Sex dolls for paedophiles

JupiterKid · 16-01-2016 12:16AM

I think that whilst the motive behind such a sex toy might be honourable - to get people with paedophile tendencies to engage with these objects as opposed to real children - they may just end up in whetting the paedophile's appetite for more.

Not a great idea really. Paedophiles need help and to be kept well away from children.

16-01-2016 12:16AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

You can be sure that local postman and couriers have a giggle and a chat about some of the orders they have to deliver.
Can you imagine if they have to bring one of these ****ing sick creations to Mary or Tom at No10.
Wouldn't be long before the whole town would be having a good auld chinwag about it and everything else that would ensue.
Horrible product and poorly thought out to boot.

I find it hard to imagine it being sent in a package labelled ""paedo doll" or the like, as far as postie is concerned, it's a parcel that weighs (whatever) and it's addressed to X at Y in Z so he has to go to the end of the alphabet to deliver it.

miece16 · 16-01-2016 12:19AM

Tigger wrote: »

I'ts illegal to depict a person as underage in media
Dolls are media
They want to fcuk kids

I don't want them to so put them in gaol

dolls are media? what the hell are you on about?

are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Canadel · 16-01-2016 12:28AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Not a great idea really. Paedophiles need help and to be kept well away from children.

Just because a person is a paedophile does not mean they can't control their sexual urges. Not all paedophiles are necessarily child molesters.

LETHAL LADY · 16-01-2016 12:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I find it hard to imagine it being sent in a package labelled ""paedo doll" or the like, as far as postie is concerned, it's a parcel that weighs (whatever) and it's addressed to X at Y in Z so he has to go to the end of the alphabet to deliver it.

Obviously not

, but you'd be fairly naive to think they wouldn't know about, shall we say, about the more unusual items they deliver. It has more to do with the origin than the destination so I've been led to believe.

16-01-2016 12:32AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Obviously not , but you'd be fairly naive to think they wouldn't know about, shall we say, about the more unusual items they deliver. It has more to do with the origin than the destination so I've been led to believe.

Unless it had a return address of "Paedo dolls Ltd" on it, I doubt that they'll have a clue.
The only couriers who would have a clue would be those who collect from the warehouse.

esforum · 16-01-2016 12:38AM

Whos gonna buy em? Your admitting to being a paedo.

Then again, whos gonna stock them? Paedophiles arent exactly the clientel you want nor will catering for them do your business any favours

Having looked at the image, nope. Its not gonna stop child abuse, merely be a stop on the way or worse yet, temptation for those that resist the urge

esforum · 16-01-2016 12:39AM

Canadel wrote: »

Just because a person is a paedophile does not mean they can't control their sexual urges. Not all paedophiles are necessarily child molesters.

they still shouldnt be near children. Not all alcoholics still drink but you dont see many in the boozer

PizzamanIRL · 16-01-2016 12:44AM

Thanks OP, now I have 'sex dolls for paedophiles' in my internet history.

R.D. aka MR.D · 16-01-2016 12:45AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You are right. It wouldn't stop paedophilic impulses but it possibly may contain them. The doll becomes the focus for their pleasure rather than a child. Paedophilia, while abhorrent to right minded people, is very complex. Some despise themselves for how they feel and will try anything to overcome their urges. Other's have no such qualms and will act out. It can't be cured only managed. There is an argument for it to be viewed as another type of sexuality.

I believe that chemical castration has proved quite good at reducing the urges etc. So I don't know why if some one was trying to control their urges and had the 14k that they wouldn't go for that option.

But as you say, plenty just go with it and don't have a problem with their desires.

Saying that, I've seen all sorts of sick crap in Japan. Somebody must be buying it.

LETHAL LADY · 16-01-2016 12:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Unless it had a return address of "Paedo dolls Ltd" on it, I doubt that they'll have a clue.
The only couriers who would have a clue would be those who collect from the warehouse.

Most large items from unusual destinations are scanned through customs are they not?
As are the larger items coming through the sort centre in Portlaoise for An Post I'd think?
Now if it was a container load going through a private courier I'd agree they'd get through unnoticed, but I doubt this would be the case for such a horrible item.
I'm talking about small town Ireland here by the way.

The Sidewards Man · 16-01-2016 12:46AM

If they are molesting dolls they will molest the real thing, sick cnuts.

16-01-2016 12:49AM

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

I believe that chemical castration has proved quite good at reducing the urges etc. So I don't know why if some one was trying to control their urges and had the 14k that they wouldn't go for that option.

