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Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

  • 11-01-2016 5:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭


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    LONDON — The police in Sweden, responding to accusations of a cover-up, said on Monday that they were investigating why the public had not been informed about sexual assault by men reported to be migrants at a festival in Stockholm last summer.

    Translated on Reddit from a Swedish Newspaper as a comment from the police chief in charge: "It's a sensitive topic, sometimes we don't dare to say things as they are because we're afraid that it plays into the hands of the Swedish Democrats (populist right-wing). We have to take responsibility within the police-force." Original

    Absolutely disgusting. Is Europe gone completely left all of a sudden? Covering up sexual abuse just so the right-wing doesn't have something to complain about?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    You don't have to be "right wing" to find this abhorrent. Countries like Sweden, Germany et al have really created a proper mess for themselves. I'm just sad that innocent people, mainly women, will pay the price for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Swedish mates say it's been like that for years just not reported due to Wracists angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Anyone see that 21 second clip of young German women been dragged by dozens of men to be raped in Cologne?

    I swear it's been long time since I have been this upset about a clip.

    I'm angry, I'm angry that this has been brushed aside. I'm angry this has been considered a once off. I'm angry that the rapist will get slap on the wrist. I'm angry that Feminist groups consider this just from a small minority, I'm angry that Liberal countries like Sweden, Finland and Germany are now full of sick bastard willing to threat woman like meat.

    I'll always remember a good friend say to me that "the only person more dangerous then right wing nut job, is a left liberal who will let bad things happen"

    I stress to the Mods not to shut this down.

    Sweden needs to be talked about
    Germany needs to be talked about
    Finland needs be talked about

    Cause if we don't get our act together it's only matter of time before Ireland will be get way to gang rape of a disturbing scale.

    By hey, it's me that's the **** some will say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    Pretty sure we're already not allowed talk about this here. Or won't be in about 100 posts or less.
    Depends if this is deemed too similar to the verboten "fun night out, mostly peaceful" antics in Germany.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    The same lesson again and again: cover ups always, always make things worse. Investigate and prosecute. The truth actually does set people free.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 333 ✭✭BigJackC


    If you're covering up mass sexual abuse and assault to protect your ideology from criticism, then your ideology is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Anyone see that 21 second clip of young German women been dragged by dozens of men to be raped in Cologne?

    I swear it's been long time since I have been this upset about a clip.

    I'm angry, I'm angry that this has been brushed aside. I'm angry this has been considered a once off. I'm angry that the rapist will get slap on the wrist. I'm angry that Feminist groups consider this just from a small minority, I'm angry that Liberal countries like Sweden, Finland and Germany are now full of sick bastard willing to threat woman like meat.

    I'll always remember a good friend say to me that "the only person more dangerous then right wing nut job, is a left liberal who will let bad things happen"

    I stress to the Mods not to shut this down.

    Sweden needs to be talked about
    Germany needs to be talked about
    Finland needs be talked about

    Cause if we don't get our act together it's only matter of time before Ireland will be get way to gang rape of a disturbing scale.

    By hey, it's me that's the **** some will say.

    That clip was from Tahir Square in Egypt as far as I know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    FTA69 wrote: »
    That clip was from Tahir Square in Egypt as far as I know?

    Those lovely MB lads ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    BigJackC wrote: »
    If you're covering up mass sexual abuse and assault to protect your ideology from criticism, then your ideology is wrong.
    It's only wrong when the catholic church does it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Why is anyone surprised about this?

    Huge numbers of young men from backrounds where women don't have much respect are not suddenly going to treat 'uncovered' women from the west with respect. Oh no, what I have said doesn't fit the liberal pc bull**** agenda someone somewhere will be offended! Small numbers can intergrate espicially if they move here under normal(and legal) circumstances but vast numbers of illegal immigrants are not going to intergrate. Unfortunately the repercussions of the current liberal fantasies will be felt for many years to come.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Why is anyone surprised about this?

    Huge numbers of young men from backrounds where women don't have much respect are not suddenly going to treat 'uncovered' women from the west with respect. Oh no, what I have said doesn't fit the liberal pc bull**** agenda someone somewhere will be offended! Small numbers can intergrate espicially if they move here under normal(and legal) circumstances but vast numbers of illegal immigrants are not going to intergrate. Unfortunately the repercussions of the current liberal fantasies will be felt for many years to come.

