Sex dolls for paedophiles

Mister Vain · 15-01-2016 11:17PM #1

A company is manufacturing sex dolls for paedophiles who want to control their sexual impulses. The founder says that they may well be a valuable weapon in the fight against the sexual abuse of real children. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lifelike-child-sex-dolls-created-7177869

One More Toy · 15-01-2016 11:17PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

A company is manufacturing sex dolls for paedophiles who want to control their sexual impulses. The founder says that they may well be a valuable weapon in the fight against the sexual abuse of real children. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lifelike-child-sex-dolls-created-7177869

The idea is young, we will see if it takes off

Tigger · 15-01-2016 11:18PM

Sell them , track them, arrest them

hatrickpatrick · 15-01-2016 11:18PM

Well, that's... That's enough internet for today, I think!

Uncle Ben · 15-01-2016 11:19PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

A company is manufacturing sex dolls for paedophiles who want to control their sexual impulses. The founder says that they may well be a valuable weapon in the fight against the sexual abuse of real children. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lifelike-child-sex-dolls-created-7177869

Id say there is a market in Cologne and Stockholm for them.

thattequilagirl · 15-01-2016 11:20PM

Tigger wrote: »

Sell them , track them, arrest them

I'm not sure you can arrest someone for having paedophilic thoughts if they've never touched a kid/watched child porn

marckavanagh · 15-01-2016 11:21PM

I don't think it's a good idea. I think they should be encouraged to repress their sexual desires. But I'm no psychological expert.

suicide_circus · 15-01-2016 11:21PM

Where does a sexuality end and a pathology begin?

eviltwin · 15-01-2016 11:22PM

Tigger wrote: »

Sell them , track them, arrest them

It's not illegal to fcuk a doll even one that looks like a kid.

Not sure how I feel about this to be honest.

osarusan · 15-01-2016 11:23PM

Any evidence that they are effective at all?

15-01-2016 11:25PM

Tigger wrote: »

Sell them , track them, arrest them

Not unless they do something illegal, surely? You can't charge them with the crime of just existing.

eviltwin wrote: »

It's not illegal to fcuk a doll even one that looks like a kid.

Not sure how I feel about this to be honest.

Yeah, it sounds like a panacea but it could lead to escalating behaviours by giving them a 'taste' of what they're attracted to. I just can't see it leading to healthy decisions or suppression of unhealthy desires.

And it could work for one and set another on the road to escalation. You just can't tell.

Tigger · 15-01-2016 11:26PM

eviltwin wrote: »

It's not illegal to fcuk a doll even one that looks like a kid.

Not sure how I feel about this to be honest.

I'ts illegal to depict a person as underage in media
Dolls are media
They want to fcuk kids

I don't want them to so put them in gaol

somesoldiers · 15-01-2016 11:27PM

What was to stop them molesting a Cabbage Patch doll before this? Fit the lot of them with bear trap like devices I say

thattequilagirl · 15-01-2016 11:28PM

Tigger wrote: »

They want to fcuk kids
I don't want them to so put them in gaol

Again, it's not illegal to want to do something. Thoughtcrime isn't a thing.

Sh1tbag OToole · 15-01-2016 11:29PM

thattequilagirl wrote: »

I'm not sure you can arrest someone for having paedophilic thoughts if they've never touched a kid/watched child porn

Yet

Canadel · 15-01-2016 11:30PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

What's your thoughts on this?

I'll reserve judgement until I see the quality and durability of them.

eviltwin · 15-01-2016 11:30PM

Tigger wrote: »

I'ts illegal to depict a person as underage in media
Dolls are media
They want to fcuk kids

I don't want them to so put them in gaol

I suppose it depends on if they are classed as dolls or sex toys. I doubt they would get the go ahead here but Japan has its own morality around acceptable sexual behaviour.

ceadaoin. · 15-01-2016 11:31PM

I don't know, I feel this might lead to them escalating their behaviour against actual children. I'm sure many paedophiles go on to abuse children themselves after watching images of abuse online so why is this different? The dolls themselves are disturbingly sexualised versions of children and just make me feel very uneasy.

c_man · 15-01-2016 11:31PM

I don't doubt that not all paedos actually act on their urges, so maybe this could help them?

Then again this could encourage people to go through with the real deal if they get a taste for it. Ah, I dunno... I really don't.

