Well folks that date is getting closer, anyone else got the excited, nervous twisted knots in the gut yet?


    Only finally got IST out of the way very very recently so currently enjoying the relief of one thing off the list before back to hitting the online learning, training for pca!! My prediction for results is 5.30 on Thursday evening!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Are we starting a book lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 tirchonaill77


    Maybe a silly question but I honestly don't know the answer. Has the 50/50 recruitment stopped in the PSNI?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭WannabePC


    Maybe a silly question but I honestly don't know the answer. Has the 50/50 recruitment stopped in the PSNI?

    The 50/50 rule has been abolished and hasn't been used in the last 2 campaigns.


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Maybe a silly question but I honestly don't know the answer. Has the 50/50 recruitment stopped in the PSNI?

    Yeah, it stopped as of the beginning of 2013 campaign.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Redboy12345


    Hi Guys! Newbie here.. Through to assessment centre end of Jan, any tips? (Within the rules), very informative reading the fourm, thanks to all.

    Goodluck to everyone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Hi Guys! Newbie here.. Through to assessment centre end of Jan, any tips? (Within the rules), very informative reading the fourm, thanks to all.

    Goodluck to everyone!

    End of Jan? Mine is much later than that! :-o

    Don't make the same mistake I did and not read all the information correctly! Apart from that, it is all down to your communication skills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Anyone else had their AC venue changed??? Bit raging cos I'd booked a room for the night before so I wasn't road raging in heels lmfao


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Anyone else had their AC venue changed??? Bit raging cos I'd booked a room for the night before so I wasn't road raging in heels lmfao

    I got the email but my AC isn't at the venue they are changing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭SamC321


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Anyone else had their AC venue changed??? Bit raging cos I'd booked a room for the night before so I wasn't road raging in heels lmfao
    Same boat, got the email this afternoon


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Glad to have the AC out of the way, hard part done in my opinion.

    Mixed feelings about how well I have done, but only time will tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Can't believe some have the AC done already, mine is so far away!


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    Can't believe some have the AC done already, mine is so far away!

    The only down side to mine being so early, is I'll have to wait much longer for the results.


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭shanevendrell


    Folks, am I right or wrong in saying that in campaigns 1 and 2 that there was early phasing of recruits through to the latter stages before others had finished their AC's or am I wrong? Essentially, is there an advantage to having to go first?


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Folks, am I right or wrong in saying that in campaigns 1 and 2 that there was early phasing of recruits through to the latter stages before others had finished their AC's or am I wrong? Essentially, is there an advantage to having to go first?

    Have you had your AC yet?

    I believe in C1 the highest scoring candidates were phased through at first and the remainder sent a delay email/letter. I think it was pretty much a similar thing with C2.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Phasing happens after AC. No advantage to doing it first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Have you had your AC yet?

    I believe in C1 the highest scoring candidates were phased through at first and the remainder sent a delay email/letter. I think it was pretty much a similar thing with C2.

    What he said. So yes advantage to go first AND score exceptionally well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Have my AC done also. Was told at it that you could be phased through before you get your AC result to do the PCA and then you would have the possibility of passing PCA then getting your AC result and being out of the running. Highly doubt that this would ever happen. As far as I am aware you have to pass the AC before you can do PCA and you may get a breakdown of your AC score once you've done the PCA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭WannabePC


    Timetravel wrote: »
    Have my AC done also. Was told at it that you could be phased through before you get your AC result to do the PCA and then you would have the possibility of passing PCA then getting your AC result and being out of the running. Highly doubt that this would ever happen. As far as I am aware you have to pass the AC before you can do PCA and you may get a breakdown of your AC score once you've done the PCA.

    I would really doubt that people would get a date for the PCA before getting the AC results at all, especially if you haven't scored high enough to pass. Deloitte manage the process up until the AC stage and then hand the list of applicants who passed to the PSNI who then process the applicants according to highest order of merit in phases of about 100 or so. It's in your interest to score as high as possible at the AC so you get processed through in the first fee batches and stand a better chance of getting in if they're only taking a minimal amount of recruits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Timetravel wrote: »
    Have my AC done also. Was told at it that you could be phased through before you get your AC result to do the PCA and then you would have the possibility of passing PCA then getting your AC result and being out of the running. Highly doubt that this would ever happen. As far as I am aware you have to pass the AC before you can do PCA and you may get a breakdown of your AC score once you've done the PCA.

    I was told the same, asked the lady carrying out the debrief a few questions about it and she was fairly certain they could phase candidates through stages before the AC results are released. I don't know how they could do it but it is what is being said by Deloitte.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    I dont think that can be true. As far as I recall there is a pass mark in the AC, you would need all the results in before you could set a pass mark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭WannabePC


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    I dont think that can be true. As far as I recall there is a pass mark in the AC, you would need all the results in before you could set a pass mark.

    I think the pass park is set at 60% every year and doesn't budge. It was for the last 2 campaigns but we'll see what happens for this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    I dont think that can be true. As far as I recall there is a pass mark in the AC, you would need all the results in before you could set a pass mark.

