Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Note Post 7373

06-12-2015 07:58PM

Not sure why people think Higuain would solve any of United's problems in the current set up. If Rooney was given the chances he has this season he'd be scoring them. It's a player to get the ball to the strikers and wingers in a position to score that's needed.

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 07:59PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I was reading those tweets you posted, and thinking yeah, yeah as in that is believable, then a huh for the last one...Rooney not injured????

LVG basically said he's undroppable so it's not unbelievable he claimed an ankle injury to cover the fact he's dropped.

The one thing we've to look forward to now is the excuses that Rooney has to play himself back into form after being out of the team.

Korat · 06-12-2015 07:59PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

1. No its not, thats a crazy statment.

2. No he won't. Not a chance, even without a title.

Moyes was an exception. LVG is on target, we are in the title race, we beat Wolfsburg we top our UCL group. Even if both of those don't pan out the Glazers will let him see out his contact and I would like to see that happen.

Good for you, you're sticking by your guns and you're resolute in your beliefs.

You could be a candidate for election in some countries for that alone.

I understood the LVG appointment to be something different. I assumed he would steady the ship and create a team the fans could get behind enthusiastically again while mentoring Ryan Giggs as his successor.

Neither of those seem likely at this point and whatever the Glazer grand plans
it's football/financial reality which will dictate the manger's job security.

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 08:02PM

Liam O wrote: »

Not sure why people think Higuain would solve any of United's problems in the current set up. If Rooney was given the chances he has this season he'd be scoring them. It's a player to get the ball to the strikers and wingers in a position to score that's needed.

If Rooney actually spent some time getting into the opposition box he might score a few,standing deep then playing his default pass out wide then staying still won't get him on the end of crosses or balls into the box.He's the only #10 I've seen that seems to think he's barred from running into the box.

The_Kew_Tour · 06-12-2015 08:03PM

Liam O wrote: »

Not sure why people think Higuain would solve any of United's problems in the current set up. If Rooney was given the chances he has this season he'd be scoring them. It's a player to get the ball to the strikers and wingers in a position to score that's needed.

Rooney hasn't been given chances?

Maximus Alexander · 06-12-2015 08:08PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Dunno, I'd say we're still one more win away from ♫ We're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league..... ♫

We're literally always one win away from that.

RobertKK · 06-12-2015 08:08PM

Sure Kyle Walker had to show Rooney what he should have done with the ball.

Korat · 06-12-2015 08:09PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Stupid, stupid utter stupid statement,

He's the best advertising salesmen in the World probably, but his transfer dealings are appalling.

His first summer set my opinion a bit so maybe I'm being biased in assessing his transactions since. What are his better transfer deals that maybe I'm not giving due credit to?

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 08:09PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Rooney hasn't been given chances?

But can Higuain spray a 40 yard diagonal pass to the wing then be too knackered to make a burst into the box to give the winger a target?

homerjay2005 · 06-12-2015 08:11PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The one thing LVG deserves a A+ for is how much better we look when defending now. Last year we were a shambles only for DDG. We got bit lucky at times, but overall look a very solid unit and I'm confident when opposition have ball that we won't give away anything silly.

Playing two holding midfielders in front of a back 4 isn't exactly something a manager of a top team shoudnt be praised much for.

In fact, LVG is getting far too Much credit for it. We also have the best keeper and center half in the league which goes a long way.

This negative set up has cost us going forward.

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 08:12PM

What would LVG do if we are in this league position with 2 or 3 games to go and all to play for?

Maximus Alexander · 06-12-2015 08:13PM

zerks wrote: »

What would LVG do if we are in this league position with 2 or 3 games to go and all to play for?

Same thing LVG does every week?

Lithium93_ · 06-12-2015 08:13PM

Korat wrote: »

He's the best advertising salesmen in the World probably, but his transfer dealings are appalling.

His first summer set my opinion a bit so maybe I'm being biased in assessing his transactions since. What are his better transfer deals that maybe I'm not giving due credit to?

In fairness to him, his first summer he was thrown in at the deep end, he stumbled but he has since found his feet like anyone starting a new job for the first time.

Would say Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Memphis, Darmian are some of the better deals Woodward has pulled off.. Would somewhat credit him for DDG staying put as well..

But that's just my 2 cents.

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 08:17PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Same thing LVG does every week?

Win the possession?

Professey Chin · 06-12-2015 08:17PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Same thing LVG does every week?

Try to take over the world?

Cantona's Collars · 06-12-2015 08:19PM

Lol!!

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/social/liverpool-fans-rage-against-sky-commentator-man-united-fan-martin-tyler-tweets/

The Moldy Gowl · 06-12-2015 08:19PM

Korat wrote: »

He's the best advertising salesmen in the World probably, but his transfer dealings are appalling.

His first summer set my opinion a bit so maybe I'm being biased in assessing his transactions since. What are his better transfer deals that maybe I'm not giving due credit to?

