Baz the lost Muslim

hurikane

How has this fella gone from strength to strength? Can't watch him for more than 5 minutes.

I thought getting done for drink driving would spell the end for him. Didn't think I'd ever have to look at him on the box ever again.

kettlehead

It's actually a pretty good show and he seems a decent sort, if a bit naive. The show is a bit biased but worth a gander. Even with that bias, there is a lot of worrying stuff on it.

frag420

You should use those buttons on the chsnnel changer contraption to change station to something else......

MaryAntoinette

He will be on the front cover of the RTE guide next.

Lights On

He went from strength to strength by posting threads online about TV presenters he didn't like :P

Wasn't a bad first show to be fair, more interested in part two as it deals with the fallout from Paris and the more radical sides of the religion.

Jan Laco

Baz the couldn't use you in any other production any more because your mom got tired and we all got to love muslim trend is in

kneemos

Owns the franchise for that mother son stunt scenario,pretty popular in parts apparently.
Looks a fairly inoffensive sort what I've seen of him.

Dirty Dingus McGee

kneemos wrote: »

Owns the franchise for that mother son stunt scenario,pretty popular in parts apparently.
Looks a fairly inoffensive sort what I've seen of him.

How the **** will that work.

I can't imagine there would be anyway of stopping someone making a similar programme or making money off a similar programme.

Ally Dick

He's a condescending, patronising unfunny @rsehole. Unfortunately he has an Emmy award for his patronising, condescending show with his mother. I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

batistuta9

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

How the **** will that work.

I can't imagine there would be anyway of stopping someone making a similar programme or making money off a similar programme.

Copyright

kneemos

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

How the **** will that work.

I can't imagine there would be anyway of stopping someone making a similar programme or making money off a similar programme.

Same as Top Gear or X Factor.Similar to a patent I presume.

Dirty Dingus McGee

kneemos wrote: »

Same as Top Gear or X Factor.Similar to a patent I presume.

Couldn't you just change the name slightly alter the format.

If you can copyright this format could you copyright the format of Frasier Seinfeld etc even though if you did so it would impossible to 100% prove someone was copying those shows.

nokia69

That travel show he did years ago was one of the worse things RTE have ever made

him and his friends were the biggest assholes on the planet :mad:

Hammer89

Don't see anything wrong with the bloke myself.

Billy86

Jan Laco wrote: »

we all got to love muslim trend is in

Sentence be say us the word make no.

HamsterFace

nokia69 wrote: »

That travel show he did years ago was one of the worse things RTE have ever made

him and his friends were the biggest assholes on the planet :mad:

Hated that, but have softened towards him. The mammy show is actually good, this doc isn't too deep but a fairly easy watch.

kneemos

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Couldn't you just change the name slightly alter the format.

If you can copyright this format could you copyright the format of Frasier Seinfeld etc even though if you did so it would impossible to 100% prove someone was copying those shows.

If it was similar yeah.The BBC has a ****e load of original programmes franchised around the world.
Game shows are all copies of each,as are things like Gogglebox and QI.

Dirty Dingus McGee

kneemos wrote: »

If it was similar yeah.The BBC has a ****e load of original programmes franchised around the world.
Game shows are all copies of each,as are things like Gogglebox and QI.

Gameshows are quite restrictive formats though.

I'd imagine it would be very easy to do something with the same effect but not actually directly copy the show.

A travel programme would be very easy to copy without directly copying it.You could make an argument that any travel show that involves travelling around the world , going to the Himalaya's,Brazil etc is a copy of Michael Palins show but I'd imagine it wouldn't have a chance of holding up.

sligojoek

So when are we getting a programme to tell us how great the protestants are?

RikkFlair

The bit on Ballyhaunis I found interesting, had no idea there was a mosque there.

Junkyard Tom

Ally Dick wrote: »

I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

That's a most irrational level of hate you've got going on there.

Billy86

kneemos wrote: »

If it was similar yeah.The BBC has a ****e load of original programmes franchised around the world.
Game shows are all copies of each,as are things like Gogglebox and QI.

RTE's most successful ever show? Apparently, The f'king Lyrics Board - adapted by no less than 14 other countries! Though it looks like Lebanon cancelled theirs this year, which was the only one still running.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lyrics_Board

Ally Dick

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

That's a most irrational level of hate you've got going on there.

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

Herb Powell

Ally Dick wrote: »

He's a condescending, patronising unfunny @rsehole. Unfortunately he has an Emmy award for his patronising, condescending show with his mother. I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

Ally Dick wrote: »

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

Ally-hu Akbar ??

Paramite Pie

sligojoek wrote: »

So when are we getting a programme to tell us how great the protestants are?

A lot of people know very little about Muslims in this country and their daily lives - hence the show. What harm is it?

Most of us are well versed on Catholics & Protestants. Even then, I'm sure there has been shows about them over the years.

KungPao

I have only seen the first part so far. Not bad, but it felt like those second-rate reality docs you'd see with Reggie Yates on BBC 3. Easy to watch and doesn't really challenge the viewer.

I also don't buy his ignorance of all things Islam...defo hamming it up for the cameras.

topmanamillion

KungPao wrote: »

I have only seen the first part so far. Not bad, but it felt like those second-rate reality docs you'd see with Reggie Yates on BBC 3. Easy to watch and doesn't really challenge the viewer.

I also don't buy his ignorance of all things Islam...defo hamming it up for the cameras.

Ya definitely. His father was a Muslim after all and Baz spent his younger years as a Muslim until his mother converted him to catholicism. I heard him saying his half sister is a Muslim and I can only assume he has a lot more relatives who are Muslims too. Very unbelievable that he would be as clueless as he's letting on.

nokia69

KungPao wrote: »

I have only seen the first part so far. Not bad, but it felt like those second-rate reality docs you'd see with Reggie Yates on BBC 3. Easy to watch and doesn't really challenge the viewer.

I also don't buy his ignorance of all things Islam...defo hamming it up for the cameras.

yeah its just propaganda to soften people up for the thousands of Syrians and other muslims that will be arriving in the years ahead

I see the same thing on the BBC all the time, and I bet its the same all over western Europe

its very easy to brain wash people

Subcomandante Marcos

topmanamillion wrote: »

Ya definitely. His father was a Muslim after all and Baz spent his younger years as a Muslim until his mother converted him to catholicism. I heard him saying his half sister is a Muslim and I can only assume he has a lot more relatives who are Muslims too. Very unbelievable that he would be as clueless as he's letting on.

He moved to Ireland when he was 8 after his parents got divorced, he didn't even meet his sister until he was 17 or 18, she's his fathers daughter from his second marriage.
He lived in Egypt for something like 2 years after finishing his leaving cert but Cairo in the mid 90's wasn't exactly like living in Riyadh, he could have been living there and not practising like millions of other Muslims in the city.

So his experience of "practising" Islam came from being a toddler until he was 8, and then a handful of years in his early adulthood. I'd be stunned if he was aware of the ins and outs of it all.

aphex™

nokia69 wrote: »

yeah its just propaganda to soften people up for the thousands of Syrians and other muslims that will be arriving in the years ahead

I see the same thing on the BBC all the time, and I bet its the same all over western Europe

its very easy to brain wash people

Then if you look at BBC topical and local discussion shows it's all local issues about how they go about integrating muslim/sharia law fanatics into society.

Sick of hearing about it.

granturismo

KungPao wrote: »

I also don't buy his ignorance of all things Islam...defo hamming it up for the cameras.

And his 'tears' after muslim prayers with the american in Ballyhaunis in episode 1. If they were genuine they were probably due to memories of praying with his father as a child, he gave the impression that he was emotional after having some sort of religious experience.

jamesbere

I don't like him, he's the worst hitman I've ever seen. He still hasn't killed his mother.

RobertKK

I thought it was an interesting program, something different for RTE.

Liam O

That cheap holiday show he used to be on was quite entertaining.

He come across as harmless, but his jumping around is slightly annoying he cant seem to sit still.

Azalea

Thought it was quite balanced. He did say it does seem like a requirement to be detached from the rest of society in order to be fully devout, and he wasn't sure that that was a good thing.

There was a preview of next week too - it examines the extremist side of things.

donaghs

I wanted to hear more from the girl who thought music was evil.

gandalf

He used to annoy me but he is growing on me now. I thought the show with his Ma was very good and I watched the first episode of the Muslim show. I found it a bit awkward tbh but it was interesting. I'll watch the second episode tonight.