    But they are doctors, engineers, Teacher Highly literate..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    FTA69 wrote: »
    That clip was from Tahir Square in Egypt as far as I know?

    Havent seen it but if its the one you mean wasn't it a journalist who was groped and attached by a gang on Muslim brotherhood thugs ?

    On the whole it really is past time that westerners as a whole spit out the liberal leftism that is leading us down the path of not defending our own culture for fear of offending some one elses culture.

    I believe that multiculturalism is a positive influence it will cost us our own culture

    Some areas of London and Birmingham in the UK is a simple example of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    But they are doctors, engineers, Teacher Highly literate..

    You bring up one of the biggest myths that the liberals love to spout.

    If someone was a fully qualified doctor, why wouldn't they apply for a visa to work in the UK for a NHS that's short on staff like so many already do instead of illegally entering European countries?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    But they are doctors, engineers, Teacher Highly literate..

    What ? all of them ? Must have been wall to wall upper middle class in that part of the world.

    (My sarcasm detector may be faulty )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    FTA69 wrote: »
    That clip was from Tahir Square in Egypt as far as I know?

    I suppose me if anybody should know never to take anything as fact, as I keep telling everyone else

    If it is from Egypt it does not change fact that woman are treated like meat for many men.

    Her screams are of a poor hunan in need of help and nobody seems to care.

    It would not bother me if I was a minority within my country, once people could walk down Street knowing that they are pretty safe of not being molested and nothing done about it.

    Thanks for pointing out where clip might be from though, will look into that if can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    " If 10,000 snakes were coming down that aisle now, and I had a door that I could shut, and in that 10,000, 1,000 meant right, 1,000 rattlesnakes didn't want to bite me, I knew they were good... Should I let all these rattlesnakes come down, hoping that that thousand get together and form a shield? Or should I just close the door and stay safe? "

    Mohammed Ali

    Regarding the Attacks...

    One thing I do not understand is how no one appears to have physically aided many of the victims?

    When I was a child I was going to the shops with my little sister when a man tried to grab her so I've some kind of yardstick to judge how I'd react. At a festival or new years eve celebration there would be many strong tough people - how come none of the attackers were picking up their teeth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    " If 10,000 snakes were coming down that aisle now, and I had a door that I could shut, and in that 10,000, 1,000 meant right, 1,000 rattlesnakes didn't want to bite me, I knew they were good... Should I let all these rattlesnakes come down, hoping that that thousand get together and form a shield? Or should I just close the door and stay safe? "

    Mohammed Ali

    Regarding the Attacks...

    One thing I do not understand is how no one appears to have physically aided many of the victims?

    When I was a child I was going to the shops with my little sister when a man tried to grab her so I've some kind of yardstick to judge how I'd react. At a festival or new years eve celebration there would be many strong tough people - how come none of the attackers were picking up their teeth?

    Because a white person punching a brown person in self defence would be Wracist....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 333 ✭✭BigJackC


    Can you imagine how angry you would feel if you, or one of your family or friends, was sexually abused or beaten up and the media didn't report on it as they didn't want the general public to look upon the perpetrators unfavourably.

    I would be livid. It's a smack in the face of the victims. Ironically, by trying to cover up what happened in Stockholm, Cologne etc so as to not raise tensions, the media have done the opposite. The truth always gets out in the end. Especially in the digital world we live in today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭.45auto


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    What ? all of them ? Must have been wall to wall upper middle class in that part of the world.

    (My sarcasm detector may be faulty )

    Also germany is saying only 2.5 percent of them have any form of education


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It's no different to the way the abuse of children by the church, high profile media figures etc were hidden. We are shocked and disgusted by that and the media went to town moralizing about the cover ups and now the same thing is happening all over again. Have we learned nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Because a white person punching a brown person in self defence would be Wracist....

    No way it is that simple. Anyone , man or woman, believe they wouldn't help their own in that situation? I am not saying it did not happen that way - simply that I cannot understand it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    Migrants have been raping Swedish women for years and the establishment has been covering it up. The British covered up the mass rape of English girls by Pakistanis. The Germans did their level best to cover up what happened on New Years Eve. How do societies become this sick?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Impossible. Impossible to integrate all these. Not educated enough and just not westernised enough and you can't change that.

