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Is tipping now expected in Ireland?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,655 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    I'm a Dub & I don't tip :eek:

    I was going to thank your post... But then I thought 'tight fωcker'! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,069 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    The same doesnt apply in Ireland you obnoxious oaf. People tip in Tipperary town, in Tullamore and in Killarney. They tip all over. People are just people and throughout this thread you have demonstrated a belief that people from Dublin are somehow more enlightened and have better social graces - i'm afraid you yourself disprove that, aside from the fact its utter nonsense.

    Yes it does.

    Rural people don't tip as much as city people. Work as a waiter/waitress and you'll soon learn. It's ok, that's the way it is, I still think you're a great bunch of lads.

    (ease off on the personal abuse please)
    Whenever the word Dublin is mentioned Rambo goes into full on attack mode.

    Nonsense Mister Vain, read back on the thread, I mentioned that I was a Dub, so I tip and I got a this enraged overreaction from Mysterio!
    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Wtf! confused.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,316 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Nonsense Mister Vain, read back on the thread, I mentioned that I was a Dub, so I tip and I got a this enraged overreaction from Mysterio!

    Any thread where someone posts an experience they had in Dublin that's even remotely negative you get incredibly defensive and try to contradict them. You're always at it. Give it a rest man. There's no agenda here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    No it's not part of our culture. In the US these people are on about $2 an hour, plus 15% of the bill on each table they service. Just a different system entirely to what's practiced over here.

    Leave the change or whatever if you feel the service was to a very high standard but never feel obliged to do so.

    The min wage is per state, with the majority paying over $7. There are two states with no minimum wage and only one state with a minimum wage of $2.

    http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

    Tip if the service is good, don't tip if it's shít. Obligaroty tipping is bullcrap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,069 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Any thread where someone posts an experience they had in Dublin that's even remotely negative you get incredibly defensive and try to contradict them. You're always at it. Give it a rest man. There's no agenda here.

    I sort of like doing it though. And more than often they're wrong. But, I'll take your advice and ease off on it. I know there's no agenda.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭haymur


    Staff at Burger King and McD'd and other fast food joints dont get tipped here and it seemed the same in the US and I am sure they are not on high wages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭zcorpian88


    Honestly I'm not big on tipping. I tip only when the service goes above and beyond the acceptable standard. I don't see why I should give someone my hard earned money when they don't work hard to earn it.

    This is especially the case in Ireland where tipping has not been the done thing (until recently at least). In America I'd be more flexible but in Ireland people in the service industry would be better paid.

    So, do you tip? If so, how much and why?

    Lot of hotel workers I know have gotten their hours cut from full time down to part time hours and struggle to get by, even happens coming up to Christmas when hotels become very quiet, saying hotel workers don't work hard is a bit of a sweeping generalization Minderbinder, my own mother worked like a dog in a hotel for 12 years during the 90's and well into the boom years and she was rarely tipped. My Dad still works in a hotel and I haven't heard of him getting a tip since the economy went to hell.

    My Dad is 50 odd years old worked as a night porter for most of his working life in hotels, had to deal with making guests comfortable along with all the negatives of the job, a lot of drunken scumbags that keep the hotel up half the night with general anti-social behaviour, rowdy hen-nights, rows from rich d**kheads demanding this that and the other thing, language barriers with guests, having drug users and dealers turfed out of wherever he was working.

    Is tipping expected in Ireland, in most Irish hotels, I think it should be, every little helps, the extra few bob might make up for a lot that they might have to deal with on the job that you might not know about. The amount of stories my Dad has told me over the years of idiot managers, troublesome guests that do all sorts that make the job a wreck the head as well as that he's picked up all sorts of injuries on the job, likely to be from lugging tables around for functions that were on. He's currently in a heap with pretty bad shoulder injury and can't even take the time off to mend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Sleepy wrote: »
    We were a perfect example of why it was crazy - she got the same wage as I did but came home with nearly twice the cash simply for being a pretty girl who happened to work in an industry that benefits from the Americanisation of our culture.
    I knew lads in college who went to boston for patricks day and a few days after, the single day working in a pub on paddys day with tips paid for their flights and entire trip. It's ludicrous over there, they were going on about how stupid it was, tipping even more because they were actually irish.
    haymur wrote: »
    Staff at Burger King and McD'd and other fast food joints dont get tipped here and it seemed the same in the US and I am sure they are not on high wages
    My mate tipped in a white castle in the US, it was very awkward, they did not know what to make of it and we were saying to him after "ye eejit, you don't tip in a place like this". You could see them telling other staff. When we went to eat them we found they had doubled up all our burgers for free!

