Chris Gayle Controversy Was this Sexist?

MarkY91 · 07-01-2016 11:54AM

Billy86 wrote: »

So you'd be grand with a gay lad sleazing on to you over and over, even after you made it clear you weren't interested?

No but what's sexist about it?

I'm pretty sure he was just joking anyway. People try to be funny when they're on tv

07-01-2016 01:47PM

BunkMoreland wrote: »

She wouldn't have the job if she was a munter. Her only purpose is to be eye candy for the duration of the mindless interview.

She's supposed to be an excellent reporter. What a shame some people assume a good looking woman can't just be good at her job.

Jesus, she must put up with a lot from people with small minds, and that's before you get to Gayle.

Augme · 07-01-2016 02:02PM

I think the $10,000 is quite lucky for him. In any other non-sporting profession he'd have been sacked.

Billy86 · 07-01-2016 02:48PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm dying to hear what's sexist about this scenario.

And I'm dying to hear where I called it sexist?

Billy86 · 07-01-2016 03:11PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

No but what's sexist about it?

I'm pretty sure he was just joking anyway. People try to be funny when they're on tv

I didn't say it was sexist, but it was highly disrespectful, highly unprofessional, and absolutely warranted a fine and being made a show of on social media/in the papers. If you google him, he apparently has a history of doing it on and off camera so it probably wasn't just acting up for the cameras. If I did that to a work mate in the cafeteria I would face action for it and rightly so, it may not go public but that's the cost of being a public figure. Couldn't have any less sympathy for the guy.

Shurimgreat · 07-01-2016 03:14PM

I think it was more embarrassing for her than sexist.

As a guy, if I was a reporter interviewing a female sportstar and she said something similar to me, I'd be embarrassed, no matter how hot she was. You don't do stuff like that on live TV. I think Gayle might have been joking to be fair to him. A joke that backfired but a joke nonetheless. No surprising to see a media witchhunt after him now though, that always happens in these situations.

recylingbin · 07-01-2016 03:14PM

You know what I love about Chris Gayle? The look of absolute nonchalance as he batters a cricket ball out of the ground for six.
After that, like most entertainers, I could not give one solitary f*ck about anything he does in his personal life.

Billy86 · 07-01-2016 03:18PM

Candie wrote: »

She's supposed to be an excellent reporter. What a shame some people assume a good looking woman can't just be good at her job.

Jesus, she must put up with a lot from people with small minds, and that's before you get to Gayle.

Googled her and she apparently anchored the Commonwealth games along with Ian Thorpe (who's still absolutely revered down under) - I don't think they'd go giving that to 'some airhead'. It's gas because while I don't think the incident itself was sexist, there are some ridiculously sexist attitudes/statements in this thread being made in defense of him.

c_man · 07-01-2016 04:29PM

He seems like a tit. But I'm going to save the main thrust of my outrage for the game of cricket itself.

Peregrine · 07-01-2016 05:24PM

cabla wrote: »

I can't find the clip right now but of you check "Cricket Vines" on Facebook you'll find a clip of her blatantly flirting and asking out a man who is engaged and if anything being more sexist than Chris by saying how good the mans body looks! Check it out.

It'll go down to the media being sexist over the controversy of a man flirting on TV over a woman doing the same thing on TV (equally unprofessional mind you).

It wasn't her.

That's also sleazy and unprofessional. I wouldn't call either of them sexist.

Lux23 · 07-01-2016 05:26PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'd call it stupid rather than sexist tbh.

Would he have done the same thing to a man?

Billy86 · 07-01-2016 05:45PM

Lux23 wrote: »

Would he have done the same thing to a man?

If he were gay or bisexual, I would imagine he would to be fair. I posted a bit back that being straight in the George can feel a bit like the interviewer seemed to be feeling during the video in question; it's not exclusive to women.

Shockingly unprofessional, downright sleazy, he comes over as an absolute tool and idiot, and is fully deserving of heavy criticism for sure. But I don't think it was at all sexist, to be honest.

Xaracatz · 07-01-2016 09:04PM

Very surprised at the responses here. I can't see on any way, shape, or form how that was sexist. Unless you want to say that a woman who fancies men is sexist.

We've gone too PC. I'm more surprised that a professional journalist / broadcaster could get so flustered so easily.

And, for what it's worth, in my opinion, the team fined yer man for appearances' sake. I still don't understand the outrage over this whatsoever.

Peregrine · 07-01-2016 09:11PM

Xaracatz wrote: »

Very surprised at the responses here. I can't see on any way, shape, or form how that was sexist. Unless you want to say that a woman who fancies men is sexist.

We've gone too PC. I'm more surprised that a professional journalist / broadcaster could get so flustered so easily.

And, for what it's worth, in my opinion, the team fined yer man for appearances' sake. I still don't understand the outrage over this whatsoever.

