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2016 RTE Drama: Rebellion - no spoilers please (mod warning in post #1)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    An all star cast? I recognize the traveller from love hate and nobody else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭brian_t


    An all star cast? I recognize the traveller from love hate and nobody else.

    Michelle Fairley (Catelyn Stark in Game of Thrones) was the first voice heard.

    Ian McElhinney is also in it but maybe not the promo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,539 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    An all star cast? I recognize the traveller from love hate and nobody else.



    Quite a few cast from Love/Hate


    Robert Redford a producer too (Sundance)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Isn't it Charlie Murphy too?

    I don't like the music over it, it's not anything to do with the timeframe and seems totally incongruous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭brian_t


    With or Without You (circa 1987)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Not a great trailer... and whoever put it together must be a fan of Downton Abbey.

    There was a much better promo made for the second season of Downton that used the exact same version of that song:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Haha at the all star cast comment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Haha at the all star cast comment!

    Some big names in it though. Shows the attention and resource RTE is putting to it.
    I think the U2 theme is to juxtapose the Ireland of 100 years ago and what our forefathers fought and dreams for,and the independent, self confident, and rich of thought and artistic expression, that it is today on the global stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    There was a much better promo made for the second season of Downton that used the exact same version of that song:


    By the Scala and Kolacny Bros choir I think. Belgian girls choir who played the Olympia earlier this year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Could be wrong but I heard this is the first production of its type to ever be allowed shoot in the GPO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭brian_t


    First Up wrote: »
    By the Scala and Kolacny Bros choir I think. Belgian girls choir who played the Olympia earlier this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Radio5


    How many Gleesons are in it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Radio5 wrote: »
    How many Gleesons are in it!!

    It's a OGP (One Gleeson Production).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Is that Steve Wall (of The Stunning) @ 0:34secs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    Big new drama on RTE on Sunday, to commemorate the Easter Rising.
    Looks very stylish in the trailer, maybe too stylish.
    I think I'd have rathered they filmed the drama telling the story of actual participants.
    Instead, they seem to have gone for a fictionalized production, focusing on romantic liaisons of four ladies with the background of the insurrection.
    Like the way Titanic was ruined by the whole DiCaprio/Winslet story.
    Still...hope to be proven wrong.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Big new drama on RTE on Sunday, to commemorate the Easter Rising.
    Looks very stylish in the trailer, maybe too stylish.
    I think I'd have rathered they filmed the drama telling the story of actual participants.
    Instead, they seem to have gone for a fictionalized production, focusing on romantic liaisons of four ladies with the background of the insurrection.
    Like the way Titanic was ruined by the whole DiCaprio/Winslet story.
    Still...hope to be proven wrong.

    I disagree. We've seen this part of Irish history from the famous name's points of view a hundred times already. Likewise we've seen it from a male point of view as many times. No doubt we'll see it from those points of view a couple times more throughout the year. From what I've seen and heard about this production it's not just a bunch of women falling in love with the rising going on in the background. I've got very high hopes for this, Charlie Murphy is one of the most talented actors we have at the moment and she deserves a chance to shine in a leading role. Hope I'm not disappointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Threads merged


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    I disagree. We've seen this part of Irish history from the famous name's points of view a hundred times already. Likewise we've seen it from a male point of view as many times. No doubt we'll see it from those points of view a couple times more throughout the year. From what I've seen and heard about this production it's not just a bunch of women falling in love with the rising going on in the background. I've got very high hopes for this, Charlie Murphy is one of the most talented actors we have at the moment and she deserves a chance to shine in a leading role. Hope I'm not disappointed.

    Apart from the movie Micael Collins, which only had about 5 mins of the 1916 rising in it, I can't recall ANY, depictions of the leaders of the rising on film or TV, let alone a hundred of them.
    There was one produced by RTE in 1966, called Insurrection, but it's never been shown since.
    I think that the powers in Montrose don't know how to do a drama featuring historical figures, should they be celebrated as heroes, or looked upon as misguided with the benefit of 100 years hindsight.
    So let's just do a romantic period piece with a backdrop of the rising.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Apart from the movie Micael Collins, which only had about 5 mins of the 1916 rising in it, I can't recall ANY, depictions of the leaders of the rising on film or TV, let alone a hundred of them.
    There was one produced by RTE in 1966, called Insurrection, but it's never been shown since.
    I think that the powers in Montrose don't know how to do a drama featuring historical figures, should they be celebrated as heroes, or looked upon as misguided with the benefit of 100 years hindsight.
    So let's just do a romantic period piece with a backdrop of the rising.

    Well, off the top of my head TG4 did two brilliant series recently on the leaders of 1916.
    Everything I leaned in school about the Rising was from a male point of view.
    There are numerous other TV programmes coming this year that will focus on the leaders or the men involved. If I'm wrong I'll come back here at the end of the year and eat my hat.

