Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

ceadaoin. · 11-01-2016 10:26PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Helsinki was also subject to attacks on NYE

If reports are true it was 2nd worst behind Cologne actually

I read that the police there had some forewarning that these kinds of attacks were planned and were able to get it under control.

Helsinki (AFP) - Finnish police reported Thursday an unusually high level of sexual harassment in Helsinki on New Year's Eve and said they had been tipped off about plans by groups of asylum seekers to sexually harass women.

http://news.yahoo.com/unprecedented-sex-harassment-helsinki-police-194548532.html

The_Kew_Tour · 11-01-2016 10:27PM

Here what Chief officer said in Helsinki...

"Helsinki deputy police chief Ilkka Koskimaki told AFP: “There hasn’t been this kind of harassment on previous New Year’s Eves or other occasions for that matter … This is a completely new phenomenon in Helsinki.”

Security guards hired to patrol the city on New Year’s Eve told police there had been “widespread sexual harassment” at a central square where around 20,000 people had gathered for celebrations.

Three sexual assaults allegedly took place at Helsinki’s central railway station on New Year’s Eve, where around 1000 mostly Iraqi asylum seekers had converged.

“Police have … received information about three cases of sexual assault, of which two have been filed as complaints,” Helsinki police said in a statement.

“The suspects were asylum seekers. The three were caught and taken into custody on the spot,” Koskimaki told AFP.

Police said they had increased their preparedness “to an exceptional level” in Helsinki for New Year’s Eve after being tipped off about possible problems."

Rezident · 11-01-2016 10:35PM

While it's much harder these days due to technology, things like this have always been covered up - in the 'public interest' or 'for the greater good'. It's like censorship, we might not like it, but sometimes we do need it. The problem is that the decision is made by a few smart people in a room and sometimes they do get it wrong.

While the truth certainly can set you free, it can also set other people to killing or raping or destroying, which is why parts of it are covered up in the first place. What happens when the first arabic-looking man (who will probably be innocent) is murdered by a mob? There's no going back and you can imagine what lies down that road. There will be no winners from this war.

the evasion_kid · 11-01-2016 10:36PM

the european "union" is turning into a sick joke......looks like finglas on halloween night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rE3xZ6tBi8

wendell borton · 11-01-2016 10:41PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcCCrlArhMM

mynamejeff · 11-01-2016 10:45PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Too cold the two Finish guys I know say they don't tend to get a lot of migrants. No critical mass to start problems.

Last time i was there a few years ago there was plenty of north african and Somalian people around .

The live mostly in the bigger citys but thats true of most refugee groups new to a country isnt it ?

they have heaters there too

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 10:45PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They are trying desperately to postpone the inevitable backlash from the white working class across mainland Europe

Those who are engineering this are twisted psychopaths who care little for any human being

I'd say the people gagging for some kind of race war as just as twisted as any of the other aforementioned parties. The vast majority of people are decent, including refugees. Those that commit crime should be dealt with severely and swiftly.

The vast majority however are no different to anyone else and there is no proof to suggest otherwise.

We had mass child abuse from catholic priests throughout the western world. That doesn't mean that all Christians are paedos does it?

We have UN peacekeepers, including western troops involved in child abuse in African countries with major coverups of this being unearthed. This doesn't mean that the communities these people come from have a 'culture of child abuse'

The Anglican churches throughout Africa are strong proponents of laws criminalising homosexuality and homosexuals are being persecuted as a result in these places.

In Venezuela women are sent to jail if they miscarry due to strict anti abortion laws pushed by the Catholic Church there.

In India, Hindu extremists are killing people for eating beef.

Oh yeah, and I also saw a documentary on BBC couple of nights ago talking about 'cyber sex' how thousands of kids are being sexually abused over the Internet, in the Phillipines, to satisfy the depraved appetites of men from all over the world including western men.

This idea that Islam is special or specially abusive in any way is nonsense. It's a combination of religious control, poverty and lack of education. And the fact that a certain percentage of people are just scumbags no matter what.

The vast majority of Muslims / Syrians / Arabs are no different than the vast majority of 'white' people or any other kind of people. There is absolutely zero evidence to say otherwise other than the racist belief of the prejudiced who have some kind of inherent ideas of their own greater morality and righteousness which is based on absolutely nothing concrete whatsoever.

strandroad · 11-01-2016 10:46PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No idea don't read the Guardian. Most people use MSM and other sources and can spot instantly an agenda. Once spotted people then go to alternative sources to fill in the blanks and bypass the agenda. Just like that Poor dead kid on the Beach. Who incidentally had been moved for a better photo.