But as you say, plenty just go with it and don't have a problem with their desires.

Saying that, I've seen all sorts of sick crap in Japan. Somebody must be buying it.

You are right about chemical castration. Does it only take away the physical urge though? I mean the mind, the pathology, they must stay the same. I don't think there is an answer unfortunately.

Balmed Out · 16-01-2016 12:50AM

terrible idea, id presume all it would do is make them want a child more and normalize it in their head.

Canadel · 16-01-2016 12:50AM

esforum wrote: »

they still shouldnt be near children. Not all alcoholics still drink but you dont see many in the boozer

Heterosexual men shouldn't be allowed near women either I suppose?

.45auto · 16-01-2016 12:52AM

Na this is enabling behaviour. We are saying "you cant have sex with children but you can have sex with the next best thing" whether we like to admit it or not if you have sexual thoughts about kids you are mentally ill. Theres no fix for whats wrong with them

16-01-2016 12:52AM

Canadel wrote: »

Heterosexual men shouldn't be allowed near women either I suppose?

So by that logic do you believe paedophilia to be another type of sexuality?

Easca Peasca · 16-01-2016 12:52AM

I'd be very much against the idea.

It's facilitating the needs and wants of a sick mind. Individuals with the disorder should not be facilitated, they should be monitored and every possible obstacle put in place between them and a young person.

Give them a doll to be at and you've knocked the first domino.

PucaMama · 16-01-2016 12:56AM

This is disgusting.

JupiterKid · 16-01-2016 01:00AM

Canadel wrote: »

Just because a person is a paedophile does not mean they can't control their sexual urges. Not all paedophiles are necessarily child molesters.

I'm well aware of that. But is is common sense to try to keep paedophiles away from children.

16-01-2016 01:02AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. But is is common sense to try to keep paedophiles away from children.

It is, but they usually have to commit the crime to be proven paedophiles.

Fr_Dougal · 16-01-2016 01:09AM

Kind of reminds me of the way heroin users are given methadone. Still very creepy.

ceadaoin. · 16-01-2016 01:19AM

Canadel wrote: »

Heterosexual men shouldn't be allowed near women either I suppose?

Only if you think that heterosexual men are all rapists?

For a paedophile, any expression of their desires is abuse and rape. If they really don't want to harm children then they should take steps not to be around any.

Medusa22 · 16-01-2016 01:19AM

I do have a lot of empathy for paedophiles who have these urges but would never act on them and wish that they didn't have them. It must be a very difficult thing to deal with, and most likely alone considering how society vilifies them.

My natural reaction is to find the dolls very disturbing. If a study was done and the dolls were proven to help prevent paedophiles from offending then I would advocate using them, better a doll than a child. The concern with these dolls though is that we don't know if they aggravate desires rather than help to suppress them. I'd also advocate the use of cartoon child porn in treating paedophiles but only if it was proven in a study to help prevent offending.

Canadel · 16-01-2016 01:24AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It is, but they usually have to commit the crime to be proven paedophiles.

To be proven child molesters. And a child molester is not necessarily a paedophile. Nor is a paedophile automatically a child molester.

Canadel · 16-01-2016 01:28AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

For a paedophile, any expression of their desires is abuse and rape. If they really don't want to harm children then they should take steps not to be around any.

Any expression of their sexual desires is abuse or rape. Paedophiles are still human beings, just like heterosexual men and women.

ceadaoin. · 16-01-2016 01:28AM

Canadel wrote: »

To be proven child molesters. And a child molester is not necessarily a paedophile. Nor is a paedophile automatically a child molester.

Not automatically one but all paedophiles are potential child molesters.

16-01-2016 01:31AM

Canadel wrote: »

To be proven child molesters. And a child molester is not necessarily a paedophile. Nor is a paedophile automatically a child molester.

If you’re a parent they are both the same!

Canadel · 16-01-2016 01:31AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Not automatically one but all paedophiles are potential child molesters.

Everyone is a potential child molester.

the_pen_turner · 16-01-2016 01:39AM

MOD .
im going to say something very controversial but it is factual so please don't ban me

paedophilia is a modern construct (I agree paedophilia is wrong )
the problem with paedophiles is that it is from a genetic point of view a natural thing . their brains are rewarding them the same way our brains reward us when we are with the right person

this is what makes stopping paedophilia so hard . our objections (rightly so) are just rules we made up and are not very easy to change .

I would worry that these dolls would be a gateway from thinking about it to actually doing it.
I wouldn't have a problem if it was proven to help but I doubt it

Sex dolls for paedophiles

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