What happened to Madeleine McCann?

Dep! · 13-12-2015 12:59AM #1

I came across a series of great documentaries about her on Youtube this week and it is hard to ignore some of the evidence it puts forward.

They can be found in a series of 4 different episodes on there but someone has also joined them all up for one link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PltuL0ICkzs

At 4 hours its not something you'll watch in one sitting but definitely something to take an hour in a day till completion. It exposes all the false leads and red herrings fed to the media by Gerry and Kate's PR man, it questions where all the money from the fund went and it puts forward a strong case for the cadaver dogs on the scene who smelt a corpse in 5 different instances in the partment where Madeline went missing.

So what happened to Madeleine McCann?

I believe she fell in the apartment or some other accident happened and it was covered up. There are 60 solid reasons why she wasnt abducted here http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

The_fever · 13-12-2015 01:03AM

Damn you, that's me glued for an hour.

kettlehead · 13-12-2015 01:03AM

We will never know for sure what happened. She's brown bread anyway.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:05AM

The_fever wrote: »

Damn you, that's me glued for an hour.

Its one of the best Ive seen on the subject, probably not one to watch in one sitting but its broken up into 4 logical chapters.

Tarzana2 · 13-12-2015 01:05AM

I don't know what happened to her so can't pick a poll option. I can't even pick the 'something else' option because I don't know if it was something else.

StewartGriffin · 13-12-2015 01:09AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I don't know what happened to her so can't pick a poll option. I can't even pick the 'something else' option because I don't know if it was something else.

Me too. I could pretend I know like everyone else, but that would just playing a game and games aren't really appropriate in this case.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:12AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I don't know what happened to her so can't pick a poll option. I can't even pick the 'something else' option because I don't know if it was something else.

StewartGriffin wrote: »

Me too. I could pretend I know like everyone else, but that would just playing a game and games aren't really appropriate in this case.

Does anyone know how I edit a poll after posting it? I'll add an "I dont know" option.

sashafierce · 13-12-2015 01:12AM

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NachoBusiness · 13-12-2015 01:13AM

I have no idea but one think I know for sure is that her parents haven't a clue what happened her either.

Nobody is that good at lying and for that long. Not a chance.

Tarzana2 · 13-12-2015 01:14AM

Dep! wrote: »

Does anyone know how I edit a poll after posting it? I'll add an "I dont know" option.

I think if you go into 'Edit' then 'Go Advanced', you can edit the poll there.

Wibbs · 13-12-2015 01:17AM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Nobody is that good at lying and for that long. Not a chance.

Whatever about the truth in this tragic case, I would disagree with you there NB. Once a lie becomes established and the longer it becomes established as the truth in our memories, the more real it becomes. This is pretty well researched. Memory, especially such emotive memory becomes fact very easily. Doubly so if said memory is a defence against an even more emotive and self damaging truth.

Fluffy Cat 88 · 13-12-2015 01:19AM

There is a lot more to this - I'm convinced.

The fact Kate wouldn't answer any questions in the investigation.

The fact the cadaver dogs smelt death.

The fact the toy Cuddle Cat was washed by Kate.

And them suing Goncalo Aramal - his book "The Truth of the Lie".

13-12-2015 01:20AM

I can't imagine what it's like to not know where your little girl is or what happened to her, and to have people think you were involved in her disappearance or even killed her yourself? That must be a living hell. That poor little girl, and her poor family.

The McCanns made bad childcare decisions for which they've paid the highest price possible and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives. That must be torture.

If the evidence is so strong for her parents involvement, then they can still be charged. The fact they haven't been should tell you everything you need to know.

Junkyard Tom · 13-12-2015 01:20AM

Aliens.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:20AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I think if you go into 'Edit' then 'Go Advanced', you can edit the poll there.

I cant seem to see it. Could a Mod add an "I dont know" option for me? Thanks.

KERSPLAT! · 13-12-2015 01:23AM

Dep! wrote: »

Does anyone know how I edit a poll after posting it? I'll add an "I dont know" option.

Well it's doubtful aboyone here 'knows' so 'I don't know' should be the only option

topmanamillion · 13-12-2015 01:27AM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I have no idea but one think I know for sure is that her parents haven't a clue what happened her either.

Nobody is that good at lying and for that long. Not a chance.

100% this. It is.nt plausible at all.
Even Joe o reilly who, after killing his wife, went on the late late to appeal for information into her murder unravelled very quickly.
Anyone that believes they did it needs to think about it and ask themselves a few questions.
How did they do it?
Why did they do?
Why would they cover it up?
Why pick her?

NachoBusiness · 13-12-2015 01:27AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Whatever about the truth in this tragic case, I would disagree with you there NB. Once a lie becomes established and the longer it becomes established as the truth in our memories, the more real it becomes. This is pretty well researched. Memory, especially such emotive memory becomes fact very easily. Doubly so if said memory is a defence against an even more emotive and self damaging truth.

That may be the case with small details like family arguments etc. I have witnessed that myself and how people can lie to themselves and eventually believe it. But nobody is going to start lying about the death of their child, say they no nothing about it when they do and then end up believing that lie to be the truth some day. No way. Unless maybe the insane. If the McCanns knew something about the death of Madeleine, then the concealing of that fact would forever be forefront in their mind every single time they are interviewed and they would without question be conscious of that and like I say, nobody is that good at concealing something that huge for so long.

