Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

dissed doc · 15-01-2016 01:25PM

take everything wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO12X1nhzzk

I can't understand how people deny this when stuff like the above video shows it as plain as day.

This is a big problem. A big cultural problem.

She has too many conflicting attributes for those with fun-size brains to process.

White bad.
Non-white good.
Man bad.
Woman good.
Christian bad.
Islam good.

As a white (bad) christian (bad) woman (good) she is in balance bad.

The attackers are non-white (good) and are Muslim (good), only losing one point because they are men (bad).

So she loses on SJW points, and SJW-thinking means ignore this sex assault. If she was an Islamic or Hindu woman, it would be front page news.

Complex thinking is not required, blanket statements based on race and gender and religion make thinking easier. It's racist, sexist and bigotted but that is how many people are.

Nodin · 15-01-2016 01:35PM

dissed doc wrote: »

She has too many conflicting (................)people are.

Just as a matter of personal interest, is there anything or anyone you wouldn't use as a soapbox for your agenda?

Nodin · 15-01-2016 01:39PM

jmayo wrote: »

This is an example of one of the big issues with the whole "refugee" crisis.
You are immediately dragging in the old sacred cow of "the Syrians".
Even by the stats given by the pro refugee side, the number of Syrians is at most 60% to 70% and that is the refugees coming through Turkey.

Now if you go to anti-refugee side you will find that they state it could be less than 50%.

Half of the migrants and so called refugees have never been in Syria never mind be an actual Syrian.
Look at the camp in Calais, how many of them are Syrian?

Every so often you will find an interview where an actual Syrian in Greece, Croatia, Macedonia will admit that half the ones around them claiming to be Syrian are Turks, Iranians, Afghani, etc, etc.
..................
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So theres no reason for an Afghan or Iranian to be claiming asylum?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 15-01-2016 02:15PM

The idea behind the cover ups is not out of fear of offending any party, but fear of overwhelming reprisals. After watching that video (I wish I hadn't), I believe the reprisals will be exactly that, overwhelming.

Nodin · 15-01-2016 02:20PM

Conor Ambitious Twin wrote: »

The idea behind the cover ups is not out of fear of offending any party, but fear of overwhelming reprisals. After watching that video (I wish I hadn't), I believe the reprisals will be exactly that, overwhelming.

...which video...?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 15-01-2016 02:22PM

Nodin wrote: »

...which video...?

Sorry, I think somebody made a referrence to it at the start of the thread. It's about a poor woman getting assaulted in Cologne on NYE, she gets dragged into a subway by a huge group of men. It's absolutely sickening.

LDN_Irish · 15-01-2016 02:23PM

Conor Ambitious Twin wrote: »

Sorry, I think somebody made a referrence to it at the start of the thread. It's about a poor woman getting assaulted in Cologne on NYE, she gets dragged into a subway by a huge group of men. It's absolutely sickening.

That's a video of Tahrir Square. It is horrific all the same.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 15-01-2016 02:30PM

LDN_Irish wrote: »

That's a video of Tahrir Square. It is horrific all the same.

No, the video I described was about a woman in Cologne only that was assaulted by a large group of men only 16 days ago...

LDN_Irish · 15-01-2016 02:35PM

Conor Ambitious Twin wrote: »

No, the video I described was about a woman in Cologne only that was assaulted by a large group of men only 16 days ago...

I'm 100% sure that the video you've described has been mislabelled as Cologne when it's really a Dutch journalist in Tahrir Square, Egypt. Check the background, the graffiti is in Arabic. Which wouldn't be proof in and of itself I suppose, but if you google "tahrir square dutch journalist" ad go to videos you'll find the very same video you've described as the third option and it was originally posted a couple of years ago.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 15-01-2016 04:10PM

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I'm 100% sure that the video you've described has been mislabelled as Cologne when it's really a Dutch journalist in Tahrir Square, Egypt. Check the background, the graffiti is in Arabic. Which wouldn't be proof in and of itself I suppose, but if you google "tahrir square dutch journalist" ad go to videos you'll find the very same video you've described as the third option and it was originally posted a couple of years ago.

Ok, I don't trust any headings on any videos anymore.

jmayo · 15-01-2016 04:35PM

Nodin wrote: »

So theres no reason for an Afghan or Iranian to be claiming asylum?

But you keep telling us they are Syrians :eek:

What else are you not telling us ?

Dravokivich · 15-01-2016 04:45PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why aren't safe areas being created in Syria for the people impacted by ISIS. This should be Assad's priority.

