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2016 RTE Drama: Rebellion - no spoilers please (mod warning in post #1)

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  • #1472
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    bee06 wrote: »
    I really wanted to like it but the May/Frances kiss and the black panther salute finished me off. Terrible ending.

    The clenched fist is a Marxist salute.


  • #1473
    mick malones mauser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mick malones mauser


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Hopefully your captors will release you now. You poor thing, held up for 5 wks and forced to watch.....jeez tis teddible!!

    I watched it for a laugh and enjoyed how silly and bad it was
    But I don't think it was meant to be a comedy
    Was hoping gleeson would get shot


  • #1474
    buckfasterer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭buckfasterer


    Honestly don't know why I watched the whole thing. Really wanted it to be so much better and more about what actually happened during the whole Rising itself, not to be about love interests/affairs etc.


  • #1475
    Baggy Trousers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    FYI - Terry Wogan is on Meaning of Life next.


  • #1476
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    The clenched fist is a Marxist salute.

    Joseph please put the facts and your knowledge to one side for a moment and allow these creative writing geniuses their moment to shine.


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  • #1477
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,522 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Quite liked the first 3 episodes....then it descended into a mess


  • #1478
    bee06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    The clenched fist is a Marxist salute.

    Good to know. However I would say most of the audience wouldn't either. The lack explanation around things like this was part of its downfall. An important part of historical drama is explaining the historical nuances that viewers won't always be aware of.


  • #1479
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mick malones mauser wrote: »
    I watched it for a laugh and enjoyed how silly and bad it was
    But I don't think it was meant to be a comedy
    Was hoping gleeson would get shot

    Please get a pen and paper out and write that epic series you've been hinting your capable of writing at once. Do not deny the world your genius any longer


  • #1480
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    FYI - Terry Wogan is on Meaning of Life next.

    Terry always came across as such a gentleman but as for that other overrated egotist uncle gaybo I won't be entertaining his little token digout present from rte. A sanctimonious smug tosser!


  • #1481
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,085 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    ...so we learnt the whole "Brother and the Loan Shark" arc was completely pointless ...
    I actually thought episode 2 and 3 was rather entertaining but overall I found the show bit disappointing..
    That episode particularly was all over the place though - the slow mo bit with fist in the air was just cringey

    Best scene of the series imo was the Shooting of the Policeman at Dublin Castle - that was very well done


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  • #1482
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    nagdefy wrote: »
    Finger prints? No finger prints until 1928??!

    Actually humble pie.. i stand corrected :)

    Fingerprints were first used as evidence decades before.


  • #1483
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    ...so we learnt the whole "Brother and the Loan Shark" arc was completely pointless ...
    I actually thought episode 2 and 3 was rather entertaining but overall I found the show bit disappointing..
    That episode particularly was all over the place though - the slow mo bit with fist in the air was just cringey

    Best scene of the series imo was the Shooting of the Policeman at Dublin Castle - that was very well done

    The raised fist is a Marxist salute and had been used for decades before 1916.


  • #1484
    Baggy Trousers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Terry always came across as such a gentleman but as for that other overrated egotist uncle gaybo I won't be entertaining his little token digout present from rte. A sanctimonious smug tosser!

    I have seen it before, its an excellent interview. Wogan has great insights and observations. RIP.


  • #1485
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    bee06 wrote: »
    Good to know. However I would say most of the audience wouldn't either. The lack explanation around things like this was part of its downfall. An important part of historical drama is explaining the historical nuances that viewers won't always be aware of.

    How could you not know that a clenched fist is the Marxist salute?


  • #1486
    mick malones mauser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mick malones mauser


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Please get a pen and paper out and write that epic series you've been hinting your capable of writing at once. Do not deny the world your genius any longer


    You know I might just do that.
    However just because I can't lay an egg doesn't mean I can't tell when one is rotten


  • #1487
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    UP THE REPUBLIC.

    Not bad a bit bland but eh why not a little drama. I could do more with military aspects of the Rising. Anyway 3 stars out of 5 for me.:cool:


  • #1488
    nagdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    How could you not know that a clenched fist is the Marxist salute?

    Many well educated people wouldn't know. No one knows everything. The older you get you realise that and realise that not everything is black and white.

    You're a very intelligent well read young man Joseph but going around correcting people's errors like a self appointed school master won't lead to any further progression. Listen more and put yourself in other posters' boots and you'll really excel.


