Pyjamas on the school run? Well this Head Teacher doesn't like it..

Lisha · 28-01-2016 09:05PM

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's not the point though is it? The point is that being a mother of young children is stressful in the morning and there's plenty of unforeseen sh*t which can set you back in terms of time.

Which could excuse you wearing nightwear to drop your child to school once a month not every day.
Doing something every day is a habit.

Hammer89 · 28-01-2016 09:13PM

Lisha wrote: »

Which could excuse you wearing nightwear to drop your child to school once a month not every day.
Doing something every day is a habit.

I didn't excuse it if it occurs on a regular basis.

PLL · 28-01-2016 09:14PM

I suffer from depression and have a spinal injury, I manage to get dressed in the morning because I was brought up to have respect.
Anyone that has suffered from depression or has had a back injury will know your motivation isn't particularly high so I could easily roll out of the bed as I am with a perfectly legitimate reason, but I don't because it takes 2 minutes to get dressed.

'Busy with young children in the morning' is a poor poor excuse for lazy. I actually wouldn't judge any moms wearing maybe loungewear that I know a lot of women may wear doing housework.

But slippers? No. Put some fúcking shoes on at least.
As for wearing PJ's to parent/teacher meetings..no one in their right mind can think that is OK.

Means Of Escape · 28-01-2016 09:31PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People should wear whatever they damn well want. We need to move towards a more individual society where people's life choices are not dictated by peer pressure. The concept of "dress sense" is just another form of said peer pressure.

Really?!

darkpagandeath · 28-01-2016 09:43PM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Really?!

https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7gszfRj3l1rb1in7o1_250.gif

Means Of Escape · 28-01-2016 09:45PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People should wear whatever they damn well want. We need to move towards a more individual society where people's life choices are not dictated by peer pressure. The concept of "dress sense" is just another form of said peer pressure.

Really?

Means Of Escape · 28-01-2016 09:49PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7gszfRj3l1rb1in7o1_250.gif

Hah!

Means Of Escape · 28-01-2016 09:51PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

People should wear whatever they damn well want. We need to move towards a more individual society where people's life choices are not dictated by peer pressure. The concept of "dress sense" is just another form of said peer pressure.

Peopleofwalmart.com should change your mind about your statement !

mfceiling · 28-01-2016 09:57PM

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's not the point though is it? The point is that being a mother of young children is stressful in the morning and there's plenty of unforeseen sh*t which can set you back in terms of time.

We'll then do what my missus does...get up 20 mins before she wakens the kids and....get dressed.

Cookie_Monster · 28-01-2016 10:04PM

Principal totally misses the point and should be encouraging parents to stay at home and let their kids walk / cycle / take the bus to school rather than dropping them to the door, not having a moan about what they wear...

maudgonner · 28-01-2016 10:22PM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Peopleofwalmart.com should change your mind about your statement !

Dammit Means! I saw your link, I thought "that will while away a few minutes while I wait for dinner to cook, some harmless fun".

And then I saw this

And now I feel sick

Means Of Escape · 28-01-2016 10:27PM

maudgonner wrote: »

Dammit Means! I saw your link, I thought "that will while away a few minutes while I wait for dinner to cook, some harmless fun".

And then I saw [URL="htwtp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1293.jpg"]this[/URL]

And now I feel sick

My eyes! My eyes!!!

Azalea · 29-01-2016 12:30AM

It kinda seems like some women wear pyjamas in public in order to make a statement or something. E.g. they can be wearing make-up, and wearing their pyjamas in the evenings, so it's not like it's the early morning rush!

I'm kinda torn - ideally people should be able to wear what they like, and I would totally understand a busy mother wearing a pyjamas but just dropping the children off at the school and staying in her car. But out and about, and at school meetings, it's a bit too lazy and slobbish looking and shows a disregard for themselves and those they are meeting - and for their children. As I said, it seems deliberate in those situations, to show that they don't give a sh-t. The alternative does not involve getting groomed to the nines (something I don't understand either when it's not necessary), just a quick shower and putting on jeans/trousers and a top.

