Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

As well as the leftie, feminists, equality campaigner types who are very pro "refugees"/migrants and sooner or later end up excusing them and their foibles, I find it equally intriguing how many of the older shinner brigade are of the same mindset.

BTW these would be some of the same people who 20/30 years back would have been scrawling Brits Out on a bridge or a wall.
But now they are doing their damndest to welcome in every near do well from the muslim world.

I wonder what crisis and what mental gymnastics they would have undertaken if they had come across a muslim British soldier 30 years ago. :rolleyes:

conorhal wrote: »

Some posters need to ask themselves an important question, not what 'taharrush' means, but rather why the word exists.

I often find that the words a particular culture or people have to express themselves, the ones that are unique to it, are often instructive in distilling the essence of a people's character.
From craic to begrudgery or ennui, schadenfreude and mensch, they tell you alot about the psychology and character of that group. So when you invent a word that enters the common lexicon like 'taharrush' (meaning "collective harassment") it should raise an eyebrow.
When 'give the lads a call and we'll head out for a bit of taharrush' is sombody's 'up for the craic boys?' then that culture has a serious problem with women.

Of course we have our own lexicon to describe Nodin's posts too, I believe they're 'whataboutery' and 'bolloxology'....

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It would have to be pretty prevalent to be a culture though.

I don't know enough about it to know if it part of their culture or some grotesque criminal activity.

conorhal wrote: »

That's your definiton. it's actually commonly refered to as taḥarrush game'a or 'collective harrassment game'.

Jesus Christ.

taharrush means harassment, game'a means collective.

game'a is the Egyptian pronunciation, jamae'i is the standard Arabic one.



How f**king stupid can a post be?

conorhal wrote: »

It is enormously prevalent:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/07/egypt-pink-taxi-service-women-safe-haven-patronising

I suppose the dismissive usual line thrown out about reports about sexual harassment in Ireland, is to snidely belittle the stats.

99% is a disturbing figure though.

.45auto wrote: »

Also germany is saying only 2.5 percent of them have any form of education

What source in Germany and what countries are they talking about can you tell me? sounds incredibly low. It's definitely not Syria anyway. Have been told by two Syrian friends that before the civil war that around 70% of their age group-mid twenties were attending University, though that figure drops as the age level increases in the population.

Some appalling shows of ignorance on display here, and not that it will probably make any difference to the people who have made up their minds that all Muslims refugees to Europe are illiterate sex attackers and rapists (or would be), but both my friends and other Syrians I know have shown me nothing but respect and kindness as a woman in the almost two years I've known them and treat me as an equal; viewing the events that have happened in Germany (where they all live now) as appalling and inhuman.
Furthermore not all Muslims from that country at least are even that religious. The ones I know are a mix of agnostic -quote from one "not even sure if there is a God", and others not observant Muslim-several Kurds who value their culture far more than their religion.

To bring it around to the topic at hand- obviously if there have been cover ups in reporting of sexual attacks on women in Sweden or elsewhere that's completely unacceptable and those responsible must be punished, regardless of where they are from, but let me make this point-around 800,000 Kurdish Muslims already lived in Germany prior to the recent wave of refugees coming to that country this year-the largest diaspora in Europe.

If those who believe that Muslims are now all to be seen as would be assailants, that they should all be sent back to their home countries because they are incapable of behaving in accordance with the laws and social customs in European liberal democracies where respect and equality for women is valued, why is it that there not been wide scale attacks in Germany over the years by Kurdish Muslims living there (which would have hit the headlines by now)? could it be because *gasp* just because a man happens to be born Muslim doesn't mean he is:
a. a misogynistic sexist
b. Radical Wahhabist or Salafist
c. Uneducated peasant?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634815/Cologne-attacks-fury-migrant-sex-cover-up-refugee-event-groping-Germany

Young women had to flee a 'welcome refugees event' concert staged by the Council in Cologne (just before the events of NYE) because they were being groped by gangs of migrant men, even though organisers repeatedly interrupted the music with messages in Arabic urging them to stop their harassment.

