Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

Alek · 18-12-2015 10:17am

In depth reviews of both units:

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2009/12/garmin-edge-500-in-depth-review.html

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/07/garmin-edge-520.html

I would definitely go for the 520, if only for the mapping.

Qualitymark · 18-12-2015 10:24am

Thanks, Alek, good advice. Though what, er, is the mapping?

Beasty · 18-12-2015 10:30am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Though what, er, is the mapping?

GPS technology provides a real-time map of where you are (or where you've been, or indeed where you are going to if you pre-load a route)

Qualitymark · 18-12-2015 10:36am

Ah, right, satnav thingy. Thanks.

Wishbone Ash · 18-12-2015 10:43am

Entries for 2016 Wicklow 200 now open. (Sunday 12th June).

http://www.wicklow200.ie/how-to-enter/

Alek · 18-12-2015 10:48am

Entries for 2016 Evil 200 are open too.

Qualitymark · 18-12-2015 10:51am

Ridley Scott's first film, Boy and Bicycle, is now viewable online for free.

http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-boy-and-bicycle-1965/

or

Wishbone Ash · 18-12-2015 12:06pm

Alek wrote: »

Entries for 2016 Evil 200 are open too.

Do the 4 of us who finished last August's one get to the front of the grid for 2016?

(PS - did anyone do it on the traditional day before the WW200 last June?)

Alek · 18-12-2015 12:13pm

4? Not 5?

( Irishrover99 and one other chap did it on the day

)

daragh_ · 18-12-2015 12:42pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Do the 4 of us who finished last August's one get to the front of the grid for 2016?

Depends. You may want to look at the 2016 Route before you shoulder your way to the front

Alek · 18-12-2015 1:03pm

You may want to look at the 2016 Route

daragh_ · 18-12-2015 1:09pm

How do we feel about 'slightly' extending the distance?

Alek · 18-12-2015 1:19pm

I'd rather add some climbing

Wishbone Ash · 18-12-2015 1:29pm

Alek wrote: »

4? Not 5?..

Apologies, you are correct - there were 2 that could not take the suffering any longer?

Wishbone Ash · 18-12-2015 1:31pm

daragh_ wrote: »

How do we feel about 'slightly' extending the distance?

Yes - 262kms with 4,250m of climbing wasn't enough! :pac:

daragh_ · 18-12-2015 2:03pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Yes - 262kms with 4,250m of climbing wasn't enough! :pac:

Exactly. Let's make 2016 a real challenge.

Unknown Soldier · 18-12-2015 7:55pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Entries for 2016 Wicklow 200 now open. (Sunday 12th June).

http://www.wicklow200.ie/how-to-enter/

Having met and chatted to the fella with the 0001 on his back... you don't want to go there

I'll give it a few weeks before I sign up. Great day out on the bike.

Besides that... anyone have any idea how much a set of Reynolds 81 SLG full carbon wheels might be worth? Like the one in the pic linked below?

http://triathlete-europe.competitor.com/2012/07/26/gear-review-reynolds-eighty-one-aero-wheels

Unknown Soldier · 18-12-2015 8:47pm

Alek wrote: »

In depth reviews of both units:

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2009/12/garmin-edge-500-in-depth-review.html

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/07/garmin-edge-520.html

I would definitely go for the 520, if only for the mapping.

I'd go for the 520 too but not for the mapping.... Only plus points over previous models. ..quicker GPS attainment. thats the benefit over the 510/500
510 allows you to bluetooth your data to garmin/Strava which is cool but once you go higher end, they drain the battery. You'll end up turning off all the toys and being left with a 510. Unless you use maps, a lot.

Qualitymark · 18-12-2015 11:28pm

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

I'd go for the 520 too but not for the mapping.... Only plus points over previous models. ..quicker GPS attainment. thats the benefit over the 510/500
510 allows you to bluetooth your data to garmin/Strava which is cool but once you go higher end, they drain the battery. You'll end up turning off all the toys and being left with a 510. Unless you use maps, a lot.

Nuisance that the battery's built in and you can't swap them in and out. Allegedly 15 hours battery life…?