    I don't think these immigrants want to integrate either. By the looks of it many want to get involved in petty crime and the occasional sex attack here or there. And the chances of them being arrested are slim and deported slimmer still. Many of them I doubt haven't come here looking for a 9-5 job.

    I feel sympathy for Syrian refuges, but not for the North African migrants who will only bring trouble.

    Well done Merkel, long after you are enjoying your big pension and cushy directorship on some big board, Germany and young women in particular will be dealing with what you left behind.

    Also, does anyone think many of these north African male migrants were saved by the Irish navy and helped ashore in Europe? Surely this is the real issue. They shouldn't be brought ashore if they are from North Africa, they should be dropped off back where they came from. I hate to think the Irish navy helped in this problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    " If 10,000 snakes were coming down that aisle now, and I had a door that I could shut, and in that 10,000, 1,000 meant right, 1,000 rattlesnakes didn't want to bite me, I knew they were good... Should I let all these rattlesnakes come down, hoping that that thousand get together and form a shield? Or should I just close the door and stay safe? "

    Mohammed Ali

    Regarding the Attacks...

    One thing I do not understand is how no one appears to have physically aided many of the victims?

    When I was a child I was going to the shops with my little sister when a man tried to grab her so I've some kind of yardstick to judge how I'd react. At a festival or new years eve celebration there would be many strong tough people - how come none of the attackers were picking up their teeth?

    Years liberalism and self loathing have left German men weak and powerless. A hundred years ago the men would have come out with knives and guns and and lynched the rapists.Today they are too spineless to do anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    BigJackC wrote: »
    Can you imagine how angry you would feel if you, or one of your family or friends, was sexually abused or beaten up and the media didn't report on it as they didn't want the general public to look upon the perpetrators unfavourably.

    I would be livid. It's a smack in the face of the victims. Ironically, by trying to cover up what happened in Stockholm, Cologne etc so as to not raise tensions, the media have done the opposite. The truth always gets out in the end. Especially in the digital world we live in today.

    It happens all the time in Egypt and it goes unreported. Life is hell for women in Egypt, groped, attacked, intimidated. Now we have North Africa's finest walking around Europe, doing the same thing here. All thanks to open borders and organisations like the UN encouraging us to take everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭.45auto


    It happens all the time in Egypt and it goes unreported. Life is hell for women in Egypt, groped, attacked, intimidated. Now we have North Africa's finest walking around Europe, doing the same thing here. All thanks to open borders and organisations like the UN encouraging us to take everyone.

    Diversity for europe but diversity for any other continent is racist


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    Thank God for the alternative media. Anyone who believes what the mainstream media tells you is a fool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Malcolm600f


    They will make no friends in Europe carrying on like that..
    Lets hope the ones we get coming here do not carry on in the same manner I would hate people in Dublin and other towns and citys that make them feel welcome be subjected to that..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    They will make no friends in Europe carrying on like that..
    Lets hope the ones we get coming here do not carry on in the same manner I would hate people in Dublin and other towns and citys that make them feel welcome be subjected to that..

    No reason it won't happen in Ireland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Lefties. This is what you wanted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Have we gone full circle with leftists/liberals covering up sexual abuse now?

    We need a central approach middle ground. Operation common sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Thank God for the alternative media. Anyone who believes what the mainstream media tells you is a fool.

    Is that due to the Lizard people controlling the MSM ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Is that due to the Lizard people controlling the MSM ?

    Fecking idiotic post. We all know it's the illuminati and their alliance with the Licans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Malcolm600f


    No reason it won't happen in Ireland.

    I totally agree and in fact the chances are very high it will going by current trends in Europe..
    I was just not wanting to sound like i was discriminating against all refugees because of whats happening ,, Maybe them other countries were just unlucky getting bad ones..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    Is that due to the Lizard people controlling the MSM ?

    Why did the German media cover up what happened? Why does the Swedish cover what's happening in Sweden?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I don't understand the accusation of cover up. Is it standard in these countries for police to inform people of a sexual assault? I would think it isn't. Or is it an allegation that they were not investigating?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    I totally agree and in fact the chances are very high it will going by current trends in Europe..
    I was just not wanting to sound like i was discriminating against all refugees because of whats happening ,, Maybe them other countries were just unlucky getting bad ones..