    In bars I found we got free shots after tipping, there is some term for this I cannot remember. I hate the whole thing though, still think it should be outlawed, or at least extremely frowned upon. In some countries its viewed as an insult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rezident


    I tip like I like to be tipped.

    20% if the service is bad, 50% if it's good :)

    You reward bad service!? Why on earth would you do that?

    ZERO tip for bad service, save it up and reward the good service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    They can tip on ta be fcuked.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Rezident wrote: »
    You reward bad service!? Why on earth would you do that?
    .
    Well he said he tips like he likes to be tipped. Perhaps he is in one of these commonly "tippable jobs" and is a brutal rude bollocks but likes it when he still gets a 20% tip for his knowingly bad service - paid to him by complete fucking idiots who still feel they have to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Did ye ever hear tell of the story of the leper & the prostitute?

    He left her a tip :eek: :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭SMJSF


    I was in a new local coffee shop a few days ago that had only been open a few weeks, (run by I think Russians maybe, the name isn't English!) And I had ordered what I wanted (mocha to go E3) had a E10 note and E3 in change, handed over the E3 change, and your one raised one brow and starting tapping her hand on the tip cup!!!!!
    Now, I've never tipped, because I'm never in the appropriate places for it, but I just thought it was so rude!
    Why would I give you more money, to use the cash register??
    I gave my typical female b1tchy smile and said thank you walked out. Cheeky git!!!!!


  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can someone please explain to me why it's so important to tip taxi drivers in Ireland? Their prices are absolutely extortionate in the first place. No way am I tipping someone who rips me off to begin with.

    Their prices are set by a regulator and, when you factor in the crazy cost of insurance and cars in Ireland, they are struggling to break even


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    Spent a year in Toronto getting sub standard service , because I had to tip.
    At least here in Ireland you only tip if you think the service is worth it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    Alright it's been fun but I think we've taken this as far as it'll go. Thanks to all the social warriors who are either too good to tip or strong willed enough not to cave into the server lobby and refuse to add a few euro to the bill for the people who cooked and served your meal.

    In Ireland a server is some yoke to do with computers. People who serve you food and drink are called waiters or waitresses. And it's the jacks, not the bathroom. Feckin' Yanks. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    Do you like Phil Collins?

    :D:D:D

    Maybe he prefers Huey Lewis and the News?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,677 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    since when is tipping the barber even a thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭flas


    Their prices are set by a regulator and, when you factor in the crazy cost of insurance and cars in Ireland, they are struggling to break even

    That's why they zip by you in the city centre at the weekends with an empty car or pull in,ask where you are going and drive off again in a huff when the fare will only amount to 12euro, all because they are basically breaking even! If I was in a situation like them where I was actively able to turn down business on a regular basis I would not complain about just breaking even...

    Edit: For clarification I work in city centre and don't finish work until late at night,after last buses etc. and it is a regular occurrence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭DanC90


    I tip in places I visit or use often.
    The delivery driver of the local Chinese or Pizza place is one I always tip a euro or 2 to and I seem to always get my food quicker than my mate next door who orders from the same Chinese and doesn't tip but is waiting 30-45 minutes whereas it will be here in 15-20 for me.

    The local pub, if we order food we would usually leave at least E2 to the waiter/waitress. At least a fiver in a restaurant.

    My order in the local coffee shop is E5.70 so I always just round up to 6 for that and always get great service there.

    Everything else I don't tip, rarely use taxis and I pay E17 for a haircut which is way overpriced for what it is in the first place IMO but the barber is the only reliable one at cutting my hair the way I want so I just stick to going there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    zcorpian88 wrote: »

    My Dad is 50 odd years old worked as a night porter for most of his working life in hotels, had to deal with making guests comfortable along with all the negatives of the job, a lot of drunken scumbags that keep the hotel up half the night with general anti-social behaviour, rowdy hen-nights, rows from rich d**kheads demanding this that and the other thing, language barriers with guests, having drug users and dealers turfed out of wherever he was working.

    Is tipping expected in Ireland, in most Irish hotels, I think it should be, every little helps, the extra few bob might make up for a lot that they might have to deal with on the job that you might not know about. The amount of stories my Dad has told me over the years of idiot managers, troublesome guests that do all sorts that make the job a wreck the head as well as that he's picked up all sorts of injuries on the job, likely to be from lugging tables around for functions that were on. He's currently in a heap with pretty bad shoulder injury and can't even take the time off to mend it.