As many people have pointed out there is no point sending them to a foreign culture Europe. Young men in their 20s are of Conscription age, why are they fleeing the conflict? Surely a man stands up and fights for his people and country?

They used to kill deserters during the Great War.

Assad's priority is trying to retain any control he possibly can in syria. He doesn't give a damn about about anyone else but himself.

Nodin · 15-01-2016 04:46PM

jmayo wrote: »

But you keep telling us they are Syrians :eek:

What else are you not telling us ?

I've never stated they were all Syrians. I have said that it was possible for people with some experience to tell a Syrian from an Iraqi or an Afghan certainly.

JPNelsforearm · 15-01-2016 04:55PM

<mod snip>I've left everything that is to do with Sweden...which is nothing</mod ship>

Nodin · 16-01-2016 12:37AM

biko wrote: »

.......................

They even go so far as to "white pixel" photos. This means they use light pixling so a black person appears white. Examples:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/ace0390dad44f8e91cd71714d92f226c/tumblr_mymi8zB8Ut1s87hito6_r1_540.jpg
https://cdn2.cdnme.se/cdn/6-2/1473096/images/2010/vitpixling_85301244.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/bb554a005522ec22f2238b86f9ff2dde/tumblr_mymi8zB8Ut1s87hito9_1280.jpg
http://36.media.tumblr.com/40dbca80d83371c787069f6f4d56580e/tumblr_mymi8zB8Ut1s87hito3_r1_1280.jpg

Other than pictures off tumblr, do you have a source for that?

biko · 16-01-2016 01:04AM

This is from an interview in one of the 2 biggest tabliods. Thomas Mattsson is editor in chief.
http://www.expressen.se/administration/thomas-mattsson-chattade-om-kriminaljournalistik/

google translation

Gurkan : I saw a case where a Swedish newspaper had retouched skin color of a " criminal " so that he looked like he had white skin color. Is not that a serious journalistic misstep , and how strong reactions we had not seen for a newspaper had done the opposite. But here let other newspapers the last without any reaction whatsoever . Stuff damages the credibility of you.

Thomas Mattsson : So -called " vitpixling " should not appear in the media , I believe . I was editor of Expressen 11 March 2009 , and since then we have a policy of not " vitpixla " .

So there you have it. A editor in chief says "we don't white pixel any more".

And please don't let your response be "well, his paper says they've stopped now. That's good isn't it?"

Nodin · 16-01-2016 01:49AM

biko wrote: »

And please don't let your response be "well, his paper says they've stopped now. That's good isn't it?"

"They"?

One paper?
"
White pixelization (Swedish: vitpixling) is a form of digital pixelization claimed primarily by right-wing groups to be of widespread use in Swedish media. According to this notion, it is common that faces of non-white offenders are digitally lightened before the image is pixelized or blurred in order not to reveal the persons ethnic origin. This is thought of as a kind of censorship with the goal of not revealing relations between Swedish immigration policy and the criminal activities of immigrants./COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]1[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc The idea that white pixelization is used by the Swedish media is a well-spread notion in Swedish far right communities and papers, as well as web sites such as Metapedia./COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]2[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc
Editor in chief for the newspaper Expressen, Thomas Mattsson has confirmed that white pixelization was earlier performed by Expressen and that it was "possibly correct in a press-ethical sense", but that it has been policy since he became editor in chief (in 2009) not to use the method./COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]3[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc /COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]4[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc In 2011, editor in chief for Aftonbladet, Jan Helin, said his paper had never done it,/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]1[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc and called the idea a conspiracy theory."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pixelization

What sites you been hanging round Biko?

Ulysses Gaze · 16-01-2016 02:02AM

Conor Ambitious Twin wrote: »

The idea behind the cover ups is not out of fear of offending any party, but fear of overwhelming reprisals. After watching that video (I wish I hadn't), I believe the reprisals will be exactly that, overwhelming.

And a very real fear of the Far Right Wing making enormous political capital out of it.....

BigJackC · 16-01-2016 07:37AM

Who wants this sh*t here. Teenagers not being able to go to swimming pools for fear of being mauled and pawed by people who think they are like hookers.

The stupidity and arrogance of Merkel and her followers is breathtaking.

Annasopra · 16-01-2016 08:53AM

BigJackC wrote: »

Who wants this sh*t here. Teenagers not being able to go to swimming pools for fear of being mauled and pawed by people who think they are like hookers.

The stupidity and arrogance of Merkel and her followers is breathtaking.

Thats just ridiculous. Your basic premise is that anyone who supports immigration or refugees supports child abuse.

