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Gardai are hunting for two gangs behind separate brutal sex assaults on young girls

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BigJackC wrote: »
    You're more concerned about my postings than gang rape. Fecking bizarre.


    You couldn't give a rats ass about the attacks and I'd be amazed if anyone believes that you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Disgruntled Badger


    If they've cc TV and dna they are done. They don't need descriptions because they have them. I suspect the Guards are keeping it quiet as they are all minors. Doubt the Guards would deliberately subdue the story because they might not be white. Why would they need to, afterall we don't have race issues here on a par with other parts of Europe where there might be a backlash.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Gatling wrote: »
    Been several of the suspects are themselves children aged 13 -17, I doubt they will release any descriptions if they have cctv footage and match the victims discriptions,
    That was my first thought, that the suspects are underaged themselves so that precludes descriptions, especially if they've other strong leads. And given the high chance of vigilante reactions considering the nature and vileness of the crime they're attempting to keep a lid on that too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 333 ✭✭BigJackC


    Nodin wrote: »
    You couldn't give a rats ass about the attacks and I'd be amazed if anyone believes that you do.

    My young female relatives that live in the area might disagree with you there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    So many people more concerned with the ethnicity of the attackers than the attack itself. Sickening.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BigJackC wrote: »
    Another rape is being reported as occurring in the area an hour previous. What the hell was going on in Tallaght on Monday?



    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-quiz-boys-as-young-as-14-over-horrific-daylight-rape-of-teenage-girl-34409086.html

    That was mentioned in your own OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wibbs wrote: »
    That was my first thought, that the suspects are underaged themselves so that precludes descriptions, especially if they've other strong leads. And given the high chance of vigilante reactions considering the nature and vileness of the crime they're attempting to keep a lid on that too.

    Around the same area around 20 years ago there was a similar story a girl was gang raped by a gang of lads all with long hair aka rockers within a few days lads with long hair were been given hidings and run of local greens and parks,

    eventually the truth came out the young girl who had claimed she had been gang raped wasn't in fact there was no rape ,the girl in question had been caught having sex in field with a local traveller who happened to be her boyfriend so rather than face her family finding out she cried gang rape .

    In this ccase wonder was there 2 attacks or 1 attack and one totally different situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    It's a resurgence of the Tallaght Band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Mondo123


    This is very very sad. My heart goes out to the young ladies in question. As a woman stories like this naturally make me nervous.

    I don't care who did it so long as they are not let away with it no time for PC crap here! If they are Irish they do the time to suit the crime which should be stiff no matter what age they are! If they are non nationals then I believe they should be deported I don't care if that puts them in danger going back to their own country, they obv didn't care about that while hurting these innocent girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    I bet the OP is frantically pulling the mickey off of himself, waiting for the descriptions.

    Disgusting.
    Careful, you'll be called a rape apologist or some other nonsense in a minute. Me, as I said before, I'm just glad the OP is taking the time to report all the cases of sexual assault that happen daily around the world, without any bias, motive, or agenda. He should be applauded.
    Nodin wrote: »
    aha.

    ahahahahahahaha. ahhh yeah. If you stretch that out into a sketch you could probably get a short slot in the laughter lounge. get yer career started.

    So what are your thoughts on two separate incidents of gang rape in Dublin ?

    I can't seem to find any ****s given through all that ranting and accusation throwing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Find this very interesting.

    If a poster posts something without any proof and attributes blame or behaviour traits to non Irish we have the Outrage Crew have a mickey fit and screaming racist.

    Now we have BigJackC (who may or may not be Irish) post an observation about a serious crime that took place. Feck all mention of race or anything else and the same crew having the same mickey fit.

    Is this perfect hypocrisy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Gatling wrote: »
    Around the same area around 20 years ago there was a similar story a girl was gang raped by a gang of lads all with long hair aka rockers within a few days lads with long hair were been given hidings and run of local greens and parks,

    eventually the truth came out the young girl who had claimed she had been gang raped wasn't in fact there was no rape ,the girl in question had been caught having sex in field with a local traveller who happened to be her boyfriend so rather than face her family finding out she cried gang rape .

    In this ccase wonder was there 2 attacks or 1 attack and one totally different situation

    Well the girl in question had to be treated for her injuries in hospital. I live a stones throw from where it happened and I have a young daughter. I hope these animals are correctly identified and made an example of.

    Can you imagine the headlines if it was a disabled child in Foxrock or Donnybrook that was gangraped in broad daylight rather than Tallaght?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    eviltwin wrote: »
    So many people more concerned with the ethnicity of the attackers than the attack itself. Sickening.

    Well. We have to know if they are a part of our lax migration policy or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Well the girl in question had to be treated for her injuries in hospital. I live a stones throw from where it happened and I have a young daughter. I hope these animals are correctly identified and made an example of.

    Can you imagine the headlines if it was a disabled child in Foxrock or Donnybrook that was gangraped in broad daylight rather than Tallaght?

    the girl has autism is that correct?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I'm about 90% sure that the perps were Irish. Certainly not asylum seekers (we haven't taken that many unlike Europe). Probably white. The stats for tallaght teenagers would suggest white.

    It's interesting that the PC attitude to this was immediately to sneer at the presumed implication in the OP's post that the alleged rapists weren't white. He never spelt that out. He said nothing much. One guy did mention race later because the information wasn't published , but it wouldn't be for teenagers I think.