    According to the Deloitte rep at the AC, it's possible they may process candidates before AC results go out, not saying it makes any sense though. It basically comes down to what the PSNI want to do, after all they control how the recruitment process is carried out. It doesn't really matter how it was done in previous years, they could make everyone act out Macbeth if they felt it would benefit the process.

    They could be thinking if they begin the vetting and medical process early on it would help cut the amount of high scorers not getting in due to either of these stages taking too long. I don't know, like everything in this process we can second guess and query why they do things, but we'll just never know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭shanevendrell


    Can confirm what the others have said, phasing to begin in March for selected candidates before results are out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭iamveryhopeful


    Can confirm what the others have said, phasing to begin in March for selected candidates before results are out.

    is this good news or bad news for the 1405 campaign?

    Does it mean they are so in need of new recruits they are blasting 1405ers through even past the supposed cut off date of March/April. And then fast tracking this latest campaign?

    Or does it mean they are close to cutting off the 1405 campaign so they need to start pulling from the new one asap......


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    is this good news or bad news for the 1405 campaign?

    Does it mean they are so in need of new recruits they are blasting 1405ers through even past the supposed cut off date of March/April. And then fast tracking this latest campaign?

    Or does it mean they are close to cutting off the 1405 campaign so they need to start pulling from the new one asap......

    Personally I'd take it as a good sign.

    Just a thought, but they could be doing it in order to maximise squad numbers, so instead of 25 being called for the last squad/s of C2, they may also call the high scorers in C3 to fill that intake up. Obviously that depends on how low on the C2 merit list they go and when that would be, also depends on whether or not they actually do start phasing C3 early and if the dates overlap. Just a thought though....probably a load of waffle in reality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 Ghost15


    Wouldn't get my hopes up.. remember when deloitte told us all that our results for c3 would be out by midnight on that exact date and they never came? Lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Ghost15 wrote: »
    Wouldn't get my hopes up.. remember when deloitte told us all that our results for c3 would be out by midnight on that exact date and they never came? Lol

    It's a shame we can't get clarification from the PSNI.

    As much as I believe that Deloitte are providing us with accurate info, I can't help but be cautious of any possible miscommunication between themselves and the PSNI regarding this. I suppose we just have to sit tight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Vetting seems to be the major hold up for anyone who's hadn't cleared in previous campaigns. Perhaps they'll start with that since its only paperwork and easily organised into a merit list after grades are achieved. Or perhaps anyone who scores 90%+ will get an invite to PCA before the grades are issued


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭WannabePC


    Can confirm what the others have said, phasing to begin in March for selected candidates before results are out.

    Do you mind if I ask how you know this buddy?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭iamveryhopeful


    It's a shame we can't get clarification from the PSNI.

    As much as I believe that Deloitte are providing us with accurate info, I can't help but be cautious of any possible miscommunication between themselves and the PSNI regarding this. I suppose we just have to sit tight.

    Haha you're telling me. Evidently they don't communicate at all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    It's weird that they would put people through PCA before the results are out. If I'm honest when I was told this at first I thought it was a mistake. Stressful enough taking this process one step at a time never mind doing juggling two parts lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Timetravel wrote: »
    It's weird that they would put people through PCA before the results are out. If I'm honest when I was told this at first I thought it was a mistake. Stressful enough taking this process one step at a time never mind doing juggling two parts lol

    I thought it was a mistake too so asked more about it.

    The only reason I can think of for doing it like that is to reduce the amount of time it takes from application to getting the call, as we have seen on here from C1 and C2 there are folks still waiting to complete stages after a year and a half.

    I think (and as Mop a Top said) they will start with vetting stage as it seems to take the longest to reach completion for most people.

    I was looking at Police Scotland a few months ago and they have you fill out the vetting forms as part of your initial application, and their turnaround times are no where near as long as the PSNI.


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭shanevendrell


    WannabePC wrote: »
    Do you mind if I ask how you know this buddy?

    It's on both the document issued at the end of the AC and we were told this verbally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Just want to confirm what others have said. My understanding was that as the AC is marked it is sent to the PSNI. They then may call people forward for PCA, I assume it will be the high scorers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Redboy12345


    Probably repeating what has been said in the last few replies; in my view it seems this year is different from other years and they are phasing candidates through before we get our AC results through (maybe they have had feedback on how excruciating previous campaigns have been . Maybe the 'fast track' is coming into play here. And it certainly is possible for them to start phasing candidates through at the start of march, with only a handful of A.Cs left.

    Anyhow, good luck to all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    Is this not like a bit of small print at the bottom of the sheet? Nearly sure I remember something like that being mentioned at the AC stage of the second campaign, correct me if I am wrong however.

    I would not get all jumped up and excited about it these things take time, I'd imagine the start date of July/Aug of campaign 1 and 2 for the first squads will be a solid guess. The PSNI is a big machine and things take time, lot of other promotion, movement, training and planning goes on within the organization.


  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭IUA14


    Anyone heard anything further after the assessment centre?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Nothing! Thought it was 15th


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  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭ItWasntMe88


    Nope, nothing here either.

    It seems they didn't go ahead with the phased processing of candidates through the PCA.


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