One eyed Jack · 15-01-2016 11:34PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

A company is manufacturing sex dolls for paedophiles who want to control their sexual impulses. The founder says that they may well be a valuable weapon in the fight against the sexual abuse of real children. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lifelike-child-sex-dolls-created-7177869

I think at €14k a pop, the inventor of these plastic dolls couldn't give two fcuks about the fight against sexual abuse of real children.

It's marketing, simple as that.

15-01-2016 11:36PM

I just hate the idea of representations of innocent little kids being marketed as sex toys. It's sexualising kids and it's pretty sickening.

AtomicHorror · 15-01-2016 11:36PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Where does a sexuality end and a pathology begin?

Where harming a person is involved, including possibly the person with the offending orientation/deviation/whateveryoucallit.

No harm, no pathology.

Uncle Ben · 15-01-2016 11:38PM

Can't see Smyths selling them.

15-01-2016 11:41PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

A company is manufacturing sex dolls for paedophiles who want to control their sexual impulses. The founder says that they may well be a valuable weapon in the fight against the sexual abuse of real children. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/lifelike-child-sex-dolls-created-7177869

At worst they could use to the dolls to practice on before trying it "for real" :mad:

It doesn't always mean that if you can act it out that you'll be satisfied and won't want to do it for real.

AtomicHorror · 15-01-2016 11:46PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't know, I feel this might lead to them escalating their behaviour against actual children.

c_man wrote: »

I don't doubt that not all paedos actually act on their urges, so maybe this could help them?

Then again this could encourage people to go through with the real deal if they get a taste for it. Ah, I dunno... I really don't.

So, trials then. Can't really test for non-offenders since those guys are pretty unlikely to announce themselves, but we release convicted offenders of various grades all the time. We have a list of them. We know the rates of reoffending for various different offences. Someone could do a trial to test if this "intervention" reduces that rate. Of course there's an ethically tricky part- it could indeed increase the rate. But how else would we ever know?

There's a study mentioned in the article, but it only says use of the dolls doesn't change user's orientation, which is not really the same question.

It would be a lot easier to dismiss or accept this idea if we actually had some information other than some possibly-slimy salescreature's word.

15-01-2016 11:55PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

So, trials then. Can't really test for non-offenders since those guys are pretty unlikely to announce themselves, but we release convicted offenders of various grades all the time. We have a list of them. We know the rates of reoffending for various different offences. Someone could do a trial to test if this "intervention" reduces that rate. Of course there's an ethically tricky part- it could indeed increase the rate. But how else would we ever know?

There's a study mentioned in the article, but it only says use of the dolls doesn't change user's orientation, which is not really the same question.

It would be a lot easier to dismiss or accept this idea if we actually had some information other than some possibly-slimy salescreature's word.

Send a consignment to Arbour Hill, but you'll never know if they're successful as the peado's are in for the long term.

mzungu · 16-01-2016 12:00AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I think at €14k a pop, the inventor of these plastic dolls couldn't give two fcuks about the fight against sexual abuse of real children.

It's marketing, simple as that.

Yeah, I mean if somebody was having those kind of impulses then surely it would be better to spend 14K on getting professional help rather than a doll.

darkpagandeath · 16-01-2016 12:03AM

It's not a child it's an inanimate object. And I highly doubt it would stop paedophiles impulses.

16-01-2016 12:07AM

mzungu wrote: »

Yeah, I mean if somebody was having those kind of impulses then surely it would be better to spend 14K on getting professional help rather than a doll.

Exactly, the doll just gives them a medium to indulge their impulses.

Animated depictions of child porn are illegal, so I wonder what the legal status of something like this is.

LETHAL LADY · 16-01-2016 12:07AM

You can be sure that local postman and couriers have a giggle and a chat about some of the orders they have to deliver.
Can you imagine if they have to bring one of these ****ing sick creations to Mary or Tom at No10.
Wouldn't be long before the whole town would be having a good auld chinwag about it and everything else that would ensue.
Horrible product and poorly thought out to boot.

16-01-2016 12:14AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

It's not a child it's an inanimate object. And I highly doubt it would stop paedophiles impulses.

You are right. It wouldn't stop paedophilic impulses but it possibly may contain them. The doll becomes the focus for their pleasure rather than a child. Paedophilia, while abhorrent to right minded people, is very complex. Some despise themselves for how they feel and will try anything to overcome their urges. Other's have no such qualms and will act out. It can't be cured only managed. There is an argument for it to be viewed as another type of sexuality.

Personally I believe any person who sexually abuses a child regardless of the psychology behind it are vile and pathetic creatures.

Sex dolls for paedophiles

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