    So two groups assuming non-whiteness. The overly racist and the overly PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Well. We have to know if they are a part of our lax migration policy or not
    There is nothing in the OP or the report quoted that indicates anything about the ethnicity of any of the suspects. So why have people tried to make it a race or immigration issue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 RadiationKing


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Well. We have to know if they are a part of our lax migration policy or not

    Yeah, who cares about the victim! What we really need is more ammunition against those damn PC liberal do-gooders!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 126 ✭✭Whyohwhy?


    Whilst one gang rape is disturbing enough (regardless of age/intellectual disability/whatever) TWO in the same day, in the same area is fcukin downright scary. Even more so that they are apparently unconnected... Fcukin hell, what the fcuk is going on.
    I hope the little cnuts are correctly identified and found in shallow graves tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Why isn't it? We are looking for a group of white men, we are looking for a group of black men. What's wrong with that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Whyohwhy? wrote: »
    Fcukin hell, what the fcuk is going on.

    I know I beat this drum all the time and get called repetitive for it, but I will happily put money on the eventual culprits being "well known to the Gardai" and having previous convictions for which they served no time.

    Our justice system is f*cked. Too many budding violent criminals get off with a slap on the wrist and leave court feeling emboldened to continue their destructive rampaging.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Mondo123 wrote: »
    This is very very sad. My heart goes out to the young ladies in question. As a woman stories like this naturally make me nervous.

    I don't care who did it so long as they are not let away with it no time for PC crap here! If they are Irish they do the time to suit the crime which should be stiff no matter what age they are! If they are non nationals then I believe they should be deported I don't care if that puts them in danger going back to their own country, they obv didn't care about that while hurting these innocent girls.

    Unfortunately I suspect we'll be disappointed.

    Courtroom sentencing bingo: My money's on either the impoverished childhood, the ambiguous and undiagnosed mental disorder, or the allegedly, unprovenly abusive parents. Anything to prevent scumbags actually facing justice in Ireland.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm about 90% sure that the perps were Irish. Certainly not asylum seekers (we haven't taken that many unlike Europe). Probably white. The stats for tallaght teenagers would suggest white.

    It's interesting that the PC attitude to this was immediately to sneer at the presumed implication in the OP's post that the alleged rapists weren't white. He never spelt that out. He said nothing much. One guy did mention race later because the information wasn't published , but it wouldn't be for teenagers I think.

    So two groups assuming non-whiteness. The overly racist and the overly PC.
    It's not about being PC, but rather the OP has posted almost exclusively on immigrant threads and issues, and most people recognise by now that there is nothing 'presumed' about the implication in the OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    What's happening in Tallaght is what's happening in many other rough areas. The juvenile justice system is too weak to deal with anything more severe than a bit of shoplifting. Youths are copping on to this and, as a result, they are getting more reckless and violent. This is noticeable in areas in Tallaght, Finglas and Ballyfermot.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's not about being PC, but rather the OP has posted almost exclusively on immigrant threads and issues, and most people recognise by now that there is nothing 'presumed' about the implication in the OP

    I'd really hate to believe that anyone is so callous that they'll co-opt the gang rape of young girls to push their racist agenda.

    I'd hate it, but I might not be able to avoid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Yeah, who cares about the victim! What we really need is more ammunition against those damn PC liberal do-gooders!

    I'm sorry for the victim. Do you not think if it turns out to be Syrians or other groups who did this, that this is highlighted. The government need to be asked what they are going to do about it if this turns out to be the case. Well, my gut feeling is it's the feral youth of Tallaght to blame this time. In a few years time, who knows. Might be a few shouts of "Alla Akbar" as crimes are perpetrated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Well the girl in question had to be treated for her injuries in hospital. I live a stones throw from where it happened and I have a young daughter. I hope these animals are correctly identified and made an example of.

    Can you imagine the headlines if it was a disabled child in Foxrock or Donnybrook that was gangraped in broad daylight rather than Tallaght?

    I'm well aware of the attack but I don't believe the second assault is what is been claimed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    What's happening in Tallaght is what's happening in many other rough areas. The juvenile justice system is too weak to deal with anything more severe than a bit of shoplifting. Youths are copping on to this and, as a result, they are getting more reckless and violent. This is noticeable in areas in Tallaght, Finglas and Ballyfermot.

    This. And I'd be willing to bet that with this lesson of impunity learned early in life, a substantial proportion of them will go on to live lives which serve as the inspiration for future series' of Love/Hate. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    I'm sorry for the victim. Do you not think if it turns out to be Syrians or other groups who did this, that this is highlighted.

    Why Syrians or others exactly .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭screamer


    Even if caught there will be no punishment if they are under 18. I feel very sorry for the victims and when we can't walk around in broad daylight and be safe this country has lost the plot.

    The pure audacity of this attack in broad daylight makes me seriously wonder..... but sure IF it turns out to be non nationals it'll be all our fault for not teaching them rape is wrong! (I'm joking)
    Animals is all that are and no matter where they are from or who they are they deserve severe punishment.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 333 ✭✭BigJackC


    It's not about being PC, but rather the OP has posted almost exclusively on immigrant threads and issues, and most people recognise by now that there is nothing 'presumed' about the implication in the OP

    There was no mention of the attackers ethnicity, nationality or immigration status in either the article or my post. It was you people that presumed the attackers are non Irish.

    I posted this thread as gangrapes in broad daylight are an extremely rare and shocking occurrence here. I don't remember reading about one before - nevermind two in an hour.

    That you and your pals immediately thought that the attackers were non Irish and that this was an immigration related thread gives an interesting glimpse into your line of thinking. That says more about you than me.


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