Spanish Eyes · 29-01-2016 12:43AM

@Azalea, I agree, I think it's a counter culture thing with those who wear them in inappropriate circumstances. Ok if you are in a rush or overslept or there was a crisis or something, dash out the door in the pjs and drop the kids off, whew! But even in those circumstances I think most people would at least throw on a pair of jeans or leggings and throw on a fleece to cover the pj top. AND WEAR SHOES, not slippers.

But to do it every day, and at school concerts and meetings is giving the finger to those who show some respect to their kids school. It just doesn't seem right to me at all. The worst bit is they go in their slippers or Uggs and a dressing gown too, now that is some statement!

And as for the kids? Well they have to wear a uniform, and it can't be good example to see Mummy just rolling out of bed and dropping them to school dressed like that. Poor kids.

I admire the Head in this case. I know she cannot dictate what people wear, but she is sending out a message of respect and good example for the kids and that is absolutely the right thing to do.

And I see the die hards are already vowing to wear pjs and slippers whatever she says.

Vive La Revolution!

steddyeddy · 29-01-2016 01:03AM

She's dead right but she has no jurisdiction over bad fashion.

hatrickpatrick · 29-01-2016 01:38AM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Really?!

darkpagandeath wrote: »

https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7gszfRj3l1rb1in7o1_250.gif

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Really?

It's like you looked at the gif and then decided that the exclamation mark was overdoing things a bit

hatrickpatrick · 29-01-2016 01:44AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

@Azalea, I agree, I think it's a counter culture thing with those who wear them in inappropriate circumstances. Ok if you are in a rush or overslept or there was a crisis or something, dash out the door in the pjs and drop the kids off, whew! But even in those circumstances I think most people would at least throw on a pair of jeans or leggings and throw on a fleece to cover the pj top. AND WEAR SHOES, not slippers.

But to do it every day, and at school concerts and meetings is giving the finger to those who show some respect to their kids school. It just doesn't seem right to me at all. The worst bit is they go in their slippers or Uggs and a dressing gown too, now that is some statement!

And as for the kids? Well they have to wear a uniform, and it can't be good example to see Mummy just rolling out of bed and dropping them to school dressed like that. Poor kids.

I admire the Head in this case. I know she cannot dictate what people wear, but she is sending out a message of respect and good example for the kids and that is absolutely the right thing to do.

And I see the die hards are already vowing to wear pjs and slippers whatever she says.

Vive La Revolution!

I'd say the statement they're making is more "it's entirely my choice what I wear". I don't particularly understand why anyone supports allowing others to dictate individuals' fashion senses, it's never made sense to me and it never will. The only decent argument I've ever heard in favour of school uniforms is an economic one, in that they prevent kids getting into one-upmanship contests over who has the more expensive branded clothes, but the whole societal aspect of it is something I've just never understood. It's like the massive controversy over Mick Wallace wearing pink shirts in the Dail - personally I don't think it matters if the man turns up to work in a clown suit as long as he actually does his job in terms of making speeches in the public interest and voting on legislation.

It's not so much about society setting too much store by appearances as much as it is about allowing irrelevant criteria to dictate anything. Unless my clothes, hairstyle, shavenness etc are directly relevant to my job (for instance, the wearing of a uniform in the emergency services so that people know who you are and that they can go to you for help) it strikes me as a rather sinister bit of cultural oppression - "you'll dress how we want you to because we're the majority and we say that this is acceptable and this isn't". F*ck that. Each to their own in all things.

Azalea · 29-01-2016 01:52AM

It's the "I'm wearing this to say fuk you!" attitude I dislike.

But just wearing something because you like wearing it, fair enough. E.g. tracksuits in any situation outside of exercising get an awful doing - I don't see a problem with them.

SterlingArcher · 29-01-2016 01:53AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'd say the statement they're making is more "it's entirely my choice what I wear". I don't particularly understand why anyone supports allowing others to dictate individuals' fashion senses, it's never made sense to me and it never will. The only decent argument I've ever heard in favour of school uniforms is an economic one, in that they prevent kids getting into one-upmanship contests over who has the more expensive branded clothes, but the whole societal aspect of it is something I've just never understood. It's like the massive controversy over Mick Wallace wearing pink shirts in the Dail - personally I don't think it matters if the man turns up to work in a clown suit as long as he actually does his job in terms of making speeches in the public interest and voting on legislation.

