Flightradar24 Thread Part II

Chris_5339762 · 05-12-2015 01:36PM

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Winglet equipped 738, wet crosswind take off limit is 25 knots. Doesn't look like dropping any time soon so good call by their ops in my honest opinion :cool:

Winglets are handy for fuel efficiency but have a surprising effect on crosswind performance.

Mebuntu · 05-12-2015 01:57PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

FR6875
FR7124
FR7256
FR22
FR7044
FR152
FR534
FR332
FR1964

Plus several more are listed as taken off from 6-10am according to FR24. Some may be errors.

Out of curiosity I decided to check the accuracy of FR24 against Ryanair's website and they're all errors. The first six listed were all cancelled and the other three are rescheduled for just about now but we'll see if they actually go.

Cienciano · 05-12-2015 01:57PM

Mebuntu wrote: »

I was looking at the DAA flight info which must be inaccurate, so, yet they claim to get their info from the airlines. Nothing FR has been listed all morning as having departed including all flights to/from UK which have been listed cancelled or are just blank. Meanwhile mainline EI/BA and others are listed as departed.

DAA is odd, ryanair at 13:50 to liverpool is down as cancelled, but the 13:50 ryanair to manchester is going ahead.

smurfjed · 05-12-2015 01:58PM

surprising effect on crosswind performance

Would you please expand on this, what is the effect?

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 02:02PM

Wind forecast to Gust up to 48knots for the next few hours (An increase) so I doubt the situation will.improve.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 02:06PM

Looking at Flightradar, there are 0 Ryanair flights going To or From Dublin ATM.

Nibs05 · 05-12-2015 02:09PM

How can the blue air 738 can take off and Ryanair can't

Chris_5339762 · 05-12-2015 02:13PM

smurfjed wrote: »

Would you please expand on this, what is the effect?

I don't know the specifics, but winglets (the vertical bits on the wingtips) prevent turbulence and vortices being formed at the wingtips and reduce drag a little, improving fuel efficiency.

Trouble is, now you have a vertical bit at the end of the wing and during crosswinds, the winds tend to push the aircraft around more than the straight edge of the wing. Hence, lower limits for crosswinds on takeoff and landing.

All Ryanair planes have them, but most/all of Aer Lingus' ones are much smaller (different manufacturer, obviously). Hence the unfortunate coincidence today that Aer Lingus planes can take off (higher crosswind limits) and the Ryanairs can't (lower crosswind limits).

Hope that helps!

smurfjed · 05-12-2015 02:21PM

Thanks for that, but this is taken from Boeing 737.org

Finally, the dry “maximum demonstrated” crosswind limit is slightly reduced with winglets to 34kts. According to APB this is because “the FAA will only let us document the max winds experienced during flight test... so if we had been able to find more crosswind, then the 33kts might have been more. There appears to be no weather cocking effect due to winglets.”

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 02:21PM

EI433 going around, wind out of limits.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 02:28PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI433 going around, wind out of limits.

EI563 also going around, wind now varying from 190 degrees and 250 degrees.

mrt16 · 05-12-2015 02:30PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Looking at Flightradar, there are 0 Ryanair flights going To or From Dublin ATM.

My flight to Glasgow was cancelled this morning:(

Trebor176 · 05-12-2015 02:36PM

It looks like EI433 is going around again.

fuerte1976 · 05-12-2015 02:39PM

Missus boarding EI3205 in Kerry to Dublin . All the flights out of Kerry including all regional are operating. Bit blustery here tho...

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 02:45PM

EI3254/STK3254 (An A321) appearing on ground radar now at Dublin operating DUB-EDI. Considering it has a stobart callsign, it's likely to be filling in for all the cancelled stobart flights.

EI433 also diverting, not sure where, looks like Shannon.

Trebor176 · 05-12-2015 02:48PM

Is EI433 diverting? It's gone up to over 11,000 ft now.

EDIT: Answered above. It had been holding for a while.

Cessna_Pilot · 05-12-2015 02:53PM

Nibs05 wrote: »

How can the blue air 738 can take off and Ryanair can't

Could be any number or reasons, from getting a gap in the wind, to a slightly higher company imposed xwind limit etc.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 03:06PM

WX113 going around. 10min gusts now 52knots.

Trebor176 · 05-12-2015 03:06PM

BCY13C is going back around, as is EI-DEO.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 03:09PM

EI403 also going around.

coffeepls · 05-12-2015 03:37PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI403 also going around.

Missed landing twice now - I think

cgill · 05-12-2015 03:37PM

Carnacalla wrote:

EI403 also going around.

Gone around again

Trebor176 · 05-12-2015 03:38PM

EI403 is up again. Another go around or diversion?

arbour · 05-12-2015 03:38PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI403 also going around.

Gone around 2nd time and now off to Shannon

BMJD · 05-12-2015 03:50PM

36 Ryanair 737s on the ground by my count :eek:

Gonna take a while to clear the backlog I think, when they eventually do get moving again.

trellheim · 05-12-2015 03:59PM

The D gates must be bedlam

http://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/ryanair-services/cancellations.php?date=2015-12-05

I count over 110 cancelled FR flights alone

sharkman · 05-12-2015 04:09PM

WX311 taking a very strange route to Cork ..

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 04:11PM

EI823 going around at Cork

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 04:12PM

sharkman wrote: »

WX311 taking a very strange route to Cork ..

Due to a divert to SEN its taking a different routing.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 04:15PM

The two stobarts that diverted FR Cork to Shannon are scheduled to be off from Shannon to Bristol and Edinbrugh respectively. The flight to EDI is now at Dundalk.

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