    Y-Yeah I'm sure we'll get the good ones...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Why did the German media cover up what happened? Why does the Swedish cover what's happening in Sweden?

    Yet we know it happened....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    FTA69 wrote: »
    That clip was from Tahir Square in Egypt as far as I know?

    Ah thats okay so?
    Scratches head.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 Enough is Enough


    Yet we know it happened....

    Took the German media about 4 days to talk about it. We only know about it because it got too big to hide. You really think the Guardian wants to talk about this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    Surprising amount of police corruption in Europe it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    BigJackC wrote: »
    If you're covering up mass sexual abuse and assault to protect your ideology from criticism, then your ideology is wrong.

    |We got a lot of stick for what happened in Ireland, rightfully so.
    It just seems that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Rotheram is probably the worst every, cops and child protective services knew all about it, and all happening in the modern age. Where did they learn to be quiet like that? I can "kind of" understand WRT to catholic ireland and confronting the priesthood was a huge uphill battle based on centuries of entrenched power.
    Not so in UK, Germany, Sweden etc etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    .45auto wrote: »
    Also germany is saying only 2.5 percent of them have any form of education

    Aye seems more realistic alright.

    Groups of young males from slums or hill farms let loose in a foreign country with little or no consequences.

    Seems to be like a huge party for some of those lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    I don't understand the accusation of cover up. Is it standard in these countries for police to inform people of a sexual assault? I would think it isn't. Or is it an allegation that they were not investigating?

    What the sexual assault is committed by people who have arrived in the past year, with plans to take in another 2+ million of these people this year, it's absolutely newsworthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    psinno wrote: »
    Surprising amount of police corruption in Europe it seems

    We have it here. Why should Europe be any different. #DonegalCops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Anyone see that 21 second clip of young German women been dragged by dozens of men to be raped in Cologne?

    I swear it's been long time since I have been this upset about a clip.

    I'm angry, I'm angry that this has been brushed aside. I'm angry this has been considered a once off. I'm angry that the rapist will get slap on the wrist. I'm angry that Feminist groups consider this just from a small minority, I'm angry that Liberal countries like Sweden, Finland and Germany are now full of sick bastard willing to threat woman like meat.

    I'll always remember a good friend say to me that "the only person more dangerous then right wing nut job, is a left liberal who will let bad things happen"

    I stress to the Mods not to shut this down.

    Sweden needs to be talked about
    Germany needs to be talked about
    Finland needs be talked about

    Cause if we don't get our act together it's only matter of time before Ireland will be get way to gang rape of a disturbing scale.

    By hey, it's me that's the **** some will say.

    As mentioned already, that clip isn't from Cologne. I totally agree with everything else you say though. We need to have a balanced discussion about this and not be accused of being far right wing racists if we think that cultural issues have something to do with it. It's sickening they way this discussion is being shut down, and the coverage or lack thereof in the mainstream media has been disgusting.

    One thread in here about the Cologne attacks was already shut down. It's definitely something that needs to be discussed but I'm not sure if we are even allowed to in After Hours, which is probably the busiest most visible forum on this site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Malcolm600f


    There is alot of chat that these videos are not true .Well i guess within the next year or so we will have a better idea when we start housing the refugees here.. I really hope for the safety of people what is happening around Europe is not as shown..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Drakares wrote: »
    What the sexual assault is committed by people who have arrived in the past year, with plans to take in another 2+ million of these people this year, it's absolutely newsworthy.

    Are they from the same town or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    Aye seems more realistic alright.

    Groups of young males from slums or hill farms let loose in a foreign country with little or no consequences.

    Seems to be like a huge party for some of those lads

    A bit like Ibiza Uncovered!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    I don't understand the accusation of cover up. Is it standard in these countries for police to inform people of a sexual assault? I would think it isn't. Or is it an allegation that they were not investigating?

    Would think it would be standard practice in a Free Country for the Free Press to report multiple attacks at a single Event.

    No way you'd accept that if that amount of attacks happened at Christ Church in Dublin and it wasn't reported.At least no way most Irish people would accept it. Seems Most German's don't accept it not being reported when it happened there


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