    Why not tip doctors and nurses working in A and E when drunks/druggies come in and are abusive to the staff? . Why not tip the door man at nightclub who has to deal with abuse when refusing entry?
    Most jobs have a down side to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭worded


    I've listened to talks on happiness on www.ted.com from people of different walks of life. Well worth a listed. Search for happiness
    Rich or poor the one thing that makes people happy is giving.

    I worked as a waiter years ago and loved it. Biggest tip was 80 euro!
    There a chaos of catering and the comradary that addictive.

    There is no reason why you can't reward anyone for excellent service.

    A&E people can be sent a bottle of wine etc afterwards, it doesn't have to be money. A thankyou post card etc

    If you imagine your self in the persons job, what would they like or need as a small gift?

    Blank CDs are cheap, I used to put mixs together and give them to people, the gift of music.

    Giving feels good :-)

    On the subject its time to give to the boards run Santa club charity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Their prices are set by a regulator and, when you factor in the crazy cost of insurance and cars in Ireland, they are struggling to break even

    That's entirely subjective. All businesses have overheads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    worded wrote: »
    I

    There is no reason why you can't reward anyone for excellent service.

    A&E people can be sent a bottle of wine etc afterwards, it doesn't have to be money. A thankyou post card etc

    If you imagine your self in the persons job, what would they like or need as a small gift?


    As you could with anybody who gives a service be it a nurse or waiter.
    You do a job and you get paid at the end of week/month. I dont get why people think waiters/waitresses should be tipped above anybody else providing a service that is part of their job description


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Is tipping expected in Ireland, in most Irish hotels, I think it should be

    Yeah, you and employers. Look I've done my time in hotels and my parents broke their backs working in them too over the years, so I know your heart is in the right place but you must also remember that the owners/people running these places are (more often than not) kUnts.

    It must be ten years ago now but I remember skimming through a VFI magazine during one of my very short breaks working in one particular hotel. The main piece of that issue was a report by a team of hoteillers/VFI guys who undertook a research trip to the states looking at tips. Essentially the whole magazine was outlining how fantastic tipping could be, how to encourage it in your workplace etc etc. They weren't coming at it from a good place, they reckoned it would allow lower wages/longer working hours.

    There's nothing wrong with giving a barman the occasional price of a pint for instance, but let's try to aim for a society where people are adequately paid for what they do eh? Saw a tip jar in a Dunkin' Donuts in the states, you have to laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,736 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I tip the barber and usually do if eating out, or sometimes I'll tip the delivery guy. Can't remember the last time I got a taxi but usually left them the change if they didn't take the scenic route.

    Thing now though is that with more and more stuff being paid for by debit/credit cards I rarely have cash on me most of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,069 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    worded wrote: »
    I've listened to talks on happiness on www.ted.com from people of different walks of life. Well worth a listed. Search for happiness
    Rich or poor the one thing that makes people happy is giving.

    I worked as a waiter years ago and loved it. Biggest tip was 80 euro!
    There a chaos of catering and the comradary that addictive.

    There is no reason why you can't reward anyone for excellent service.

    A&E people can be sent a bottle of wine etc afterwards, it doesn't have to be money. A thankyou post card etc

    If you imagine your self in the persons job, what would they like or need as a small gift?

    Blank CDs are cheap, I used to put mixs together and give them to people, the gift of music.

    Giving feels good :-)

    On the subject its time to give to the boards run Santa club charity

    Agreed, some of the excuses here are hilarious, also the ones pretending they just don't understand why they should tip someone that's getting a wage!!

    If you don't tip in a restaurant after a really good time, you're tight. But it's ok, you're scabby, that's the way you are!


  • Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    don't eat yellow snow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭DivingDuck


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    If you don't tip in a restaurant after a really good time, you're tight. But it's ok, you're scabby, that's the way you are!

    As someone who has always tipped because of social convention (it's scabby not to) and/or fear of reprisal if I disregard that convention (something in your food next time you visit), I still take issue with the idea. The post you quoted suggested tipping anyone you fancied in whatever way you please, which I can completely understand. But why did you reduce it to waitstaff only?

    What is your argument to support the idea that waitstaff deserve a wage top-up that people in other jobs don't? Is waiting tables harder than cleaning, or folding clothes in a shop all day, or standing in a petrol station all night, or scanning items in a supermarket? Why are these jobs, some of which are just as physically taxing, and nearly all of which require as much customer interaction, not deserving of extra money from customers where people who bring them food are?


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  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How many times do the customer have to pay for the service?
    once, as in they pay the bill,
    or twice as they pay the bill and the staff!

    IMHO it should be once and that staff be paid a decent wage so that they aren't dependent on tips to earn a living wage.


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