They have also never shied away from the media. On the contrary, they have went out of their way to speak to them from the very beginning, at every chance they could get. This is also not something, imo, that people would do if they were lying. The logical thing to do in that case would just be to say 'We've been through too much please leave us alone now'. Their actions scream they haven't a notion what happened to their daughter.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:32AM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Well it's doubtful aboyone here 'knows' so 'I don't know' should be the only option

I only asked as a few people seemed to want it. Thanks anyway.

Turtyturd · 13-12-2015 01:33AM

No matter what happened the blame lies with the parents, but they're doctors so let's ignore that.

Richard Hillman · 13-12-2015 01:34AM

She fell down a well.

Roger Hassenforder · 13-12-2015 01:34AM

Fluffy Cat 88 wrote: »

The fact the toy Cuddle Cat was washed by Kate.

For me, this is hugely significant.
When my kids are away and i miss them, a sniff of a bear is very comforting.

Was there ever a reason offered why she did it?

the_pen_turner · 13-12-2015 01:35AM

if someone was going to abduct a child you would presume that they would seek out a child on their own.
how did they know that all the kids were asleep, how did they get in and out without waking the children.
how did they hide her as she was probably frightened and trying to escape

my thoughts on this are the same as when it first happened.
I think that the parents drugged the children to make them sleep but something went wrong and she died.
they then covered it up

as for keeping up lies for years .
ask joseph fritzle or his family. he did all kinds of evil to his daughter and everybody bought into his lies

13-12-2015 01:35AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

She fell down a well.

Give over.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:46AM

Candie wrote: »

If the evidence is so strong for her parents involvement, then they can still be charged. The fact they haven't been should tell you everything you need to know.

Oh there's plenty of evidence and strange behaviour by the parents.

The cadaver dogs, who were previously right 200 times out of 201 smelling a corpse, sensing a dead body 5 times in the aparment.
Kate washing her fluffy toy. Why do that?
Gerry's body language in interviews
The lack of similar stories and contradictions by the Tapas 9
The cadaver dogs smelling a corpse on Kate's clothes, Yes she was a doctor but never around corpses.
The McCanns’ immediate and insistent cry of ‘abduction’ - excluding all other possibilities. Why did they jump straight to that?
The apartment's shutters could only be opened from the inside - and only Kate McCann’s fingerprints were on the window
Jane Tanner’s ever-changing stories of what the alleged abductor looked like - and other problems with Jane Tanner’s accounts
The hiring of very dubious firms of so-called ‘private investigators’
The McCanns’ rush, right from the outset, to hire a team of top lawyers, including the appointment of Britain’s top extradition lawyer
Failing to co-operate fully with the Portuguese police, despite repeatedly promising to do so
Comparing losing Madeleine to being told you’re overdrawn. On one occasion, a TV interviewer asked Dr Gerry McCann what he felt like on learning that Madeleine had ‘gone missing’. He answered: “It was like going to the bank and finding yourself over your student overdraft”.
The rapid setting up of the private company ‘trust fund’ - but the refusal to say how much has been received and what it’s been spent on
Google the McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell. He is a very powerful man in British government. Why hire him?

These and 46 other reasons can be found here http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

13-12-2015 01:48AM

None of those things amount to evidence.

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:49AM

Candie wrote: »

None of those things amount to evidence.

None of it is enough to put them in prison no.

But thats where they should be.

KERSPLAT! · 13-12-2015 01:49AM

Dep! wrote: »

Oh there's plenty of evidence and strange behaviour by the parents.

The cadaver dogs, who were previously right 200 times out of 201 smelling a corpse, sensing a dead body 5 times in the aparment.

Kate washing her fluffy toy. Why do that?

Gerry's body language in interviews

The lack of similar stories and contradictions by the Tapas 9

The cadaver dogs smelling a corpse on Kate's clothes, Yes she was a doctor but never around corpses.

The McCanns’ immediate and insistent cry of ‘abduction’ - excluding all other possibilities. Why did they jump straight to that?

The apartment's shutters could only be opened from the inside - and only Kate McCann’s fingerprints were on the window

Jane Tanner’s ever-changing stories of what the alleged abductor looked like - and other problems with Jane Tanner’s accounts

The hiring of very dubious firms of so-called ‘private investigators’

The McCanns’ rush, right from the outset, to hire a team of top lawyers, including the appointment of Britain’s top extradition lawyer

Failing to co-operate fully with the Portuguese police, despite repeatedly promising to do so

Comparing losing Madeleine to being told you’re overdrawn. On one occasion, a TV interviewer asked Dr Gerry McCann what he felt like on learning that Madeleine had ‘gone missing’. He answered: “It was like going to the bank and finding yourself over your student overdraft”.

The rapid setting up of the private company ‘trust fund’ - but the refusal to say how much has been received and what it’s been spent on

Google the McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell. He is a very powerful man in British government. Why hire him?

These and 46 other reasons can be found here http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

'Evidence' :rolleyes:

Dep! · 13-12-2015 01:51AM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

'Evidence' :rolleyes:

I did say evidence and strange behaviour by the parents.

13-12-2015 01:52AM

None of it is evidence of any kind of guilt. None.

deco nate · 13-12-2015 01:53AM

Candie wrote: »

None of those things amount to evidence.

When asked on the late late show what happened(or words to that effect) the reply from them was... Buy the book, then both of them smiled.

They can Fook off.
Imo they covered up her death.

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