Why are you surprised then?

The vast majority of people here agree that it wasn't sexist.

Xaracatz · 07-01-2016 09:24PM

Peregrine wrote: »

Why are you surprised then?

The vast majority of people here agree that it wasn't sexist.

I'm sorry - I guess I phrased that badly. I'm surprised how many people here opined there was something considerably wrong with both the actions, and the amount of coverage that it is getting, and my first thought on this thread was that people would have been more "meh" about it.

I should have paragraphed before the sexist bit..

melissak · 09-01-2016 07:25PM

I think this kind of overreacting to something minor does nothing to dispel the opinions in certain more macho professions/sectors that women are too emotional/weak etc for such jobs.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 09-01-2016 08:06PM

melissak wrote: »

I think this kind of overreacting to something minor does nothing to dispel the opinions in certain more macho professions/sectors that women are too emotional/weak etc for such jobs.

I don't think the woman involved complained though.It was the world at large that made a big deal about it.

melissak · 09-01-2016 08:13PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

melissak wrote: »

I think this kind of overreacting to something minor does nothing to dispel the opinions in certain more macho professions/sectors that women are too emotional/weak etc for such jobs.

I don't think the woman involved complained though.It was the world at large that made a big deal about it.

Add your reply here.
Oh. Never mind so. People have little to be outraged about.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 09-01-2016 08:17PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I don't think the woman involved complained though.It was the world at large that made a big deal about it.

Has there really been that much of a big deal made about it? If it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have heard about it at all. Gayle himself seems to give less than a shít, McLaughlin (who was clearly and visibly pissed off more than upset or having an attack of the delicates during the incident) doesn't want to talk about it, some people have tweeted about it, and his club-not any statutory body, not the broadcaster, his employer- have fined him for being inappropriate - not sexist, not misogynist, not for offences against PCness.

The people who seem most worked up about it are the people who are outraged at the outrage and all upset over a pretty nonexistent media storm. This shít is getting ridiculous. I mean, there's been a bit of discussion online, it's not like it's Star Wars

09-01-2016 08:20PM

Kade Polite Teacup wrote: »

Has there really been that much of a big deal made about it? If it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have heard about it at all. Gayle himself seems to give less than a shít, McLaughlin (who was clearly and visibly pissed off more than upset or having an attack of the delicates during the incident) doesn't want to talk about it, some people have tweeted about it, and his club-not any statutory body, not the broadcaster, his employer- have fined him for being inappropriate - not sexist, not misogynist, not for offences against PCness.

The people who seem most worked up about it are the people who are outraged at the outrage and all upset over a pretty nonexistent media storm. This shít is getting ridiculous. I mean, there's been a bit of discussion online, it's not like it's Star Wars

I'm just quoting this because it's worth saying twice.

Boards is like Chinese whispers, what's actually originally been said bears no relation to what people are saying was said. Agendas all over the place.

09-01-2016 08:21PM

Kade Polite Teacup wrote: »

Has there really been that much of a big deal made about it? If it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have heard about it at all. Gayle himself seems to give less than a shít, McLaughlin (who was clearly and visibly pissed off more than upset or having an attack of the delicates during the incident) doesn't want to talk about it, some people have tweeted about it, and his club-not any statutory body, not the broadcaster, his employer- have fined him for being inappropriate - not sexist, not misogynist, not for offences against PCness.

The people who seem most worked up about it are the people who are outraged at the outrage and all upset over a pretty nonexistent media storm. This shít is getting ridiculous. I mean, there's been a bit of discussion online, it's not like it's Star Wars

Precisely.

If you search this thread, there are 6 posts containing the word outrage. Not one of them is an opinion from someone saying they are outraged, but people referring to other people being outraged, usually in the context of defending him by overstating a claimed reaction.

melissak · 09-01-2016 10:03PM

True

markbrop · 12-01-2016 01:57PM

"You know what I love about Chris Gayle? The look of absolute nonchalance as he batters a cricket ball out of the ground for six.
After that, like most entertainers, I could not give one solitary f*ck about anything he does in his personal life."

I have to agree with you. Ireland's Niall O'Brien has defended him on twitter. He is my second favourite non-Irish cricketer on the planet behind the truly brilliant Kevin Pietersen.

dub_skav · 12-01-2016 02:09PM

Candie wrote: »

I'm just quoting this because it's worth saying twice.

Boards is like Chinese whispers, what's actually originally been said bears no relation to what people are saying was said. Agendas all over the place.

Purplemonkeydishwasher

markbrop · 12-01-2016 02:53PM

Very good point here from an Indian poster on cricinfo:

There are some quality women involved in Cricket journalism on Cricinfo itself. Firdose Moonda, Sharda Ugra and some others among them. The reason they are respected is, because they know the game and know what they are talking about. They are not in it for their looks. This has nothing to do with women being marginalized. Get over yourselves. If you want to be a quality contributor in sports journalism, show what you can do and stop whining. People will respect you regardless of your gender.