This is somewhat off topic, but this one was debunked - the other body was his brother's, you could see they were wearing different shoes.

cowboyBuilder · 11-01-2016 10:47PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

But they are doctors, engineers, Teacher Highly literate..

That you Joe Duffy ?

nokia69 · 11-01-2016 10:52PM

Memnoch wrote: »

The vast majority of Muslims / Syrians / Arabs are no different than the vast majority of 'white' people or any other kind of people. There is absolutely zero evidence to say otherwise other than the racist belief of the prejudiced who have some kind of inherent ideas of their own greater morality and righteousness which is based on absolutely nothing concrete whatsoever.

This is just not true

different countries have different cultures, and their peoples believe in different things and have different ideas about the world

The average male in an Arab or islamic country has very different ideas about women than the average white male living in the West, how people can continue to deny this obvious reality is beyond me

darkpagandeath · 11-01-2016 10:56PM

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

That you Joe Duffy ?

Should I have used :pac::pac::pac:

testaccount123 · 11-01-2016 10:56PM

Memnoch wrote: »

The vast majority however are no different to anyone else and there is no proof to suggest otherwise.

We had mass child abuse from catholic priests throughout the western world. That doesn't mean that all Christians are paedos does it?

We have UN peacekeepers, including western troops involved in child abuse in African countries with major coverups of this being unearthed. This doesn't mean that the communities these people come from have a 'culture of child abuse'

The Anglican churches throughout Africa are strong proponents of laws criminalising homosexuality and homosexuals are being persecuted as a result in these places.

In Venezuela women are sent to jail if they miscarry due to strict anti abortion laws pushed by the Catholic Church there.

In India, Hindu extremists are killing people for eating beef.

Ive an idea! - lets not let a million pedophile catholic priests, rapey UN soldiers, gay-persecuting Africans, Venezuelan mysogenists or Hindu extremists wander unchecked into Europe either...

Christ.

The_Valeyard · 11-01-2016 11:01PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Ive an idea! - lets not let a million pedophile catholic priests, rapey UN soldiers, gay-persecuting Africans, Venezuelan mysogenists or Hindu extremists wander unchecked into Europe either...

Christ.

You forgot the animal 'lovers'

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:03PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Ive an idea! - lets not let a million pedophile catholic priests, rapey UN soldiers, gay-persecuting Africans, Venezuelan mysogenists or Hindu extremists wander unchecked into Europe either...

Christ.

Congratulations for missing the point COMPLETELY.

The point is, you don't take the actions of Catholic priests, Catholics in Africa etc etc and generalise them as representative of an entire population do you?

Because it is frankly idiotic to do so. The people who do this are racist idiots.

.45auto · 11-01-2016 11:07PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Congratulations for missing the point COMPLETELY.

The point is, you don't take the actions of Catholic priests, Catholics in Africa etc etc and generalise them as representative of an entire population do you?

Because it is frankly idiotic to do so. The people who do this are racist idiots.

Didnt take you long to play the race card

testaccount123 · 11-01-2016 11:07PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Congratulations for missing the point COMPLETELY.

The point is, you don't take the actions of Catholic priests, Catholics in Africa etc etc and generalise them as representative of an entire population do you?

Because it is frankly idiotic to do so. The people who do this are racist idiots.

Yes I do take the actions of rapist Catholic priests and the subsequent cover ups by their peers and supporters as representative of Catholics, why on earth wouldnt I? So does everyone else, which is why that organisations popularity has plummeted.

You arent very bright.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-01-2016 11:11PM

Ya we are all the same.

I mean you see loads of Irish, British, German and French gang raping women for all to see on regular basis.

Come on like!!

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:13PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Yes I do take the actions of rapist Catholic priests and the subsequent cover ups by their peers and supporters as representative of Catholics, why on earth wouldnt I? So does everyone else, which is why that organisations popularity has plummeted.

You arent very bright.

So you're saying that the average Catholic should be banned from travelling anywhere in the world because they might go and abuse children there?

Malcolm600f · 11-01-2016 11:14PM

Get back on topic this is nothing to do with priests or past events ..
This is about current event and events that some time very soon might be on our doorstep..

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:15PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ya we are all the same.

I mean you see loads of Irish, British, German and French gang raping women for all to see on regular basis.

Come on like!!

Who do you think fuels the sex tourist industry in 3rd world countries? Should all western men be banned from travelling to third world countries because of the huge numbers of child sex abusers going over there and raping children?

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:16PM

Malcolm600f wrote: »

Get back on topic this is nothing to do with priests or past events ..
This is about current event and events that some time very soon might be on our doorstep..

Taking the example of the wrongful actions of a small minority of individuals and using that to tar an entire population of people is what is happening right now on our doorstep by a group of people trying to spread their prejudice and xenophobia and legitimise it.