Potatoeman · 16-01-2016 01:05PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Thats just ridiculous. Your basic premise is that anyone who supports immigration or refugees supports child abuse.

Actions have consequences. The result of the mass immigration was mass sexual assaults. You know the old saying 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions'.

ancapailldorcha · 16-01-2016 01:07PM

Potatoeman wrote: »

Actions have consequences. The result of the mass immigration was mass sexual assaults. You know the old saying 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions'.

And what about the vast majority of immigrants who obey the law?

Potatoeman · 16-01-2016 01:20PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

And what about the vast majority of immigrants who obey the law?

Would you say that to the women that were sexually assaulted on NYE? It's a very high price for your citizens to pay and citizens should be any governments primary concern.

Certain cultures have incompatible values with western values. These people had very little integration into western society. You just need to look at the prevailing attitudes in the regions they came from. Even look at the attitudes of many existing second generation immigrants from these regions.

dissed doc · 16-01-2016 01:39PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

And what about the vast majority of immigrants who obey the law?

They will probably suffer because our political elites wanted completely open borders, instead of controlled and sustainable immigration from people who can integrate well (that goes for any religion or race).

We all lose when violently insane politicians and violent aggressive immigrants get to ruin society for regular people and regular immigrants.

And when people feel they are no longer "needed" democratically or demographically by these politicians, they lash out because they are recognising that reasoned debate is refused.

Just like in a house fire, the person who shouts for help the loudest is probably fine, but the ones not shouting coule be dying of smoke inhalation. The immigrants that shout the loudest - demanding housing, money, freedom to sexually assault minors, are an occupying army stomping over the potential immigrants that are too scared to say anything. Rather than public voting per council district we have rushed legislation in secret by Joan Burton and her friends.

To have fair and transparent Immigration that benefits the host citizens and immigrants, we need democratic and transparent screening of everyone, case by case basis. No army of violent youths, no rule by despotic politicians.

Black and Blue15 · 16-01-2016 01:52PM

BigJackC wrote: »

Who wants this sh*t here. Teenagers not being able to go to swimming pools for fear of being mauled and pawed by people who think they are like hookers.

The stupidity and arrogance of Merkel and her followers is breathtaking.

But it's just their culture! Why shouldn't they be allowed molest girls? Are you a racist?

Ken. · 16-01-2016 01:56PM

Mod-Last warning. Keep it to Sweden or this will be locked

LogicusRex · 16-01-2016 02:51PM

Enough is Enough wrote: »

Migrants have been raping Swedish women for years and the establishment has been covering it up. The British covered up the mass rape of English girls by Pakistanis. The Germans did their level best to cover up what happened on New Years Eve. How do societies become this sick?

I recall a story from New Zealand. A tertiary institution was running courses for "those less fortunate". Not in this case migrants. There were instances of "students" urinating on the classroom floor if they couldn't be bothered walking to the jax. People were getting mugged in the carpark and one lecturer couldn't start his car because the starter motor had been stolen. The administration wouldn't concede that any of this was happening.

It is an unfortunate trait of left wing liberals, a group over represented in education and the media, that if reality conflicts with their world view reality has got it wrong. Anybody who dares point out the screamingly obvious is racist/classist/elitist/you name it - ist. Sweden is a classic example.

That is not totally how the world got so sick but it sure aint helping.

edgecutter · 16-01-2016 03:03PM

I just don't understand why we are taking these animals in droves. We would be far better off sending finical aid to these people (who are in need)then letting them in and live off the state.

Furthermore, laws need to be brought in for these people. If you rape, no prison, no fines, but just simply tell them 'your OUT!'.

Hopefully we will never see this here and more importantly we need to stop muslims opening up their own schools spreading their propaganda to their youth.

.45auto · 16-01-2016 03:30PM

edgecutter wrote: »

I just don't understand why we are taking these animals in droves. We would be far better off sending finical aid to these people (who are in need)then letting them in and live off the state.

Furthermore, laws need to be brought in for these people. If you rape, no prison, no fines, but just simply tell them 'your OUT!'.

Hopefully we will never see this here and more importantly we need to stop muslims opening up their own schools spreading their propaganda to their youth.

We are taking 4000. So YAY cultural enrichment for everyone

JPCN1 · 16-01-2016 04:02PM

.45auto wrote: »

We are taking 4000. So YAY cultural enrichment for everyone

The situation in Syria will improve soon, especially if the West stops backing the enemies of Assad. Then the 4000 can go home.

Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

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