Flightradar24 Thread Part II

road_high · 05-12-2015 11:05AM

baldshin wrote: »

Been sat on the tarmac on a Ryanair Dublin to Manchester flight for almost 4 hours now. Flights been cancelled but as we pulled out from the gate the space was taken, so there's nowhere to let us disembark. Have heard from the pilot twice in four hours and only been offered to BUY bottled water. This cant be right treatment can it!?

Sounds like hell. Understand competently it's horrendous weather and they can't help that, but leaving two hundred or so passengers for hours on end with no refreshments or opportunity to get on or off is just inhumane. You wouldn't actually treat a dog like that.
I don't know any of the rules governing such things but common sense should come into play.

billie1b · 05-12-2015 11:08AM

Ryanair Santa flight canx, poor kids

baldshin · 05-12-2015 11:08AM

road_high wrote: »

Sounds like hell. Understand competently it's horrendous weather and they can't help that, but leaving two hundred or so passengers for hours on end with no refreshments or opportunity to get on or off is just inhumane. You wouldn't actually treat a dog like that.
I don't know any of the rules governing such things but common sense should come into play.

I'm not bothered by the cancellation at all, if it's not safe to fly then I'm quite happy it's been cancelled! Disappointing as I was going over to the match to meet friends over from Oz but that cant be helped. Just bemused by the way it's been handled so far, and no doubt it'll be poorly handled when we eventually get off! Wonder if I can get my return flight tomorrow refunded?

Chris_5339762 · 05-12-2015 11:08AM

Yeah you'd think that at least they could pop the plane at a stand SOMEWHERE and at the least get buses to disembark everyone.

baldshin · 05-12-2015 11:10AM

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yeah you'd think that at least they could pop the plane at a stand SOMEWHERE and at the least get buses to disembark everyone.

We're only about 50 metres from where we boarded too!

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 11:11AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI1135 holding at Dublin. It's on the way up from Shannon carrying passengers booked on E135 SNN-BOS due to a 757 going tech several days ago and all flights being cancelled since.

Going around. Windshear at 500ft +15knots.

IQO · 05-12-2015 11:12AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI1135 holding at Dublin. It's on the way up from Shannon carrying passengers booked on E135 SNN-BOS due to a 757 going tech several days ago and all flights being cancelled since.

Missed approach after making three rounds of holding. Windshear warning and will try again soon.

road_high · 05-12-2015 11:12AM

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yeah you'd think that at least they could pop the plane at a stand SOMEWHERE and at the least get buses to disembark everyone.

My thoughts exactly. I think they call it organisation. Airports should be fully versed in such events, shouldn't be too hard to take people off a flight rather than leaning them there like cabbages going nowhere!

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 11:23AM

EI233 going around.

Chris_5339762 · 05-12-2015 11:24AM

road_high wrote: »

My thoughts exactly. I think they call it organisation. Airports should be fully versed in such events, shouldn't be too hard to take people off a flight rather than leaning them there like cabbages going nowhere!

And since no flights are leaving, pushback the plane that is at the gate, let you guys into the gate to disembark, then swap the planes back.

It really shouldn't be that hard, most of the ground staff (at a wild guess) wouldn't be doing too much this morning due to the lack of flights!

Edit: Wait for the media to blame Ryanair. Start tweeting RTE about the whole thing, might keep you entertained.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 11:28AM

Lots of disruption at Dublin today by the looks of it. If I'm not incorrect ALL Aer Lingus regional services in Ireland are cancelled today, as well as several Ryanair services at Dublin.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 11:29AM

LH983 just took off from Dublin with almost a 5 hour delay.

road_high · 05-12-2015 11:40AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Lots of disruption at Dublin today by the looks of it. If I'm not incorrect ALL Aer Lingus regional services in Ireland are cancelled today, as well as several Ryanair services at Dublin.

I was on one of those Aer Lingus regionals last night. I'm no aviation expert at all, but the landing and approach we endured into Dublin just couldn't have been safe. Having been on one I can see why they are all cancelled today and would have gladly taken a cancellation on the chin!

Cessna_Pilot · 05-12-2015 11:55AM

road_high wrote: »

I was on one of those Aer Lingus regionals last night. I'm no aviation expert at all, but the landing and approach we endured into Dublin just couldn't have been safe. Having been on one I can see why they are all cancelled today and would have gladly taken a cancellation on the chin!

The pilots wouldn't have flown the approach and landing if it wasn't on or below the limits. Unsafe no, uncomfortable and probably on the limits yes. Hence why you are here today to talk about it :pac:

ImDave · 05-12-2015 12:01PM

I'm on the ground having just landed and waiting for a stand at T2. I've never seen so many FR aircraft in one place - I can count 23 from where I am now.