Wishbone Ash · 19-12-2015 8:26am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Nuisance that the battery's built in and you can't swap them in and out. Allegedly 15 hours battery life…?

Portable chargers allow you to re-charge mid-ride. (Specific cable required to prevent activity re-setting to zero). I have this one for my old 500 but Gomadic assure me that it can also be used on the 810 (Haven't tried it yet).

http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-edge-500-portable-aa-battery-extender.html

Unknown Soldier · 19-12-2015 9:30am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Nuisance that the battery's built in and you can't swap them in and out. Allegedly 15 hours battery life…?

Don't know about the 520 but the 1000 with ALL the toys off (wifi/BT) and all sensors off bar the ones you are using, along with the screen at brightness level 1 out of 10, 9-10 hours. I do have it set for 1 second data intervals rather than "smart" though. On a 100k spin I'd have it at 30-40% or so left.

There was a huge update a couple of weeks ago and I think it has improved the battery life for some reason even though the update was for maps or something. Not sure why but it just seems to be decreasing at a slower rate.

Eamonnator · 19-12-2015 10:03am

I have a rechargeable Duracell recharger.
Is it safe to use it on my Garmin 500?

Wishbone Ash · 19-12-2015 10:59am

Eamonnator wrote: »

I have a rechargeable Duracell recharger.
Is it safe to use it on my Garmin 500?

Safe from damaging the Garmin unit or safe from resetting the ride?

Alek · 19-12-2015 11:27am

800 does not reset when you plug in external power, I imagine newer units also don't

Wishbone Ash · 19-12-2015 11:30am

Alek wrote: »

800 does not reset when you plug in external power, I imagine newer units also don't

Regardless of whether it switched off or 'on the move'?

Alek · 19-12-2015 7:56pm

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Regardless of whether it switched off or 'on the move'?

Positive.

Unknown Soldier · 19-12-2015 8:46pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Regardless of whether it switched off or 'on the move'?

Now, most USB cables are data/power. You can get power only which are OK with the 500 as far as I could gather. It's down to the pins in them, I think.

Wishbone Ash · 19-12-2015 9:09pm

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

... It's down to the pins in them, I think.

Yes - the cable I use hasn't any pins.

If I think of it, I'll take the charger to work tomorrow and try the 500 charger on the 810. I'll turn off the 810 without saving it and charge it see if it resets the ride. If it does, it won't matter. Better than resetting it during a 300k ride!

Raam · 19-12-2015 9:15pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Yes - the cable I use hasn't any pins.

If I think of it, I'll take the charger to work tomorrow and try the 500 charger on the 810. I'll turn off the 810 without uploading it and charge it see if it resets the ride. If it does, it won't matter. Better than resetting it during a 300k ride!

Whut?

Wishbone Ash · 19-12-2015 9:26pm

Raam wrote: »

Whut?

Just the metallic external empty shell insert to power device without data transfer.

Raam · 19-12-2015 9:31pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Just the metallic external empty shell insert to power device without data transfer.

Are you sure? I always thought they just removed/disabled some of the pins.

OleRodrigo · 19-12-2015 9:34pm

Lumen · 20-12-2015 7:00am

Raam wrote: »

Are you sure? I always thought they just removed/disabled some of the pins.

This seems easy, particularly if you have some heatshrink lying around to tidy up the outer afterwards.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-USB-no-data-charger-cable/?ALLSTEPS

Wishbone Ash · 20-12-2015 8:07am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

...If I think of it, I'll take the charger to work tomorrow and try the 500 charger on the 810. I'll turn off the 810 without saving it and charge it see if it resets the ride. If it does, it won't matter. Better than resetting it during a 300k ride!

Tried that this morning - worked fine without resetting.

Eamonnator · 20-12-2015 10:00am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Safe from damaging the Garmin unit or safe from resetting the ride?

Safe from resetting the ride

Wishbone Ash · 20-12-2015 10:08am

Eamonnator wrote: »

Safe from resetting the ride

Are there pins inside the end of the cable?

You could try it on a short ride of no consequence. Bring the charger with you. Stop for a break or whatever, stop the Garmin and turn it off without saving the ride. Plug in the charger for a while and then switch the Garmin back on again and see if it picks up where it left off.

