Baz the lost Muslim

jamesbere · 22-12-2015 11:27AM

I don't like him, he's the worst hitman I've ever seen. He still hasn't killed his mother.

RobertKK · 22-12-2015 11:33AM

I thought it was an interesting program, something different for RTE.

22-12-2015 11:38AM

That cheap holiday show he used to be on was quite entertaining.

22-12-2015 11:45AM

He come across as harmless, but his jumping around is slightly annoying he cant seem to sit still.

Azalea · 22-12-2015 03:12PM

Thought it was quite balanced. He did say it does seem like a requirement to be detached from the rest of society in order to be fully devout, and he wasn't sure that that was a good thing.

There was a preview of next week too - it examines the extremist side of things.

donaghs · 22-12-2015 03:19PM

I wanted to hear more from the girl who thought music was evil.

gandalf · 22-12-2015 03:33PM

He used to annoy me but he is growing on me now. I thought the show with his Ma was very good and I watched the first episode of the Muslim show. I found it a bit awkward tbh but it was interesting. I'll watch the second episode tonight.

TBH I would sit down and have a drink with the guy (if he is still drinking that is !!!).

smash · 22-12-2015 03:43PM

I turned 40 and was going through a bit of a spirituality crisis and I thought, well let's have a look at what's out there. I've kind of had the same mantra for years, yeah I believe in something but I don't know what that is, nothing non-religious, no organised religions, I just thought I'll dip back into Islam because that's what I was born into.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/50-ways-star-baz-ashmawy-the-more-we-fight-against-muslims-living-here-the-more-it-feeds-into-daesh-propoganda-34307322.html

Yep. Seems like a legit reason to jump in to a religion. :rolleyes:

Nodin · 22-12-2015 04:56PM

nokia69 wrote: »

yeah its just propaganda to soften people up for the thousands of Syrians and other muslims that will be arriving in the years ahead

I see the same thing on the BBC all the time, and I bet its the same all over western Europe

its very easy to brain wash people

It must be hard to live in fear and suspicion all the time.

kettlehead · 23-12-2015 05:13AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

He's a condescending, patronising unfunny @rsehole. Unfortunately he has an Emmy award for his patronising, condescending show with his mother. I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

No matter where you are, no matter your views, never wish horrible death on people.

kettlehead · 23-12-2015 05:17AM

sligojoek wrote: »

So when are we getting a programme to tell us how great the protestants are?

The antiques roadshow.

El Horseboxo · 23-12-2015 09:13AM

granturismo wrote: »

And his 'tears' after muslim prayers with the american in Ballyhaunis in episode 1. If they were genuine they were probably due to memories of praying with his father as a child, he gave the impression that he was emotional after having some sort of religious experience.

No he didn't. I only watched this online earlier after seeing it posted here. He clearly indicated that the last person he would have prayed with was his father. And that's what hit him. If there's one thing from this it's that he doesn't overly embrace the religious aspect. But sees a cultural identity in the world of Islam.

kettlehead · 23-12-2015 09:54AM

Baz is back on the gargul - and watch what he does next!

Summer season in RTE.

Annasopra · 23-12-2015 11:05AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

So you want them both dead? Seriously irrational

Annasopra · 23-12-2015 11:08AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He moved to Ireland when he was 8 after his parents got divorced, he didn't even meet his sister until he was 17 or 18, she's his fathers daughter from his second marriage.
He lived in Egypt for something like 2 years after finishing his leaving cert but Cairo in the mid 90's wasn't exactly like living in Riyadh, he could have been living there and not practising like millions of other Muslims in the city.

So his experience of "practising" Islam came from being a toddler until he was 8, and then a handful of years in his early adulthood. I'd be stunned if he was aware of the ins and outs of it all.

Oh of course these are the facts. Some people just like a good conspiracy theory when it comes to Muslims.

Tombo2001 · 23-12-2015 11:17AM

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

DeclanRe · 23-12-2015 11:25AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

Just change the channel you clown! Wanting someone dead because you don't like the content they are producing, the RTE offices would be empty if everyone had the same mindset as you!