Delboy2015 · 05-12-2015 12:16PM

FR9944 / RYR71JX going around in Cork

EI711 / EIN711 holding over Cork also

homerjay2005 · 05-12-2015 12:18PM

Just landed, twas a bit rough, had a big drop coming in which had the women on board in hystrerics but overall fantastic work from the crew, very good landing in difficult conditions.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 12:20PM

Delboy2015 wrote: »

FR9944 / RYR71JX going around in Cork

Looks like an early enough go around, if an attempt was even made.

Mean speed at Cork has been consistently over 30knots for hours.

road_high · 05-12-2015 12:23PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Just landed, twas a bit rough, had a big drop coming in which had the women on board in hystrerics but overall fantastic work from the crew, very good landing in difficult conditions.

Worst type of plane were you on homerjay?

Mebuntu · 05-12-2015 12:26PM

11.25am. As far as I can see not one FR has departed DUB this morning and most are showing cancelled. Apart from the Regional, EI flights seem to be operating as is BA.

Is the 738 more restricted in these conditions?

Last night at DUB several departing FR's that were holding for long periods at 28 had to eventually return to stand but had further delays as the stands were full and, according to communications I heard, only one tug driver was available to push the empty aircraft out of the way.

I'm not FR bashing, btw, I fly with them all the time and never had a problem but this all sounds very unusual.

Pat Dunne · 05-12-2015 12:26PM

road_high wrote: »

I was on one of those Aer Lingus regionals last night. I'm no aviation expert at all, but the landing and approach we endured into Dublin just couldn't have been safe. Having been on one I can see why they are all cancelled today and would have gladly taken a cancellation on the chin!

You can be assured that the pilots will only fly the aircraft within the acceptable and safe limits that the aircraft is certified to operate within.
Yes, it can get bumpy and sometimes unpleasant, however passenger and crew safety is paramount.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 12:35PM

Mebuntu wrote: »

11.25am. As far as I can see not one FR has departed DUB this morning and most are showing cancelled. Apart from the Regional, EI flights seem to be operating as is BA.

Is the 738 more restricted in these conditions?

Last night at DUB several departing FR's that were holding for long periods at 28 had to eventually return to stand but had further delays as the stands were full and, according to communications I heard, only one tug driver was available to push the empty aircraft out of the way.

I'm not FR bashing, btw, I fly with them all the time and never had a problem but this all sounds very unusual.

FR6875
FR7124
FR7256
FR22
FR7044
FR152
FR534
FR332
FR1964

Plus several more are listed as taken off from 6-10am according to FR24. Some may be errors.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 12:37PM

Delboy2015 wrote: »

FR9944 / RYR71JX going around in Cork

EI711 / EIN711 holding over Cork also

FR9944 going for a 2nd attempt.

Edit: Landed.

highlydebased · 05-12-2015 12:38PM

Nice rare 727 landing at SNN now. Reg HZ-AB3

sharkman · 05-12-2015 12:39PM

billie1b wrote: »

Ryanair Santa flight canx, poor kids

As was Thompson's , possibility of doing it tomorrow .

road_high · 05-12-2015 12:43PM

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

The pilots wouldn't have flown the approach and landing if it wasn't on or below the limits. Unsafe no, uncomfortable and probably on the limits yes. Hence why you are here today to talk about it :pac:

Absolutely, I really admire the flight and cabin crew for getting us down safe and working in such conditions!
Not been on a flight for a while where everyone clapped on landing but definitely happened last night!

Cessna_Pilot · 05-12-2015 12:51PM

Mebuntu wrote: »

11.25am. As far as I can see not one FR has departed DUB this morning and most are showing cancelled. Apart from the Regional, EI flights seem to be operating as is BA.

Is the 738 more restricted in these conditions?

Last night at DUB several departing FR's that were holding for long periods at 28 had to eventually return to stand but had further delays as the stands were full and, according to communications I heard, only one tug driver was available to push the empty aircraft out of the way.

I'm not FR bashing, btw, I fly with them all the time and never had a problem but this all sounds very unusual.

Winglet equipped 738, wet crosswind take off limit is 25 knots. Doesn't look like dropping any time soon so good call by their ops in my honest opinion :cool:

IQO · 05-12-2015 12:57PM

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Winglet equipped 738, wet crosswind take off limit is 25 knots. Doesn't look like dropping any time soon so good call by their ops in my honest opinion :cool:

What about the winglets equipped 738 from BlueAir - http://www.flightradar24.com/reg/yr-bmb, landed about half an hour ago.. let's see if it will go for a departure soon.

Mebuntu · 05-12-2015 01:08PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

FR6875
FR7124
FR7256
FR22
FR7044
FR152
FR534
FR332
FR1964

Plus several more are listed as taken off from 6-10am according to FR24. Some may be errors.

I was looking at the DAA flight info which must be inaccurate, so, yet they claim to get their info from the airlines. Nothing FR has been listed all morning as having departed including all flights to/from UK which have been listed cancelled or are just blank. Meanwhile mainline EI/BA and others are listed as departed.

JCX BXC · 05-12-2015 01:35PM

EI331 going around.

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