It's not so much about society setting too much store by appearances as much as it is about allowing irrelevant criteria to dictate anything. Unless my clothes, hairstyle, shavenness etc are directly relevant to my job (for instance, the wearing of a uniform in the emergency services so that people know who you are and that they can go to you for help) it strikes me as a rather sinister bit of cultural oppression - "you'll dress how we want you to because we're the majority and we say that this is acceptable and this isn't". F*ck that. Each to their own in all things.

Ha sticking it to the man.

You wear a white tuxedo to a funeral. And you have won this argument hands down.

Filmer Paradise · 29-01-2016 02:12AM

FFS, I'm not the most dapper man on the planet, but I wouldn't appear downstairs in my house in PJs.

Total laziness at play there. It takes me less than 5 mins for me to get on a jumper, jeans, fleece, jeans, boots & socks.

Also. I can even shave & brush my teeth.

Tell ya. If a bloke like me can do it, what's the story with these people?

Graces7 · 29-01-2016 07:28AM

Fascinating! Last summer when I was trading, I saw a person across the road. Long dark ringlets and wearing what appeared to be a babygro in bright turquoise velour......When he ambled over....his choice entirely but.... I am semi bedbound so live in nightwear often with a warm jersey atop. But on the rare occasion eg An Post need a signature, I add a long skirt or dark kaftan before going out, and never ever go anywhere public unless fully dressed. PJs are for home and bed. It is the kids I feel for; parents can be sooooooooo embarrassing

If you are going among people then yes there has to be some realism about that and some consideration and as others have said and as I know here, takes but a minute.

Figbiscuithead · 29-01-2016 08:25AM

I do agree with the teacher and think it's as easy to get up in the morning and throw on a tracksuit as your PJs. As others have said, it's one thing staying in your car and doing a quick drive-by but attending meetings in your PJs is ridiculous.

I like Ireland's "anything goes", relaxed attitude generally to fashion and I agree that people are within their rights to wear whatever they like as they go about their day-to-day stuff like shopping, walking or whatever but not when it comes to important tasks like the one in question, a bit of cop-on wouldn't go astray - they're not only representing themselves in this case, they're also representing their child.

I'm torn but I STILL don't think the teacher has a right to send the letter out, though. Though I absolutely agree with her opinion wholeheartedly, I think she crossed the line here.

CarrickMcJoe · 29-01-2016 08:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And people blame the mods for sucking the life out of AH.

First page and someone uses a thread about wearing pyjamas to school in the UK, as a way of taking a pop at the oirish gubberment.

Could be worse, they might turn up looking like Mick Wallace!

allibastor · 29-01-2016 11:17AM

God no, it is such a horrible thing to see people out in their pajamas.

Seriously, just get dressed!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 29-01-2016 01:05PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

So I take it you don't believe any dress code is "right" then?

What next, no uniforms for the kids, teachers dressing like knackers too?

School needs to have a form of decency and its clear people don't.

Where did I say anything like that? Just an argument for the sake of it or did you not read it?

The school head cannot dictate what the PARENTS wear. The children and staff are another matter but not what this is about at all.

Frogscotch · 29-01-2016 01:13PM

Is it not a bit smelly to go out in your PJs? Or are they having a wash then putting their PJs back on?

maudgonner · 29-01-2016 01:22PM

Frogscotch wrote: »

Is it not a bit smelly to go out in your PJs? Or are they having a wash then putting their PJs back on?

Nah, I'd say they change into their fancy "going out" PJs.

conorhal · 29-01-2016 01:27PM

'You're not going out looking like that?' used to be the refrain of mothers the country over, never did I think it would be be a comment directed at them rather then from them.
What next? Some 40yr old dropping to the floor and throwing a screaming tantrum at the checkout in Tesco?
Some grownups really need to grow the Feck up....

The Highwayman · 29-01-2016 01:30PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

What a plonker.

She obviously doesnt have kids.

I have a child this does not make me a pleb. Wearing pj's to a school function or for any reason outdoors is lazy in the extreme and shows you have given up to a shocking level. I don't understand how you can defend this.

JaCrispy · 29-01-2016 01:40PM

Only skangers wear pyjamas outside the house. Parents set an example to their kids. Refusing to take care of their appearance sets a bad example.

They're a subclass.

Pyjamas on the school run? Well this Head Teacher doesn't like it..

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