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How to join the Register of Solemnisers?

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  • #32
    prettygurrly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭prettygurrly


    I do like the idea of getting toastmasters involved though...there's so many of us, spread across the country, it makes perfect sense - and we're not too shabby on the public speaking front!


  • #33
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    prettygurrly wrote: »
    I do like the idea of getting toastmasters involved though...there's so many of us, spread across the country, it makes perfect sense - and we're not too shabby on the public speaking front!

    Yeah. It seems like a bit of a no brainer and I've floated the idea once or twice and found broad agreement, but

    a) there'd need to be approval from headquarters in the US
    b) there'd probably need to be some sort of new structure put in place. Probably a solemnisers specific club, but then would that need to be around for five years or would the toastmasters org in Ireland qualify?

    If toastmasters already qualifies for the tax status, I think it'd be fairly straightforward.

    i.e. found the solemnisers club with a pre-requisite of CC and CL to join, maybe develop a special manual (or adapt one of the existing ones) then get people through the special manual, apprentice them somehow and off they go.

    If toastmasters doesn't qualify for the tax status, then you'd be talking about trying to found and maintain a solemnisers club, with a minimum of fifty members and keeping it going for five years to qualify for nominating body status.

    It's something I hope to pursue a bit next year, when the wedding is over and my term as club president is up, but right now, I haven't time.


  • #34
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    So I looked up the list of registered charities in Ireland and the toastmasters don't appear to be on it, so then I decided to see if I could see any other candidate organisations:

    I definitely think the Dublin Naturalists' Field Club would make fantastic wedding solemnisers. Also the Dublin Well Womans Association and maybe the Farmers Apprenticeship Board.

    Also the Dublin camera club. You could get a family member to the ceremony and your photographer could quickly sign off on the legal bit.

    There are dozens of great candidate organisations, we should start a campaign to get them to sign up.


  • #35
    prettygurrly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭prettygurrly


    TM clubs individually don't make a profit though so could maybe just the solemnisers club be a registered charity? We have the problem of 5 yes history though in that case. Long term plan it sounds good...

    (I've written this with the understanding that it has to be a registered charity...correct me if I'm wrong)


  • #36
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    prettygurrly wrote: »
    TM clubs individually don't make a profit though so could maybe just the solemnisers club be a registered charity? We have the problem of 5 yes history though in that case. Long term plan it sounds good...

    (I've written this with the understanding that it has to be a registered charity...correct me if I'm wrong)

    Toastmasters itself is a non-profit so may be registered as such some other way and qualify on those grounds. 5 year and fifty members requirements are easily met in that case.

    If that's not the case doesn't then yes, the solemnisers club would need to be registered as a charity and need to meet the five year rule and 50 members requirement on its own terms, which is where things get awkward. Whatever about a two year lead time or thereabouts, a 5 year lead time would be pretty difficult to maintain.


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  • #37
    mailforkev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Based on the amount of time and effort that it took to get the Humanists on the approved list I'd say it would be fairly difficult.

    There is an element in Irish society that views non-religion as completely destructive so they don't make it easy.

    Before we got married (luckily the Humanists got full accreditation before our ceremony, they hadn't at the time) I obtained the full spreadsheet of every single approved wedding celebrant in the country and it was entertaining reading. Any crackpot religion or "spiritualist" was on it no problem but nobody secular. A fortune teller would find it easier than someone non-religious.


  • #38
    Gatica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Gatica


    keeponhurling wrote: »
    Seems like a paradox to me.
    So do they believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster or not ?

    I don't think that should be prerequisite for them since it's not a prerequisite for this country's main religion. Many catholics are atheist, indeed some priests are aware of their parishioners atheism, doesn't seem to bother the a jot...


  • #39
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    How did you get on with this in the end?

    Interested myself..


  • #40
    stickybookmark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭stickybookmark


    Has anyone ever read through the list of irish solemisers? It's an interesting read!
    One church I liked the sound of called ''The Tower of Power'' would love to have been married by them :-)
    I think becoming a secular solemiser like humanist would be a licence to print money (as long as you don't mind working weekends and travelling) there are Always people on here looking for humanist solemisers.


  • #41
    Milly33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Yes would love to hear.. I got my documents from the universal church and it said you had to contact your local office to see if you could be approved. haven't don't anything with it at the moment as tis just been madness but might be something intersting


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  • #42
    stickybookmark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭stickybookmark


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Yes would love to hear.. I got my documents from the universal church and it said you had to contact your local office to see if you could be approved. haven't don't anything with it at the moment as tis just been madness but might be something intersting

    You should definitely go for it! Really nice job being part of people's happy day and guaranteed loads of work as non-religious weddings continue to become more popular


  • #43
    fannymagee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    PhoenixParker wrote: »
    I'm actually really interested in this. The situation with regard to registrars/solemnisers in this country is a bit of a bugbear of mine. There are thousands of individuals on the registrar including random priests who work in Africa who have been added so they can marry relatives. However if you exclude the solemnisers associated with major religions you're left with 16 - 20 humanists & spiritualists and the registrars who only work Monday - Friday.

    The humanists are great, but there are so few of them and while more are in training, I don't really feel they'll ever be able to meet demand. We need a real alternative. I have a few ideas in my head, toastmasters being one and commissioners for oaths being another, but a group like the pastafarians could really break the shortage and quickly.

    If I were you, I'd forget about the worship services for a little bit. Write a nice letter to the register general along the lines of

    Then base your plan of action on meeting exactly the stipulations he lays down.

    And Interfaith Solemnisers!! We have similar numbers to Humanists, but aren't as well known. Personally I would love to oversee a traditional Pastafarian wedding- I can imagine some very interesting bridal headwear..! ;-)


  • #44
    Nash Bridges
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Nash Bridges


    Would also be interested to hear how you got on?

    Also, who is going to do all the same-sex weddings? Is it only civil registrars?


  • #45
    fannymagee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    Nash Bridges wrote: »
    Would also be interested to hear how you got on?

    Also, who is going to do all the same-sex weddings? Is it only civil registrars?

    No, any registered solemniser can officiate same-sex weddings. I have 3 booked for 2016, and one for 2017 already. Now I'm getting ready for the post-Christmas & New Year engagement rush haha. Bring 'em ON!!!! :-)


  • #46
    JustAThought
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    fannymagee wrote: »
    And Interfaith Solemnisers!! We have similar numbers to Humanists, but aren't as well known. Personally I would love to oversee a traditional Pastafarian wedding- I can imagine some very interesting bridal headwear..! ;-)


    Interesting - is there a website for the organisation?!


  • #47
    fannymagee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    JustAThought wrote: »
    Interesting - is there a website for the organisation?!

    Yes, www.interfaithministers.ie :)


  • #48
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,701 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP, in case it helps, the CoFSM have recently be approved to solemnise weddings in New Zealand: http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/weddings/75107725/Church-of-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster-approved-to-perform-marriages


  • #49
    fannymagee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭fannymagee


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    OP, in case it helps, the CoFSM have recently be approved to solemnise weddings in New Zealand: http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/weddings/75107725/Church-of-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster-approved-to-perform-marriages

    R'amen to that! :)


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