Call me Al · 23-12-2015 11:30AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

Oh thank you tombo.

It's like being in an alternative universe of Victor Meldrews at times in here.
It was interesting to hear the opinions of others with different cultural exposure.

stmol32 · 23-12-2015 12:33PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Couldn't you just change the name slightly alter the format.

If you can copyright this format could you copyright the format of Frasier Seinfeld etc even though if you did so it would impossible to 100% prove someone was copying those shows.

I've been pitching this title to TV3

"Lets f**k up me Granny... for the craic like!"

Red King · 23-12-2015 12:41PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

Agree. My girlfriend is Muslim, albeit not religious at all. But it is her culture and that of her family and friends. Absolutely lovely people who have been unbelievably welcoming to me since we started dating. Funnily enough they have been asking me all about Christmas and our traditions and this year put up a Christmas tree and decorations and lights outside their house. They have Irish citizenship and want to embrace the culture here.

It has been so awkward at times however with the anti-muslim bile people have been spewing online, in the media and when you are out and about.

It must make them feel very uncomfortable at times.

Thargor · 23-12-2015 12:44PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

He's a condescending, patronising unfunny @rsehole. Unfortunately he has an Emmy award for his patronising, condescending show with his mother. I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

Whats this now?

Green Peter · 23-12-2015 12:45PM

Thought it was an excellent programme, those with stereotypes might find it challenging alright!

alchemist33 · 23-12-2015 12:48PM

Thargor wrote: »

Whats this now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late,_Late_Breakfast_Show#Death_of_Michael_Lush

Tombo2001 · 23-12-2015 12:49PM

I wonder is it possible to divide this thread into all the nutcases, and all the normal people.....so that all the nutcases can have their conversation, and the normal people can have a separate conversation.....

Mods?

aphex™ · 25-12-2015 10:34PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I wonder is it possible to divide this thread into all the nutcases, and all the normal people.....so that all the nutcases can have their conversation, and the normal people can have a separate conversation.....

Mods?

You mean the people who support the people who support beating women, and the rest?

PARlance · 25-12-2015 10:39PM

aphex™ wrote: »

You mean the people who support the people who support beating women, and the rest?

Ah come on now... you can support beating women without being Muslim.

aphex™ · 25-12-2015 10:45PM

PARlance wrote: »

Ah come on now... you can support beating women without being Muslim.

True, but it's legal if you're a muslim. Under Sharia law.
It's illegal for everybody else.

GardeningGirl · 25-12-2015 10:50PM

Red King wrote:

Agree. My girlfriend is Muslim, albeit not religious at all. But it is her culture and that of her family and friends. Absolutely lovely people who have been unbelievably welcoming to me since we started dating. Funnily enough they have been asking me all about Christmas and our traditions and this year put up a Christmas tree and decorations and lights outside their house. They have Irish citizenship and want to embrace the culture here.

Hiya, sorry but what is being muslim and not religious? To be a muslim is to submit to God and His commands. I don't see how these are together if she is not practicing the Islamic religion?

If you're happy it's great and I'm totally not slandering that but I just think to say they have a muslim culture is not correct, it's more likely their homeland traditions?
Happy Christmas to u

Frank Grimes · 25-12-2015 10:54PM

GardeningGirl wrote: »

Hiya, sorry but what is being muslim and not religious? To be a muslim is to submit to God and His commands. I don't see how these are together if she is not practicing the Islamic religion?

If you're happy it's great and I'm totally not slandering that but I just think to say they have a muslim culture is not correct, it's more likely their homeland traditions?
Happy Christmas to u

No different to people in Ireland claiming to be Catholic while not practising the religion in any manner whatsoever. I have met Muslims who would describe themselves in this way too.

PARlance · 25-12-2015 11:03PM

aphex™ wrote: »

True, but it's legal if you're a muslim. Under Sharia law.
It's illegal for everybody else.

Well as an Irishman I won't throw too many stones. We were allowed to rape our wives until 1990.

Baz the lost Muslim

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