Well they were asked politely not to rape women over the tannoy, which was definately a better way to handle the situation rather then calling the police.
This report would teeter on the verge of comical satire but for the fact that it's so depressing..... but of course, nothing to see here!

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why aren't safe areas being created in Syria for the people impacted by ISIS. This should be Assad's priority.

Assad has killed more people than ISIS and his troops have raped thousands of women. I wouldn't be expecting too much from him.

Greentopia wrote: »

What source in Germany and what countries are they talking about can you tell me? sounds incredibly low. It's definitely not Syria anyway. Have been told by two Syrian friends that before the civil war that around 70% of their age group-mid twenties were attending University, though that figure drops as the age level increases in the population.

Some appalling shows of ignorance on display here, and not that it will probably make any difference to the people who have made up their minds that all Muslims refugees to Europe are illiterate sex attackers and rapists (or would be), but both my friends and other Syrians I know have shown me nothing but respect and kindness as a woman in the almost two years I've known them and treat me as an equal; viewing the events that have happened in Germany (where they all live now) as appalling and inhuman.
Furthermore not all Muslims from that country at least are even that religious. The ones I know are a mix of agnostic -quote from one "not even sure if there is a God", and others not observant Muslim-several Kurds who value their culture far more than their religion.

To bring it around to the topic at hand- obviously if there have been cover ups in reporting of sexual attacks on women in Sweden or elsewhere that's completely unacceptable and those responsible must be punished, regardless of where they are from, but let me make this point-around 800,000 Kurdish Muslims already lived in Germany prior to the recent wave of refugees coming to that country this year-the largest diaspora in Europe.

If those who believe that Muslims are now all to be seen as would be assailants, that they should all be sent back to their home countries because they are incapable of behaving in accordance with the laws and social customs in European liberal democracies where respect and equality for women is valued, why is it that there not been wide scale attacks in Germany over the years by Kurdish Muslims living there (which would have hit the headlines by now)? could it be because *gasp* just because a man happens to be born Muslim doesn't mean he is:
a. a misogynistic sexist
b. Radical Wahhabist or Salafist
c. Uneducated peasant?

This is an example of one of the big issues with the whole "refugee" crisis.
You are immediately dragging in the old sacred cow of "the Syrians".
Even by the stats given by the pro refugee side, the number of Syrians is at most 60% to 70% and that is the refugees coming through Turkey.

Now if you go to anti-refugee side you will find that they state it could be less than 50%.

Half of the migrants and so called refugees have never been in Syria never mind be an actual Syrian.
Look at the camp in Calais, how many of them are Syrian?

Every so often you will find an interview where an actual Syrian in Greece, Croatia, Macedonia will admit that half the ones around them claiming to be Syrian are Turks, Iranians, Afghani, etc, etc.

Of course these interviews don't fit the picture the Western media is trying to portray of poor Syrian women and children refugees (or even single males making the hazardous journey on behalf of their poor wives and children) fleeing Assad on one side and ISIS on the other.

Where have all the refugees coming out of Libya come from ?
What percentage are Syrian ?
Even lower than the ones from Turkey.

These all end up in Italy and then wander north.

conorhal wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634815/Cologne-attacks-fury-migrant-sex-cover-up-refugee-event-groping-Germany

Young women had to flee a 'welcome refugees event' concert staged by the Council in Cologne (just before the events of NYE) because they were being groped by gangs of migrant men, even though organisers repeatedly interrupted the music with messages in Arabic urging them to stop their harassment.

Well they were asked politely not to rape women over the tannoy, which was definately a better way to handle the situation rather then calling the police.
This report would teeter on the verge of comical satire but for the fact that it's so depressing..... but of course, nothing to see here!

Merkel is gone.
Her party will be left with no choice, but to dump her.
In any country bar the one with the muppets who will follow their leader, even to their own destruction, she would be long gone.