So you already know he isn't a disaster if you say he is the best at advertising.

He isn't the only one involved in transfers by the way.

homerjay2005 · 06-12-2015 08:30PM

Regardless of who is the blame for the current lack of quality in our team, I don't think Any realistic fan can say that the money spent in recent years, has been anywhere close to standard.

Our current squad, apart from perhaps 2004-2006 is the worst we've had since 1988, the attacking 4 that started yesterday is one of the worst I've seen in a game where we didn't have an injury crisis and we potentially were playing for top spot at kick off.

The fact that Fellaini and Lingard are starting big games for United at the moment is a very poor reflection of a club who has spent £320m in two years.

It's going to take another ,£200m to make up for The mess that's been created, do people really trust our club right now to get it right?

It appears now our ambitions are bigger off the pitch as opposed to on it. Once we inevitably go out of the CL and perhaps drop to 5th or 6th, maybe the penny will drop on those behind the scenes.

RobbingBandit · 06-12-2015 08:31PM

Professey Chin wrote: »

Try to take over the world?

Pity we sold Pinky to PSG. Oh wait no it isn't.

If Leicester are still top by January 31st I'll eat my hat.

Said hat being made of chocolate...

beno619 · 06-12-2015 08:34PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

It has been effective so far in some areas, see highest avg possesion and clean sheets.

That's great but we are 4th in the league and have to win on Wednesday to stay in the CL.

But who cares, we have the most possession.

Korat · 06-12-2015 08:34PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Would say Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Memphis, Darmian are some of the better deals Woodward has pulled off.. Would somewhat credit him for DDG staying put as well..

But that's just my 2 cents.

DDG staying was a masterstroke if he's still with us this time next year, but if he leaves for a minimum fee agreed in his recent contract next summer it could be seen as at best a delaying action or at worst a petulant act of sabotage involving a fax machine. The jury is out on that for now.

Are any of the others personnel that Tottenham couldn't have signed, including the manager?

He set the standard of signings himself with his early promises. He's been much quieter lately but we're not goldfish. A new face to front transfers might take the pressure off him and the club.

homerjay2005 · 06-12-2015 08:40PM

Do people here expect us to be still in the champions league this time next week?

I can't see us winning in Germany, so we are relying on CSKA to be honest. As things stand, I think it's safe to say Wolfsburg and PSV are favourites to go through.

StringerBell · 06-12-2015 08:46PM

Question for you lovely ladies and gents, does Rockman post here anymore?

StringerBell · 06-12-2015 08:47PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Do people here expect us to be still in the champions league this time next week?

I can't see us winning in Germany, so we are relying on CSKA to be honest. As things stand, I think it's safe to say Wolfsburg and PSV are favourites to go through.

Why don't you think we can win there?

Your Airbag · 06-12-2015 08:47PM

Korat wrote: »

Good for you, you're sticking by your guns and you're resolute in your beliefs.

You could be a candidate for election in some countries for that alone.

I understood the LVG appointment to be something different. I assumed he would steady the ship and create a team the fans could get behind enthusiastically again while mentoring Ryan Giggs as his successor.

Neither of those seem likely at this point and whatever the Glazer grand plans
it's football/financial reality which will dictate the manger's job security.

He has steadied the ship. 7th to 4th, back into the UCL. 4th to mounting a title challenge all done. Who says he isn't mentoring Giggs? Bizzare statement? He hired him as his assistan.

Some fans, me, are behind the team. All of what you said he hasn't done he has.

Korat wrote: »

He's the best advertising salesmen in the World probably, but his transfer dealings are appalling.

His first summer set my opinion a bit so maybe I'm being biased in assessing his transactions since. What are his better transfer deals that maybe I'm not giving due credit to?

You just ignored the list of know qaulity players I mentioned? He is not anything close to appaling at transfers. You don't know what your talking about frankly.

Korat · 06-12-2015 08:49PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Do people here expect us to be still in the champions league this time next week?

Yes

We're Man Utd, wearing the shirt gives an extra 5% performance in attack.

The gameplan was much improved yesterday. I think LVG knows his job is on the line with this game. Utd will attack and win.

LeeJM · 06-12-2015 08:52PM

Honestly get the feeling some people in here would be happy enough to see us get knocked out of the CL just to be able to have a go at LVG

StringerBell · 06-12-2015 08:54PM

LeeJM wrote: »

Honestly get the feeling some people in here would be happy enough to see us get knocked out of the CL just to be able to have a go at LVG

Oh there is no doubt about that.

Of course, if we do fail to get out of this group he will certainly face some valid criticism also as he has to be accountable for the failure also.

Polo_Mint · 06-12-2015 08:56PM

We will beat Wolfburg

The_Kew_Tour · 06-12-2015 08:57PM

Personally, I don't think we will win on Tuesday, but I most certainly hope I'm wrong.

I just don't think we are good enough, but I been wrong fair few times this year and hope it continues.

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