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Joe Duffy and the buke

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Simple question, would anyone have difficulty with Duffy hauling his book around schools with the permission of the Dept. of Education. Is that not indoctrination, maybe biased.
    Is this a hypothetical question or is it actually happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    I'd have great difficulty with it. He's had three months free advertising on RTE already and I'm sure there'll be blanket coverage from now till Easter. If he comes to my children's school I'll organise a picket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Sure...sure..sure

    CLONTAAAAAAAAARF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Simple question, would anyone have difficulty with Duffy hauling his book around schools with the permission of the Dept. of Education. Is that not indoctrination, maybe biased.

    Selling it in schools?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Colleagues , learned and otherwise , I am related to Joe Duffy









    distantly















    However , I am at peace with myself , for I am also distantly related to Phil Lynnot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,829 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    So what bukes have you lot managed to write?

    Hi, Joe. :P


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The question is about his book, every time any media personality is mentioned there is a raft of replies with nepotism rabble talentless rabbel. When its Joe you also get a few sly digs about where he lives and his money as if that has to do with anything.

    I do not particularity like Joe Duffy's style nor do I listen to his show that often, however his life is interesting how he went to Trinity as a mature student and became a social worker that sort of thing so maybe his book is biased but Children do like to read about the lives of other children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    He can write all the books he wants to, and fair play to him. But he should pay for his advertising like every other author. When he's sitting in his studio he's getting paid a fee while dropping his book into every conversation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The question is about his book, every time any media personality is mentioned there is a raft of replies with nepotism rabble talentless rabbel. When its Joe you also get a few sly digs about where he lives and his money as if that has to do with anything.

    I do not particularity like Joe Duffy's style nor do I listen to his show that often, however his life is interesting how he went to Trinity as a mature student and became a social worker that sort of thing so maybe his book is biased but Children do like to read about the lives of other children.

    Dont see any sly digs myself just people calling it like they see it, the guy is a hypocrite that champions the little people and local business while having his buke printed in germany to avail of cheaper printing.

    Also there is an assumption that some proceeds of the buke are going to charity which isnt that case at all.

    All the while he is working as a contractor for rte and availing of the tax breaks associated and getting free advertising five days a week on his show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The question is about his book, every time any media personality is mentioned there is a raft of replies with nepotism rabble talentless rabbel. When its Joe you also get a few sly digs about where he lives and his money as if that has to do with anything.

    I do not particularity like Joe Duffy's style nor do I listen to his show that often, however his life is interesting how he went to Trinity as a mature student and became a social worker that sort of thing so maybe his book is biased but Children do like to read about the lives of other children.

    The main issue I, as well as a lot of other people have is how two faced he is. He permanently uses the programme as a personal pulpit and soap box to have his populist, man-of-the-people digs at politicians etc whilst at the height of the recession he was taking €400,000+ per annum in wages off the taxpayer. He admits that his working hours are 10.30-15.30, 5 days a week for about 40 weeks per annum.

    He has taken Liveline, a programme for the people and uses it to promote his own interests, stories, friends and views. It has not been driven by the people for years, but instead by his opinions. Je cuts people off and shouts those down who disagree with his or express a view that it different to his and essentially wipes his arse with any rules regarding impartiality in state broadcasting.

    The TV show is something he has been pushing for years in RTE, which is a questionable use of state resources. He again pushes his own agenda and is twisting stories on it to suit his agenda and not reality. E.g. he stated that the guy who was shot dead for phoning him from Portlaoise prison wasn't shot because of the phone call. The whole country knows he was shot as a result of the clampdown that ensued after that, but Joe denies it as it doesn't suit his narrative.

    The book has been done to death at this stage. It's a hardback reference type book that costs €25, it's not childrens reading. He ahs used state resources like his radio programme and other RTE programmes to push and promote his book, something that I personally found distasteful.

    The fact that he was a mature student is irrelevant, I'm paying for a part time Masters at the moment, all mature students, almost of us are working. It's not a big deal, there's thousands of us around the country.

    If he is going to be pushing for the book to be sold in schools (Brendan O'Carroll is the opinion that every library should stock it) then that is a bit sick tbh. At the very least do a cheaper paperback version, HAVE IT PRINTED IN IRELAND please, and sell that.

    But I doubt the millionaire Mr Duffy will do that as it means a few cents less per book will end out in his pocket.


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  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dont see any sly digs myself just people calling it like they see it, the guy is a hypocrite that champions the little people and local business while having his buke printed in germany to avail of cheaper printing.

    Also there is an assumption that some proceeds of the buke are going to charity which isnt that case at all.

    All the while he is working as a contractor for rte and availing of the tax breaks associated and getting free advertising five days a week on his show.

    I do not know anything about his book did he publish it himself? It says it was published by Hachett books would he have any say in where it was printed? why would anyone assume some of the money was going to charity did he say that?. I do not listen to the show often enough to say how many time he mentioned it.

    My point is more about the sly nastiness you get on boards about media people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I would have serious questions re. the accuracy of the facts in Joe's buke given how shall I say his interpretation of facts on his show and his insistence on believing every single word his callers say - often regardless of conflicting evidence from other quarters. I'd imagine accuracy is not a word in his lexicon....


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The reason I do not listen to his show is because of the milking of callers and his sometime faux concern for the callers, but the show is very popular, thats called having an opinion on the show.

    I listen to Sean Moncrieff in the afternoons because I like his style of presenting and his self awareness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I do not know anything about his book did he publish it himself? It says it was published by Hachett books would he have any say in where it was printed? why would anyone assume some of the money was going to charity did he say that?. I do not listen to the show often enough to say how many time he mentioned it.

    My point is more about the sly nastiness you get on boards about media people.

    As the writer, he could insist on it being printed here, esp. given his particularly outspoken views on political parties printing paraphernalia outside of the state.

    He never said the proceeds were going to charity, no. That much is correct. But he constantly said the idea for the buke came about when he was asked by Jack and Jill Foundation to do something a few years ago. It was implied. There was no need to mention jack and Jill other than attempting to mislead that the proceeds were going to charity. Put it this way - he has never stated that they are not. And yes, it has been confirmed by the publishers that the profits go to one Joe Duffy only.

    He never stopped mentioning it on his show. It was ridiculous. He broke the world records for plugging and self promotion many times between launch and Christmas often using the most ridiculous segues to get w mention of the buke in. You're making out like he mentioned it once or twice - he never stopped. It was as I posted elsewhere both shameful and shameless and yet another a use of power by the hypocrite that he is.

    It's not sly nastiness as you describe it. It's the calling out of an obnoxious, opinionated, biased, self-promoting hypocritical egoist for what he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    "And then james conolly shot the poor little orphaned childer in the face"

    "but how does that make you feeel?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I do not know anything about his book did he publish it himself? It says it was published by Hachett books would he have any say in where it was printed? why would anyone assume some of the money was going to charity did he say that?. I do not listen to the show often enough to say how many time he mentioned it.

    My point is more about the sly nastiness you get on boards about media people.



    He deserves all the criticism he gets for that deeply depressing piss take that he calls a radio show.Listened to it once to see what it was like,lasted about thirty seconds.
    Thank God for Newstalk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I do not know anything about his book did he publish it himself? It says it was published by Hachett books would he have any say in where it was printed? why would anyone assume some of the money was going to charity did he say that?. I do not listen to the show often enough to say how many time he mentioned it.

    My point is more about the sly nastiness you get on boards about media people.

    Book is published by Hachette Ireland, a subsidiary of the French company. It is printed in Germany. Yes, he has full control over who publishes and prints it, getting it printed in Germany is cheaper.

    He alluded that no company here can print it. A Season of Sundays is one of Irelands biggest selling books, its printed in Dublin, and bound in Belfast, so that would be one more local possibility.

    FWIW Ciaran Mullooley of RTE news had his book printed in Longford. It's a small paperback, je could have had it done cheaper abroad no doubt.

    The charity angle is that he has said numerous times that the inspiration for the books came when the Jack & Jill Foundation asked him to paint an Easter egg. He did one with the names of all the kids who were killed in the rising on it.

    He has never said that money goes to charity, but he has left a fair few people with the impression that the Jack and Jill crowd would get something out of kt. After all the free publicity garnered through his personal use of RTE resources you'd think he might have given something. But no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Bambi wrote: »
    "And then james conolly shot the poor little orphaned childer in the face"

    "but how does that make you feeel?"

    Classic joe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Classic joe

    Classic joke would actually be more like this:

    And what colour were the bullets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Selling it in schools?

    I didn't mention sales, promoting is what he is at. The sales will follow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Joe is discussing the late David Bowie. Continues to call him BOWie as in rhyming with cow. That's the wacker Dublin affectation I think. Also Joe is so ignorant. He loves starting a music clip in the middle of a conversation with a caller, without warning. What's that all about ? No warnings or courtesy shown. So rude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Look, Ryan Tubs got his book about JFKs visit plenty of airtime a few years back. Now it's Joe's turn with 1916. You can't expect these RTE stars to merely live on their paycheck, they need to do a few nixers here and there. Poor guys.

    Next year it'll be Mike Murphy launching a book on the 20th anniversary of Notorious B.I.G.'s killing. Perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Crap angle for a 1916 book anyway.
    Could see it as a chapter,but how do you make a book out of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    kneemos wrote: »
    Crap angle for a 1916 book anyway.
    Could see it as a chapter,but how do you make a book out of it?
    a page about each one, couple of pics, you have yourself a buke right there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    kneemos wrote: »
    Crap angle for a 1916 book anyway.
    Could see it as a chapter,but how do you make a book out of it?

    Thousands appear to disagree, as it topped hardback sales over the Xmas period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    a page about each one, couple of pics, you have yourself a buke right there

    replace those images with traces & Joe would have himself a colour-din buke.

    special edition perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I got given the book for Kris Kindle in work. Gave it straight to the father-in-law as he's an old inner-city Dub who enjoyed the pictures of some parts of the city which still looked similar in his own childhood. If he hadn't wanted it, it'd have been straight into the recycling bin or the charity shop (where I imagine most copies of these will end up unread).

    Is there any link to an official announcement of a school tour? Want to make sure my kids school isn't on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Thousands appear to disagree, as it topped hardback sales over the Xmas period.


    Wouldn't take a lot to top hardback sales,given hardly anyone buys them and most do so online I'd imagine.
    Given he has his own radio show to publicise it I'd be surprised if it wasn't a top seller for the Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    To paraphrase Dan the Man...he should be taken out into the middle of a field, put up against a wall and shot once in the back of the head, Bang, Bang!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    To paraphrase Dan the Man...he should be taken out into the middle of a field, put up against a wall and shot once in the back of the head, Bang, Bang!

    "As a taxpayer, Joe, it's a disgrace, it is, Joe."


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