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Wasps v Leinster match thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    You can't honestly believe that?

    I do.

    We played an experimental side against probably the best attacking side in Europe. The senior players would read very much into that. Joe doesn't pick squads on performances put into nothing games. The guys would be very reluctant to bust a gut for this game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Kev McL retired not from concussion related injuries but because he'd enough that he would just start getting them easier and easier.

    Soooo....what you're saying is that it was a concussion related retirement?!

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Having Marsh at 10 for 70 minutes is not ideal but really....51-10?!

    Marsh was a non-entity for his time, for the most part but the rest of the team was pretty much entirely nonchalant in the second half. We were actually in it at half time but when they scored early in the second half, it was curtains and the team just threw in the towel.

    Notable exception was Dave Kearney who was very good again. Fielded high balls well, had one great, scything broken field run and very cleverly offloaded as he was going into touch to keep the ball alive for a Reddan try.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    .ak wrote: »
    I do.

    We played an experimental side against probably the best attacking side in Europe. The senior players would read very much into that. Joe doesn't pick squads on performances put into nothing games. The guys would be very reluctant to bust a gut for this game.

    So Dave Kearney being decent the past two weeks will be ignored by Schmidt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    awec wrote: »
    So Dave Kearney being decent the past two weeks will be ignored by Schmidt?

    Maybe. Dave Kearney being decent the last six months won't be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    awec wrote: »
    So Dave Kearney being decent the past two weeks will be ignored by Schmidt?

    I actually doubt it would be that relevant, I doubt Schmidt has picked his wingers yet and training will determine the starters, it's an incredibly competitive position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    awec wrote: »
    So Dave Kearney being decent the past two weeks will be ignored by Schmidt?

    Form isn't everything, especially when selecting for a different team.

    Dave Kearney has probably been the best wing for the provinces over the past few weeks but I wouldn't be surprised if he misses out on selection all together for Ireland... Because they're a different team, with different tactics and different needs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    .ak wrote: »
    I wouldn't be surprised if he misses out on selection all together for Ireland... Because they're a different team, with different tactics and different needs.

    .....bet he doesn't though!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Buer wrote: »
    Soooo....what you're saying is that it was a concussion related retirement?!

    :D

    what I'm saying is that if you walk backwards around the Hell Fire Club 3 times while saying the word concussion over and over you actually get a concussion yourself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    .ak wrote: »
    I do.

    We played an experimental side against probably the best attacking side in Europe. The senior players would read very much into that. Joe doesn't pick squads on performances put into nothing games. The guys would be very reluctant to bust a gut for this game.

    So you believe ye got hammered because ye'r players thought game today's game was below them?
    I can't bring myself to believe this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    Buer wrote: »
    Whilst I'm not concerned about the goalkicking, hugely, I am concerned about having any outhalf. Sexton's days are numbered, I feel. He took another knock to the head tonight and he cannot take many more. I would think another one or two (which are almost inevitable) and he'll have the decision taken from his hands and have to retire from the game.

    Is there a 'concussion quota'? Tbf he's a young man and you'd like to think his future health would be paramount and the appropriate medical expert would step in to protect him from himself.

    The emergence of Jackson gives Schmidt a good alternative if needed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So you believe ye got hammered because ye'r players thought game today's game was below them?
    I can't bring myself to believe this

    I mean, I dont think the game was below them, but if Leinster's qualification was on the line their performance surely would have been very different


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭ArmchairQB


    digzy wrote: »
    Is there a 'concussion quota'? Tbf he's a young man and you'd like to think his future health would be paramount and the appropriate medical expert would step in to protect him from himself.

    The emergence of Jackson gives Schmidt a good alternative if needed.
    Jackson will hopefully and deservedly get game time during the 6 nation. Sexton's continued concussion injuries are a huge problem for him personally and proffesionaly, I would be very worried for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭aimee1


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So you believe ye got hammered because ye'r players thought game today's game was below them?
    I can't bring myself to believe this

    While the score was still close leinster were in the game but once daly scored the game was up. The lack of meaning in an away game brought a lack of intensity which wasps didnt lack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Buer wrote: »
    .....bet he doesn't though!

    Yeah it's probably a bad example. But my point is the form players aren't always selected for the Ireland XV. Gilroy a great example.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    So you believe ye got hammered because ye'r players thought game today's game was below them?
    I can't bring myself to believe this

    I didn't say that.

    Rugby is a very psychological game.

    Why go out and break yourself for a nothing game? Wasps needed a BP win. The mentality going into the game was vastly different both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    One thing I thought was good tonight was that it was a test for players like Reid and Marsh in terms of the level they need to be at it to make it as a top pro. You don't learn that from Leinster - A games, even some of the pro 12 matches can be deceptive.

    Similarly, it should be clear that Fitz is a better winger than 13.

    Cullen has a better idea where more of his squad are at now.

    Reid has 50 plus caps and if you can't learn in that time then you're not going to. Good going forward but very poor in defence.

    Marsh anytime I've seen him has been fairly useful but yesterday he was poor. He gets a pass because the senior players around him were so awful.

    Big, big worry is Sexton's health. Critical for us but if you're times up then so be it, there's far more to life for a young father.

    Letting Madigan go may bite us badly.


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