Female Judge assaulted at family law court - Please see post #96.

NachoBusiness · 11-12-2015 05:38PM #1

Mayhem down in Dolphin House apparently..

Female judge assaulted at family law courts in Dublin

A Female District Court judge has been assaulted during a court sitting in Dublin's Temple Bar.

The incident happened during a case before the family law courts at around lunchtime.

The judge was taken to hospital as a result of the incident but has since been discharged, and her injuries are not believed to be serious.

The Courts Service says security systems were put in place, and gardaí were also present in the court.

One person has been arrested and brought to Pearse Street garda station.

How the hell would something like that occur. Is there security for judges in that court?

omahaid · 11-12-2015 05:40PM

Oho, they'll be no suspended sentence for that!

Stheno · 11-12-2015 05:40PM

She's been released and is not seriously hurt thankfully.

Family court can be a contentious place.

NachoBusiness · 11-12-2015 05:42PM

Independent reporting that she may have been kicked in the head.

It is understood that the male attacker was giving evidence during a case when he attacked the judge, possibly kicking her in the head before he was stopped.

Course they do use the word "possibly" as the age old get out clause if wrong.

seamus · 11-12-2015 05:43PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

How the hell would something like that occur. Is there security for judges in that court?

You have to remember that no-one in that court is a prisoner or on trial for any offences. So anyone giving testimony can't be restrained or cuffed.

Not beyond the realms of possibility that someone is quick enough to get a smack in at the judge before the Gardai can get hold of them.

Ally Dick · 11-12-2015 05:43PM

Give the perpetrator 5 years for that. That's what I'd like to see, but it's the usual old excuses of no prison spaces available, person had a hard upbringing, suspended sentence, nice little earner for barristers, judges not living in the real world etc etc

donvito99 · 11-12-2015 05:45PM

Whenever I hear of any story involving an assault with a kick to the head I squirm. Any old blow to a myriad of places there can mean death, it sadly happens too often to people involved in scraps on nights out.

Ally Dick · 11-12-2015 05:46PM

Is Temple Bar becoming the most dangerous place in Dublin ? Seems to be nothing but assaults of late

11-12-2015 05:48PM

I mean.. whatever about assault in general and lenient sentences.. is a judge going to be lenient if they're the person being assaulted? I really doubt that'd be the case.

Steppenwolfe · 11-12-2015 05:48PM

He must be some class of scumbag to do that in a family court.

jamesbere · 11-12-2015 05:48PM

I'd say the book will be thrown at the person, assaulting judge will not go down well in their little circle.

Ally Dick · 11-12-2015 05:49PM

Steppenwolfe wrote: »

He must be some class of scumbag to do that in a family court.

They were probably taking the children off him, and rightly so !

One eyed Jack · 11-12-2015 05:53PM

The guy is in family court... and he assaults the judge?

What sort of a... is he at all?

snubbleste · 11-12-2015 05:56PM

I thought the family courts were held in camera and nothing could be reported. nothing!

cichlid child · 11-12-2015 05:56PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Give the perpetrator 5 years for that. That's what I'd like to see, but it's the usual old excuses of no prison spaces available, person had a hard upbringing, suspended sentence, nice little earner for barristers, judges not living in the real world etc etc

I don't think a judge will take to kindly to someone kicking another judge in the head,

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2015 05:59PM

I presume a slap on the wrist is all they will get just like any other citizen who is the victim of assault in the city

biko · 11-12-2015 06:15PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The guy is in family court... and he assaults the judge?
What sort of a... is he at all?

We'll see him on a ledge somewhere in a batman suit before long.
"Dey took ma keeds!!"

11-12-2015 06:19PM

snubbleste wrote: »

I thought the family courts were held in camera and nothing could be reported. nothing!

No, reporting now allowed as long as parties not identified...

http://www.thejournal.ie/new-in-camera-law-courts-family-child-ireland-1261767-Jan2014/

Pretty shocking stuff though. Assaulting a Judge is fairly unheard of. Family Court can be highly charged, very often there are outbursts and clients have to be told to shut up by their Solicitors, but this goes way way beyond that.

Hitchens · 11-12-2015 06:20PM

it just gets worse and worse

mzungu · 11-12-2015 06:30PM

cichlid child wrote: »

I don't think a judge will take to kindly to someone kicking another judge in the head,

Thats the problem right there, judges should not be soft on anybody who kicks somebody in the head, no matter who they are. There was a case a few months back where some fella did a ten step run before kicking another chap in the head, and he ended up with a wrap on the knuckles. That kind of thing needs to be met with a stiff sentence.

omahaid · 11-12-2015 06:34PM

mzungu wrote: »

Thats the problem right there, judges should not be soft on anybody who kicks somebody in the head, no matter who they are. There was a case a few months back where some fella did a ten step run before kicking another chap in the head, and he ended up with was a wrap on the knuckles. That kind of thing needs to be met with a stiff sentence.

If these lads got a suspended sentence then...

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/dublin-men-who-stomped-on-head-of-victim-both-get-suspended-jail-sentence-1.2024449

Spanish Eyes · 11-12-2015 06:35PM

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

Hitchens · 11-12-2015 06:38PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

so the best response is to kick someone in the head? (if, of course, it happened like that)

Stheno · 11-12-2015 06:38PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

How does that justify kicking a judge in the head?

Junkyard Tom · 11-12-2015 06:40PM

Hitchens wrote: »

it just gets worse and worse

No it doesn't.

Assaults causing harm were down by 6.2 per cent or almost 200 incidents, over the same period. The figures show a sharp drop in sexual offences (down 5.3 per cent), including a fall by almost a fifth in rapes (down by 101 incidents).

irishtimes.com

Green Peter · 11-12-2015 06:42PM

Bet he was out on bail when he did it!

imitation · 11-12-2015 06:42PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

Sure there is, but there is also the possibilty he is like the fella who stabbed his ex wife in front of his own kids, I guess this one might take a while to find out if the courtcase has to be concluded.

Tasden · 11-12-2015 06:42PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

I adore my kid. I've been kicked down at every opportunity when it comes to legal issues with my ex. Yes, the shoe is on the other foot in that i am lucky enough to be the sole carer and see my kid all the time, but the frustration and heartbreak is felt the same. And in all my times of frustration and disappointment for my child I've never resorted to violence.

esforum · 11-12-2015 06:43PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

and that folks, your bleeding heart let em off right there

Roger Hassenforder · 11-12-2015 06:43PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would there be any possiblity that the man was kicked down himself at every opportunity.

He may have tried to get access/custody but was stymied by the ex with barring orders to boost the case.

I look on the man as being heartbroken. He probably adores his kids but is denied all that he wants to do for them.

There are two sides to ever story. Sad end to this, he will suffer now.

It was a cry for help; he's the victim!

omahaid · 11-12-2015 06:45PM

I'd be shocked if he sees any jail time considering these lads got a suspended sentence

Two Dublin men who “stomped” on the head of their victim while he was lying on the ground, leaving him with a serious head injury, have avoided a jail term.

The victim, Philip O’Hanlon, (27), was later treated for a clot in his brain. He spent a total of 20 days being treated in three different hospitals, was out of work for a year and is still on anti-seizure medication.

“The victim’s head was on the kerb and four people were stamping on his head,” this person told gardaí. The witness said they could see Mr O’Hanlon’s eyes rolling in his head and thought he was going to die.

Female Judge assaulted at family law court - Please see post #96.

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