    Edit: There's definitely one called The Rising on the way with Liam Neeson's son playing Collins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭OU812


    I only have SD here but I really want to see this in HD. Is anyone in a position to get a copy of this in HD that I can borrow off them please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    Big new drama on RTE on Sunday, to commemorate the Easter Rising.
    Looks very stylish in the trailer, maybe too stylish.
    I think I'd have rathered they filmed the drama telling the story of actual participants.
    Instead, they seem to have gone for a fictionalized production, focusing on romantic liaisons of four ladies with the background of the insurrection.
    Like the way Titanic was ruined by the whole DiCaprio/Winslet story.
    Still...hope to be proven wrong.

    The storyline of the Wind That Shakes The Barley about brothers fighting together and falling out with eachother draws on real life sets of brothers such as the Hales brothers who fought in the War of Independence and took opposite sides in the civil war.

    Similarly this series seems to show how privately educated wealthy and middle class ladies who became suffragettes joined the Daughters of Ireland and brought them in contact through Irish Ireland cultural political groups with men from the IRB, the Irish Volunteers and Citizen Army.

    In real life the Ryan sisters, the Gifford sisters and the Kiernan sisters were influential women who married or had relationships with a who's who of rebel men who fought in 1916 the War of Independence Civil War and went on to create the new state.

    Then and now who you were related to, friendly with or in love with decided your choice of politics and your loyalties.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    Apart from the movie Micael Collins, which only had about 5 mins of the 1916 rising in it, I can't recall ANY, depictions of the leaders of the rising on film or TV, let alone a hundred of them.
    There was one produced by RTE in 1966, called Insurrection, but it's never been shown since.
    I think that the powers in Montrose don't know how to do a drama featuring historical figures, should they be celebrated as heroes, or looked upon as misguided with the benefit of 100 years hindsight.
    So let's just do a romantic period piece with a backdrop of the rising.

    There was a 3 part series 15 years ago called Rebel Heart. The first episode recreated the 1916 Rising. The hero was a red haired handsome medical student from a wealthy South side Dublin family who fights in the GPO before he becomes one of Collins' agents during the War Of Independence. He is sent to Cork where he helps Liam Lynch and his men fight the Auxies and Tans. He at first takes the Treaty side but when he is ordered to go to war with them he joins the Republicans and is killed. His love interest is a Belfast woman who is a crackshot with a rifle.

    And who can forget the episode of Young Indiana Jones where he and his Belgian friend Remy arrive in Ireland on their way to England to enlist in the Belgian Army. They end up in Dublin where Indy gets a job in a pub where he meets Sean O'Casey. He goes to the theatre where he meets William Butler Years who hates O'Casey's realist work. Jones dates Sean Lemass' sister and they get into a fight before becoming friends. Then the Rising breaks out and Lemass takes part while Indy and his sister and Remy are trapped in a pub as the city burns down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    There was a 3 part series 15 years ago called Rebel Heart. The first episode recreated the 1916 Rising. The hero was a red haired handsome medical student from a wealthy South side Dublin family who fights in the GPO before he becomes one of Collins' agents during the War Of Independence. He is sent to Cork where he helps Liam Lynch and his men fight the Auxies and Tans. He at first takes the Treaty side but when he is ordered to go to war with them he joins the Republicans and is killed. His love interest is a Belfast woman who is a crackshot with a rifle.

    And who can forget the episode of Young Indiana Jones where he and his Belgian friend Remy arrive in Ireland on their way to England to enlist in the Belgian Army. They end up in Dublin where Indy gets a job in a pub where he meets Sean O'Casey. He goes to the theatre where he meets William Butler Years who hates O'Casey's realist work. Jones dates Sean Lemass' sister and they get into a fight before becoming friends. Then the Rising breaks out and Lemass takes part while Indy and his sister and Remy are trapped in a pub as the city burns down.
    My point was, there hasn't been a hundred different dramas on film or TV focusing on any of the signatories of the proclamation, or portraying the events of Easter week using Pearse, Connolly, Clarke etc as the subject.
    It seems that on the 100th anniversary of this piece of factual history, that we are given a 5 part drama using fictional characters and a big love story.
    The wind that shakes the barley was set during the war of independence. Not Easter week.
    While I saw the Indiana Jones episode, he's hardly an historical figure.
    Like I said in a previous post, I hope they don't ruin what seems to be good production values and unprecedented access to historical buildings, to produce a "Jack & Rose" Titanic story about love between the social classes with a backdrop of the rising.
    Every other western country has dozens of movies/ TV dramas about their historical leaders.
    We've got none.
    Hope we haven't let this chance slip by...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    My point was, there hasn't been a hundred different dramas on film or TV focusing on any of the signatories of the proclamation, or portraying the events of Easter week using Pearse, Connolly, Clarke etc as the subject.
    It seems that on the 100th anniversary of this piece of factual history, that we are given a 5 part drama using fictional characters and a big love story.
    The wind that shakes the barley was set during the war of independence. Not Easter week.
    While I saw the Indiana Jones episode, he's hardly an historical figure.
    Like I said in a previous post, I hope they don't ruin what seems to be good production values and unprecedented access to historical buildings, to produce a "Jack & Rose" Titanic story about love between the social classes with a backdrop of the rising.
    Every other western country has dozens of movies/ TV dramas about their historical leaders.
    We've got none.
    Hope we haven't let this chance slip by...