If you want Chris Gayle to be burned at the stake for saying a woman has nice eyes and asking her out on a date on live TV, then please go ahead. It might help with you feel more empowered.

Azalea · 12-01-2016 04:17PM

Kade Polite Teacup wrote: »

Has there really been that much of a big deal made about it? If it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have heard about it at all. Gayle himself seems to give less than a shít, McLaughlin (who was clearly and visibly pissed off more than upset or having an attack of the delicates during the incident) doesn't want to talk about it, some people have tweeted about it, and his club-not any statutory body, not the broadcaster, his employer- have fined him for being inappropriate - not sexist, not misogynist, not for offences against PCness.

The people who seem most worked up about it are the people who are outraged at the outrage and all upset over a pretty nonexistent media storm. This shít is getting ridiculous. I mean, there's been a bit of discussion online, it's not like it's Star Wars

Candie wrote: »

I'm just quoting this because it's worth saying twice.

Boards is like Chinese whispers, what's actually originally been said bears no relation to what people are saying was said. Agendas all over the place.

Deleted User wrote: »

Precisely.

If you search this thread, there are 6 posts containing the word outrage. Not one of them is an opinion from someone saying they are outraged, but people referring to other people being outraged, usually in the context of defending him by overstating a claimed reaction.

So spot-on.

Azalea · 12-01-2016 04:23PM

markbrop wrote: »

Very good point here from an Indian poster on cricinfo:

There are some quality women involved in Cricket journalism on Cricinfo itself. Firdose Moonda, Sharda Ugra and some others among them. The reason they are respected is, because they know the game and know what they are talking about. They are not in it for their looks. This has nothing to do with women being marginalized. Get over yourselves. If you want to be a quality contributor in sports journalism, show what you can do and stop whining. People will respect you regardless of your gender.

If you want Chris Gayle to be burned at the stake for saying a woman has nice eyes and asking her out on a date on live TV, then please go ahead. It might help with you feel more empowered.

Who wants him burned at the stake for it? And they kinda discredited themselves with their mention of it being live on TV. That was part of the problem.

The woman who was interviewing him is also deemed excellent in her field, rather than just being employed for her looks (as suggested more than once for zero reason, as if it can only be good looks or good journalism but never both).

He acted unprofessionally and made her feel awkward - that is all that was wrong. It wasn't sexist, he's not a misogynistic asshole, but he shouldn't have done that in a live interview in a professional capacity. Harsh fine for sure (in my opinion) but he should have known better at his age than to be so unprofessional.

markbrop · 12-01-2016 05:07PM

"Who wants him burned at the stake for it? And they kinda discredited themselves with their mention of it being live on TV. That was part of the problem."

Nobody wants him burned at the stake for it. The former Australian cricket commentator Ian Chappell wants him banned from all T20 tournaments worldwide - there is no chance of it happening. Others have laughably compared him to Bill Cosby.

"The woman who was interviewing him is also deemed excellent in her field, rather than just being employed for her looks (as suggested more than once for zero reason, as if it can only be good looks or good journalism but never both)."

You are possibly correct there. From what I've heard McLaughlin is good at her job but there are others in Australia who are not so good and are just on TV for their looks.

"He acted unprofessionally and made her feel awkward - that is all that was wrong. It wasn't sexist, he's not a misogynistic asshole, but he shouldn't have done that in a live interview in a professional capacity. Harsh fine for sure (in my opinion) but he should have known better at his age than to be so unprofessional."

Totally agree - I wouldnt worry too mucn about the harsh fine though - it went to a good cause and Gayle's estimated fortune was around 30 million two years ago.

Billy86 · 12-01-2016 07:29PM

markbrop wrote: »

"You know what I love about Chris Gayle? The look of absolute nonchalance as he batters a cricket ball out of the ground for six.
After that, like most entertainers, I could not give one solitary f*ck about anything he does in his personal life."

I have to agree with you. Ireland's Niall O'Brien has defended him on twitter. He is my second favourite non-Irish cricketer on the planet behind the truly brilliant Kevin Pietersen.

The problem there though, is that an in-game interview on national television, about his profession... is not his personal life. The same is if a politician, actor, singer, etc acted completely out of line in an interview.

markbrop · 13-01-2016 10:29AM

"The problem there though, is that an in-game interview on national television, about his profession... is not his personal life. The same is if a politician, actor, singer, etc acted completely out of line in an interview."

I couldn't agree more but it was blown completely out of proportion by the Australian media. Once he had been fined by the Renegades that should have been the end of the matter.

Chris Gayle Controversy Was this Sexist?

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