BigJackC · 11-01-2016 11:18PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Who do you think fuels the sex tourist industry in 3rd world countries? Should all western men be banned from travelling to third world countries because of the huge numbers of child sex abusers going over there and raping children?

That is a matter for these countries. I would have no quarrel with them vetting western tourists. Especially the demographic who get up to some shady stuff there - middle aged white men. It would be perfectly rational to do so.

On the other side of the coin, it is time we stringently vet who allow into the EU too.

BigJackC · 11-01-2016 11:19PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Taking the example of the wrongful actions of a small minority of individuals and using that to tar an entire population of people is what is happening right now on our doorstep by a group of people trying to spread their prejudice and xenophobia and legitimise it.

Yes, that's the issue. Not mass sexual assault and the resulting cover up by the media.

Jesus wept.

vg88 · 11-01-2016 11:20PM

For anyone good dooer here who thinks this is a once off, it's not. A year and a half ago I was in Brussels with friends. 10 of us, half lads and half girls. Half of them were natives to Brussels and during the night we had many problems with african/muslim immigrants following us and shouting for the girls we were with, the police had to arrest them to keep them away from us. After living in Europe for a 1 year you quickly realise it's mainly african/muslim populations don't integrate and cause massive issues as our cultures are far too different.

All I can say that this is, unfortunately, the beginning of a horrible year for ordinary Europeans who will walking in fear now on their own streets for years to come.

.45auto · 11-01-2016 11:20PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Who do you think fuels the sex tourist industry in 3rd world countries? Should all western men be banned from travelling to third world countries because of the huge numbers of child sex abusers going over there and raping children?

Thats stupid. People go to these countries as they KNOW they can get away with that behaviour. You could never get away with that here. Thats governmental corruption and failings at the highest level

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:21PM

BigJackC wrote: »

That is a matter for these countries. I would have no quarrel with them vetting western tourists. Especially the demographic who get up to some shady stuff there - middle aged white men. It would be perfectly rational to do so.

There is a difference between vetting people and labelling an entire population with the same brush.

How do you vet a refugee fleeing war for potentially being a rapist? Is it that they have to prove they are not rapists before they can be 'allowed' in?

In the case of Syrian refugees are you going to go to Basher Assad's government and ask them to do a background check on people fleeing their country? Are you going to look for papers from their police and military that are disappearing people of the street, torturing and raping them?

Or are you going to ask that these refugees provide papers from the Isis 'government' to prove they aren't criminals?

Malcolm600f · 11-01-2016 11:23PM

So the behavior of these people is not normal behavior .. I guess next it will be all the fault of westerners not giving them 5 star accommodation..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247831/Rape-child-abuse-rife-overcrowded-asylum-centres-huge-surge-migrants-pushes-Germany-s-services-breaking-point-claim-womens-rights-groups-politicians.html

Memnoch · 11-01-2016 11:25PM

BigJackC wrote: »

Yes, that's the issue. Not mass sexual assault and the resulting cover up by the media.

Jesus wept.

Yes, when you are talking about persecuting hundreds of thousands or millions potentially of innocent refugees because of the actions of a small minority in order to satisfy your prejudiced racist views, then that is a very big issue indeed.

The sexual assaults are absolutely abhorant.

But is it not just as abhorant to say that people who are being starved to death who are being tortured and raped to death and are trying to flee to safety should have walls built to keep them out because they happen to share ethnicity or religion with a group of scumbags who have acted criminally?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-01-2016 11:25PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Who do you think fuels the sex tourist industry in 3rd world countries? Should all western men be banned from travelling to third world countries because of the huge numbers of child sex abusers going over there and raping children?

Im not going speculate on countries I have not been to, but I've been to Nigeria, Samolia and Congo in Africa for instance and Rape is like a 2nd hobby for many there.

I sadly witnessed a kidnapping in Africa too. By all accounts she survived from what we heard. Oh it wasn't a Priest in any case.

Now I'm not naive to think the Catholic or Protestant churches are some sort of Goody Gooders either.

But they're big difference. In Western Society people have stood up to abuse and people condemned it, mainly. In other countries it seen as norm and in Congo for example I have met men who Women as alone as fair game.

Now of course they're rapists in Ireland, but when one is found out they are highlighted, people are warned and warn others and in some cases beat **** out of them.

So yes they're differences

testaccount123 · 11-01-2016 11:28PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Taking the example of the wrongful actions of a small minority

You think hundreds of rapists roaming the streets in Cologne constitutes a small minority? How much rape is acceptable in your book exactly? Perhaps you can volunteer your female relatives to take their fair share of rape?

Swedish police accused of covering up rampant sexual abuse at music festival

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