    It's the first of many productions we'll see this year. It hasn't even aired yet and you're writing it off. I don't see anything in the trailer suggesting romance will be the main storyline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭jimmythedivil


    Looking forward to this.

    One thing that worries me slightly are the recent press releases talking about how it was written by the same guy who wrote Charlie and hoped to build on the 'success' of that. Now I was less than impressed by Charlie and it got fairly mixed reviews in many places at the time too. I think they were hoping Charlie would be snapped up by a few foreign networks and the fact that it hasn't is surely an indictment of what was a fairly expensive production.

    It was a good idea of them to bring in a foreign director but I would be far more confident if this was an BBC/RTE production. Hopefully it won't be ruined by any daft love story plotlines either.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Looking forward to this.

    One thing that worries me slightly are the recent press releases talking about how it was written by the same guy who wrote Charlie and hoped to build on the 'success' of that. Now I was less than impressed by Charlie and it got fairly mixed reviews in many places at the time too. I think they were hoping Charlie would be snapped up by a few foreign networks and the fact that it hasn't is surely an indictment of what was a fairly expensive production.

    It was a good idea of them to bring in a foreign director but I would be far more confident if this was an BBC/RTE production. Hopefully it won't be ruined by any daft love story plotlines either.

    My main worry would be the quality of writing too. I've seen plenty of things on RTÉ that have painfully bad writing. That Clean Break thing that was on recently a prime example. Even to just the dialogue in some shows is very poor at times, never mind the plots and story arcs. We shall see though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,874 ✭✭✭SteM


    Anyone know how many episodes there are four this?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    SteM wrote: »
    Anyone know how many episodes there are four this?

    5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,287 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/rebellion-what-an-outsider-s-eye-brings-to-rt%C3%A9-s-easter-rising-centrepiece-1.2476448

    I cannot get this in Britain so I will have to ask for my mum to record it and I will have a look next time I am over

    Is this in HD?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke



    Is this in HD?

    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭weadick


    Anyone else's RTE1 just go blank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    I like how it starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭weadick


    Lisha wrote: »
    I like how it starts.

    Is your screen blank too?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    weadick wrote: »
    Is your screen blank too?!

    Nope sorry.

    Am on saor view not sky

    Hope you get sorted soon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    It always surprises me to see that done Irish supported the British rule over us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    I'd like to see Rebel Heart been put back on TV as well, very good series about the back round of what happened in 1916 made back in 2001 (BBC Production) (James D'Arcy was very good in it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    Is that Camille O'Sullivan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    So many Love/Hate actors. Few Game of Thrones ones too.

    Good start, looks well made.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wow the set is impressive. Nelsons pillar and all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Getting into it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Looks good I have to say. Strange how jarring it can be to hear GSTK sang with an Irish accent


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    The countess was markovic right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,287 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Lisha wrote: »
    I'm on another online site and a few northern Irish mothers are too.
    I was really surprised to hear them totally refer to themselves as British. To them they live completely in British. I know that's the fact but I think we are fed this notion that northern Irish would prefer to be under Irish rule but the opposite is true. To them ireland is a completely different country.

    You should drop them the hint that they live in Ireland :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    You should drop them the hint that they live in Ireland :pac:

    Nope :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Lisha wrote: »
    I'm on another online site and a few northern Irish mothers are too.
    I was really surprised to hear them totally refer to themselves as British. To them they live completely in British. I know that's the fact but I think we are fed this notion that northern Irish would prefer to be under Irish rule but the opposite is true. To them ireland is a completely different country.

    Iv'e heard people up there call themselves Northern Irish, so they're neither Irish or British...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    The countess was markovic right?
    Yes, Markievicz.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    " A chance to catch up......" AKA :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 652 ✭✭✭DanielODonnell


    Lisha wrote: »
    I'm on another online site and a few northern Irish mothers are too.
    I was really surprised to hear them totally refer to themselves as British. To them they live completely in British. I know that's the fact but I think we are fed this notion that northern Irish would prefer to be under Irish rule but the opposite is true. To them ireland is a completely different country.


    Has it ever crossed your mind that you have been taking to Ulster-Scot people, half of us are from a Gaelic ancestry, even more Gaelic that many people down south who are from an anglo-Irish background. Islander Scots are more gaelic than some Irish too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    I bet Cormac shoots one of the British cats. :D



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