  • #1489
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,085 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    The raised fist is a Marxist salute and had been used for decades before 1916.

    i'm well aware of that - my point still stands:
    It was cringey


  • #1490
    johnruns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭johnruns


    mick malones mauser wrote: »
    You know I might just do that.
    However just because I can't lay an egg doesn't mean I can't tell when one is rotten

    very good, im going to rob that quote hope you dont mind :)


  • #1491
    BlibBlab
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BlibBlab


    I thought it was ok, mixed the good with the bad but it was alright. I'm not big into TV series and usually lose interest quickly but I watched this one through to the end (short and all as it may be)


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  • #1492
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    buckfasterer wrote: »
    Honestly don't know why I watched the whole thing. Really wanted it to be so much better and more about what actually happened during the whole Rising itself, not to be about love interests/affairs etc.

    It is incredibly unfair to De Valera who is portrayed as a coward while Collins is portrayed uncritically. I'm disgusted.

    De Valera behaved heroically during the Rising holding his position until the final surrender.
    Without his political leadership the Republic would never have been born.


  • #1493
    nagdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    It is incredibly unfair to De Valera who is portrayed as a coward while Collins is portrayed uncritically. I'm disgusted.

    The crying/vomiting scene in the stone breaker's yard in Kilmainham was ridiculous


  • #1494
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Enjoyed the first three episodes, but really struggled through the final two, which descended into cliche-ridden melodrama. I don't have much interest in seeing more of any of these characters


  • #1495
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    nagdefy wrote: »
    The crying/vomiting scene in the stone breaker's yard in Kilmainham was ridiculous

    De Valera did suffer a mental collapse during the Rising but not as a result of cowardice but as a result of the psychological stress of combat and sheer exhaustion.

    He failed to send men to assist at Mount Street because his Boland's Mill position faced Beggar's Bush barracks across the canal and he was holding Westland Row station and the railline with only a fraction of the men he was supposed to have in his battalion did to the countermanding order.


  • #1496
    nagdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    De Valera did suffer a mental collapse during the Rising but not as a result of cowardice but as a result of the psychological stress of combat and sheer exhaustion.

    Yes i knew that but changing the context and having it take place at an execution scene that was fictional took the biscuit. Implied cowardice.

    But that's the lazy narrative fed for over 30 years now and especially since the Michael Collins 1996 film. It's almost obligatory to have jovial Mick clapping lads on the back and pedantic Dev being sly or cowardly. I expected they'd do as much tonight. No middle ground on the two men.


  • #1497
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mick malones mauser wrote: »
    You know I might just do that.
    However just because I can't lay an egg doesn't mean I can't tell when one is rotten

    Can't wait. Pm me when it gets commissioned


  • #1498
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    mick malones mauser wrote: »
    You know I might just do that.
    However just because I can't lay an egg doesn't mean I can't tell when one is rotten

    Tipp Gunner is being unfair. We all know that RTE would refuse to broadcast anything that is (a) Above medicore, (b) Not politically correct and (c ) a project where you and your chums are not related to family who work at RTE or a former member of Labour/Worker's Party


  • #1499
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    josephryan1989 wrote: »
    It is incredibly unfair to De Valera who is portrayed as a coward while Collins is portrayed uncritically. I'm disgusted.

    De Valera behaved heroically during the Rising holding his position until the final surrender.
    Without his political leadership the Republic would never have been born.

    Leadership as in not going over to negotiate the actual treaty?


  • #1500
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Tipp Gunner is being unfair. We all know that RTE would refuse to broadcast anything that is (a) Above medicore, (b) Not politically correct and (c ) a project where you and your chums are not related to family who work at RTE or a former member of Labour/Worker's Party

    Its not as easy as people think to create a drama and work within constraint. I'm no fan of rte and the outrageous salaries they pay to mediocrity but I'd have to defend the fact they are trying to commission a few dramas


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  • #1501
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    UP THE REPUBLIC.

    Not bad a bit bland but eh why not a little drama. I could do more with military aspects of the Rising. Anyway 3 stars out of 5 for me.:cool:

    Actually Jimmy said "Up The Worker's Republic". Those slogans (and "Up the Rebels"/ " Up the Republic") were common themes back then. So, hardly "bland". What else could have been said?


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