TBH I would sit down and have a drink with the guy (if he is still drinking that is !!!).

smash

I turned 40 and was going through a bit of a spirituality crisis and I thought, well let's have a look at what's out there. I've kind of had the same mantra for years, yeah I believe in something but I don't know what that is, nothing non-religious, no organised religions, I just thought I'll dip back into Islam because that's what I was born into.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/50-ways-star-baz-ashmawy-the-more-we-fight-against-muslims-living-here-the-more-it-feeds-into-daesh-propoganda-34307322.html

Yep. Seems like a legit reason to jump in to a religion. :rolleyes:

Nodin

nokia69 wrote: »

yeah its just propaganda to soften people up for the thousands of Syrians and other muslims that will be arriving in the years ahead

I see the same thing on the BBC all the time, and I bet its the same all over western Europe

its very easy to brain wash people

It must be hard to live in fear and suspicion all the time.

kettlehead

Ally Dick wrote: »

He's a condescending, patronising unfunny @rsehole. Unfortunately he has an Emmy award for his patronising, condescending show with his mother. I would hope that in the not too distant future, a stunt goes horribly wrong, similar to the Late Late Breakfast show, and the show is cancelled following the funerals

No matter where you are, no matter your views, never wish horrible death on people.

kettlehead

sligojoek wrote: »

So when are we getting a programme to tell us how great the protestants are?

The antiques roadshow.

El Horseboxo

granturismo wrote: »

And his 'tears' after muslim prayers with the american in Ballyhaunis in episode 1. If they were genuine they were probably due to memories of praying with his father as a child, he gave the impression that he was emotional after having some sort of religious experience.

No he didn't. I only watched this online earlier after seeing it posted here. He clearly indicated that the last person he would have prayed with was his father. And that's what hit him. If there's one thing from this it's that he doesn't overly embrace the religious aspect. But sees a cultural identity in the world of Islam.

kettlehead

Baz is back on the gargul - and watch what he does next!

Summer season in RTE.

Annasopra

Ally Dick wrote: »

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

So you want them both dead? Seriously irrational

Annasopra

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He moved to Ireland when he was 8 after his parents got divorced, he didn't even meet his sister until he was 17 or 18, she's his fathers daughter from his second marriage.
He lived in Egypt for something like 2 years after finishing his leaving cert but Cairo in the mid 90's wasn't exactly like living in Riyadh, he could have been living there and not practising like millions of other Muslims in the city.

So his experience of "practising" Islam came from being a toddler until he was 8, and then a handful of years in his early adulthood. I'd be stunned if he was aware of the ins and outs of it all.

Oh of course these are the facts. Some people just like a good conspiracy theory when it comes to Muslims.

Tombo2001

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

DeclanRe

Ally Dick wrote: »

Nah. I'm sick of him and his "mammy". Time for them both to go

Just change the channel you clown! Wanting someone dead because you don't like the content they are producing, the RTE offices would be empty if everyone had the same mindset as you!

Call me Al

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

Oh thank you tombo.

It's like being in an alternative universe of Victor Meldrews at times in here.
It was interesting to hear the opinions of others with different cultural exposure.

stmol32

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Couldn't you just change the name slightly alter the format.

If you can copyright this format could you copyright the format of Frasier Seinfeld etc even though if you did so it would impossible to 100% prove someone was copying those shows.

I've been pitching this title to TV3

"Lets f**k up me Granny... for the craic like!"

Red King

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Interesting show; don't know why so many people dislike it.....culturally interesting, teaches you a lot about a side to Ireland you don't see every day.

I'd kind of wonder all the people who say they hate it; what show do you actually like........apart from Breaking Bad..... what show on RTE do you actually like? Some people just hate everything....and are predisposed to hating everything.

This show, I can identify with feeling culturally muslim even if not going along with the religious side to it .......a lot of people who have grown up in Ireland going to mass every sunday......and then decide that they are not particularly believers themselves....may still feel quite emotional about sitting in a full cathedral with candles lit, listening to a choir singing Silent Night on Christmas Eve.

Agree. My girlfriend is Muslim, albeit not religious at all. But it is her culture and that of her family and friends. Absolutely lovely people who have been unbelievably welcoming to me since we started dating. Funnily enough they have been asking me all about Christmas and our traditions and this year put up a Christmas tree and decorations and lights outside their house. They have Irish citizenship and want to embrace the culture here.

It has been so awkward at times however with the anti-muslim bile people have been spewing online, in the media and when you are out and about.

It must make them feel very uncomfortable at times.