Unknown Soldier · 20-12-2015 11:39am

For those lunatic Audax type rides...It's worth noting that Edges do have Data history limitations. The the 520 is 180 hours or something like that. Or it might be 200 files. The Edge 20 only stores 20 rides. Not sure if it just overwrites the older one or "something" from the 20/25 manual "When the device memory if full, your oldest data is overwritten"

I tend to hook my edge to a PC once a month and go into the Activities folder, highlight last months Data and right click, send to compressed folder/zip. email the zip file to myself and then delete the older rides. It also speeds up uploads as it doesn't have to check loads of historic files.

Qualitymark · 20-12-2015 1:40pm

Australian genius Duncan Gay says the way to protect cyclists from being killed is to give them licences.

ednwireland · 20-12-2015 4:59pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

Australian genius Duncan Gay says the way to protect cyclists from being killed is to give them licences.

Genius cos that works for cars and motorcycles or is it just to identify them afterwards ffs

Qualitymark · 20-12-2015 5:32pm

Like high-viz, licence plates are a secular Miraculous Medal that protect the cyclist.

tomasrojo · 20-12-2015 11:26pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

Australian genius Duncan Gay says the way to protect cyclists from being killed is to give them licences.

It might be time to start offering asylum to Australian cyclists.

Harrybelafonte · 21-12-2015 12:48am

So... Etiquette query. Was passed out by a small club spin when out on my own this morning. Spent a few kms sitting behind them. About 100-150ms. Felt a bit weird but they had their thing. I had mine. The pace was a bit slower than I'd have liked, so I overtook and went on my way. Bad form?

These little things don't matter but they do.

Raam · 21-12-2015 12:51am

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

So... Etiquette query. Was passed out by a small club spin when out on my own this morning. Spent a few kms sitting behind them. About 100-150ms. Felt a bit weird but they had their thing. I had mine. The pace was a bit slower than I'd have liked, so I overtook and went on my way. Bad form?

These little things don't matter but they do.

Nope. Do whatever you want.

RobFowl · 21-12-2015 6:41am

Raam wrote: »

Nope. Do whatever you want.

Just be aware they were talking about and laughing at you ...

If they were going too slow how come they caught and passed you

Harrybelafonte · 21-12-2015 7:56am

RobFowl wrote: »

Just be aware they were talking about and laughing at you ...

If they were going too slow how come they caught and passed you

Well, thanks to Strava Flybys they know exactly who I am.

I was recovering from having momentarily caught my testicle between my saddle and my leg. Personally, I think they heard my cry if pain and figured they'd pounce.

CramCycle · 21-12-2015 8:09am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Like high-viz, licence plates are a secular Miraculous Medal that protect the cyclist.

My mother in law got her license without a test, she has never been in an accident but she is a terrible driver. She also has a miraculous medal in the car and a bottle of holy water for all journeys.

Either the piece of paper is more beneficial than the test, the medals work, both together act as a forcefield from danger or, controversially to many drivers who have shouted at other drivers, not being in an accident does not mean you are a good or safe driver, it's just a statement that has no impact on future road events involving that person.

rollingscone · 21-12-2015 8:24am

tomasrojo wrote: »

It might be time to start offering asylum to Australian cyclists.

Must...share...so...on...the...nose...

https://twitter.com/Flaminghobo1/status/664188753284583428?s=09

manafana · 21-12-2015 10:23am

CramCycle wrote: »

My mother in law got her license without a test, she has never been in an accident but she is a terrible driver. She also has a miraculous medal in the car and a bottle of holy water for all journeys.

Either the piece of paper is more beneficial than the test, the medals work, both together act as a forcefield from danger or, controversially to many drivers who have shouted at other drivers, not being in an accident does not mean you are a good or safe driver, it's just a statement that has no impact on future road events involving that person.

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

Qualitymark · 21-12-2015 10:33am

manafana wrote: »

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

It also means you passed that particular time's testing standards. I failed a test for not doing something that today you'd be failed for doing - applying the handbrake at a red light.

CramCycle · 21-12-2015 10:41am

manafana wrote: »

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

The required standard for her was to fill in a form.

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Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion