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Chris Gayle Controversy Was this Sexist?

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  • #32
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Why is he sexist because he hit on a woman?

    Get a grip of yourself .

    Don't bother reading the whole post or anything.


  • #33
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    There is a difference between sexism and sexual harassment. Chances are he's sexist too. The issue at hand though would fall under harassment at worst or inappropriate behaviour at best. The comments other journalists have made lead me to believe it's at worst.

    Not sure this link will work..... It did. One of the women gets a bit emotional at the start, please don't roll your eyes and turn it off. Listen to the whole thing if you're anyway interested on having a serious discussion about this. (I'm aware this is After Hours so I won't hold my breath)

    Check out @abcgrandstand's Tweet: https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand/status/684174084112908288?s=09

    what the f**k. blowing this way out of proportion.


  • #34
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    what the f**k. blowing this way out of proportion.

    Blowing it out of proportion how? It's part of a wider problem. You think it's one isolated incident despite being told he has a reputation for it?


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
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    Damn, always liked Chris Gayle, kinda assumed he'd have the partying lifestyle but that's stupid. Whether it's merely inappropriate or actually sexist is a bit moot, he was fined, issue done, move on.


  • #36
    wadacrack
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Blowing it out of proportion how? It's part of a wider problem. You think it's one isolated incident despite being told he has a reputation for it?
    that all speculation though. You dont really know what hes like.


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  • #37
    Pseudorandom
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    Peter Anthony wrote:


    This story is the most pathetic thing I've heard in quite a while. Some bimbo airhead who only got her job because of her looks gets hit on camera, ohhh the humanity. And yet theres a video of her hitting on some male model and nobody cares. The SJW Brigade outdone themselves here.

    Haha, I love satire,
    Peter Anthony wrote:
    The other day I heard men in American colleges are now being forced to get "consent" cards before they have sex with women in case they are accused of rape.... Would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic. Feminazis are finding out what real rape is in Sweden and Germany now they've allowed millions of Muslims to take over.

    ...wait, what?


  • #38
    Azalea
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    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Christ on a bike, Man asks out Girl, Girl turns out to be a lesbian and Man gets fined 10,000 for being sexist. :confused:

    Enough of the equality already, it's gone too far.
    warpdrive wrote: »
    A man asked out a woman...and news outlets are giving that attention?...Fuk this world
    Yeah the fine seems way OTT and I don't think it's sexist (inappropriate though) however you're being seriously dishonest by saying it was just a guy asking a woman out.
    You know it was unprofessional and inappropriate in that context.


  • #39
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    that all speculation though. You dont really know what hes like.

    Listen to the link I posted. Other journalists state he has a reputation for it. I doubt they're making it up. He's also been accused of flashing his bits at a female staff member at the World Cup.


  • #40
    Lights On
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    Rookie mistake to be honest. What he should have said is, "But of course all the female interviewers have lovely eyes". Then paused for a few seconds while looking into the camera, before giving a little wink down the lens and walking off screen.


  • #41
    Azalea
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    ken wrote: »
    I just realised if I got fined for every time I was stupid around women I'd be so broke I'd have to sell organs.
    But you didn't, because you weren't a professional sportsman and they weren't reporters. :)


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  • #42
    BettePorter
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    wadacrack wrote:
    She was clearly very uncomfortable, Id wonder what the media reaction would be if she seemed a bit more comfortable with what he saying.


    I agree. Had she had a witty comeback there probably wouldn't have been a word about it. I don't know of him but I presume hes some kind of star in his field so he's 'allowed' to be bold! In the real world he's just a sleazy knob.


  • #43
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    BettePorter wrote: »
    I agree. Had she had a witty comeback there probably wouldn't have been a word about it. I don't know of him but I presume hes some kind of star in his field so he's 'allowed' to be bold! In the real world he's just a sleazy knob.

    If it has been a player who was known for joking around in a friendly way maybe she would have responded differently. The fact the guy apparently has a reputation as a sleeze is probably why she didn't react well to it.


  • #44
    wadacrack
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Listen to the link I posted. Other journalists state he has a reputation for it. I doubt they're making it up. He's also been accused of flashing his bits at a female staff member at the World Cup.
    I have listened. He may have but it is only this incident that he is getting fined for, and it does seem a bit OTT to be fined 10,000

    He didnt really say anything sexual etc. But it was an uncomfortable vibe and inappropriate which is why it is getting coverage.

    Surprised seeing sexism being brought up to the extent it has


  • #45
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    BettePorter wrote: »
    I agree. Had she had a witty comeback there probably wouldn't have been a word about it. I don't know of him but I presume hes some kind of star in his field so he's 'allowed' to be bold! In the real world he's just a sleazy knob.

    He is a giant in the world of cricket, loads of firsts and records, former captain of the West Indies, real imposing batsman, one of the highest earners in the game, worth tens of millions. 10k would be lunch money.


  • #46
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    I have listened. He may have but it is only this incident that he is getting fined for, and it does seem a bit OTT to be fined 10,000

    He didnt really say anything sexual etc. But it was an uncomfortable vibe and inappropriate which is why it is getting coverage.

    Surprised seeing sexism being brought up to the extent it has

    The team fined him for it so it's on them. Either they think it's a serious enough one off to warrant that big a fine or they know it's an ongoing problem and are trying to stamp it out.


  • #47
    Call Me Jimmy
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    I havent looked at the clip or know what its about but look at this controversy over one man's possible sexism. if it turns out to be sexist then omg omg omg


  • #48
    The King of Moo
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Yeah and one of them was crying over this....:rolleyes:

    This story is the most pathetic thing I've heard in quite a while. Some bimbo airhead who only got her job because of her looks gets hit on camera, ohhh the humanity. And yet theres a video of her hitting on some male model and nobody cares. The SJW Brigade outdone themselves here.

    The other day I heard men in American colleges are now being forced to get "consent" cards before they have sex with women in case they are accused of rape....:pac: Would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic. Feminazis are finding out what real rape is in Sweden and Germany now they've allowed millions of Muslims to take over.

    Legitimate rape, you might say.


  • #49
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    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    I havent looked at the clip or know what its about but look at this controversy over one man's possible sexism. if it turns out to be sexist then omg omg omg

    No one is comparing it to the Syrian conflict, merely analysing the behaviour of a famous sports star.


  • #50
    Sound Bite
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    Not sexist at all. Inappropriate, unprofessional, weird, etc but not sexist


  • #51
    Goodshape
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    A person doing their job shouldn't be expected to just put up with and laugh off sexual advances like that.

    She's not hanging by the bar in a club, this is her job and she's conducting a professional interview with an athlete.

    To think this is a case of "woman can't take a compliment" is a textbook definition of sexist. As is the interviewee's conduct in the first place.


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  • #52
    Pseudorandom
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    Can all the "not sexist" people clarify if they agree it's unprofessional and not acceptable in the workplace? And if so, what exactly do they think the difference is between how those two things should be treated?


  • #53
    RayM
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Yeah and one of them was crying over this....:rolleyes:

    This story is the most pathetic thing I've heard in quite a while. Some bimbo airhead who only got her job because of her looks gets hit on camera, ohhh the humanity. And yet theres a video of her hitting on some male model and nobody cares. The SJW Brigade outdone themselves here.

    The other day I heard men in American colleges are now being forced to get "consent" cards before they have sex with women in case they are accused of rape....:pac: Would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic. Feminazis are finding out what real rape is in Sweden and Germany now they've allowed millions of Muslims to take over.

    'Bimbo airhead', 'SJW Brigade', 'Feminazis'. Capped off with a random reference to Muslims...

    Full marks for squeezing so much nasty, dim-witted prejudice into one short post!


  • #54
    Minderbinder
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    Well, if women chose to go out with shy, reserved, nerdy guys with no money like me rather than this kind of asshole then maybe he would change his approach and wouldn't be such a cocky sleazeball.

    This kind of reminds me of when a spectator asked Steffi Graff to marry him and she asked how much money did he have. Of course she had a sense of humour.


  • #55
    gothic_doll
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    Minderbinder wrote: »
    Well, if women chose to go out with shy, reserved, nerdy guys with no money like me rather than this kind of asshole...

    Some women love shy nerds with no money. Those women are also shy nerds with no money though, so you never meet them.:D

    The story- This wasn't sexist at all and it all feels quite set up (at least the response, news coverage, fine etc)

    We'll see what he's doing 1 year from now as a bit of fake 'controversy' often helps a career. This one is exceptionally fake and harmless.


  • #56
    Smidge
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    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Was it really? If a politician is doorstopped by a journalist and is told to F off, can the journalist sue them for unfair dismissal?

    I think that would be considered a different thing entirely tbh.

    The politician door stopping is essentially an "of the moment" situation no matter how much planning goes in on the politicians side.

    She was there in a professional capacity, as was he.
    Two professionals in an arranged situation in a work place isn't the same as a door knock.


  • #57
    cabla
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    I can't find the clip right now but of you check "Cricket Vines" on Facebook you'll find a clip of her blatantly flirting and asking out a man who is engaged and if anything being more sexist than Chris by saying how good the mans body looks! Check it out.

    It'll go down to the media being sexist over the controversy of a man flirting on TV over a woman doing the same thing on TV (equally unprofessional mind you).


  • #58
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    gothic_doll wrote: »
    We'll see what he's doing 1 year from now as a bit of fake 'controversy' often helps a career. This one is exceptionally fake and harmless.

    Trying to think of a cricket batsman whose career was helped by controversy.

    Can you name a few?


  • #59
    gothic_doll
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Trying to think of a cricket batsman whose career was helped by controversy.

    Can you name a few?

    Talking outside of cricket here. This was on major news outlets- people who'd have never heard of him (such as myself) have been introduced to him. Might get a few small talk-show spots, a few gossip column inches in the coming months. It's obviously a fairly harmless story set up to get people talking.


  • #60
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    gothic_doll wrote: »
    Talking outside of cricket here. This was on major news outlets- people who'd have never heard of him (such as myself) have been introduced to him. Might get a few small talk-show spots, a few gossip column inches in the coming months. It's obviously a fairly harmless story set up to get people talking.

    Chris Gayle has made tens of millions from the sport. He is one of its biggest stars, known by hundreds of millions around the world. Think of the biggest rugby star you know...waaaaaaaaay bigger.

    He would have neither the time nor need for "small talk show spots" or a "few gossip column inches"!


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  • #61
    Badly Drunk Boy
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnLHUr60HK0


    Was this a joke too far??

    Seems more odd than Sexist tbh
    I can't believe I had to witness some cricket!

    And to answer your question, I think it was just awkward playfulness.


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