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The greed of the Irish strikes again....Adele concert!!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Nah, she's calling him back now.
    I have to say I don't think it's an Irish thing and I have been known to give out yards about the Irish, let's not go there right now...
    It really is a case of people are willing to pay, so let's up the price until they're stop buying. My issue is also a bit with the morons paying idiotic prices and ruining it for genuine fans.
    Moderate capitalism used to be calculate your cost and add a margin. These days it's more "how much can we screw out of the bastard before us tells us to fcuk off". But hardly specifically Irish.
    But it is true that everything has always been at least 20% more expensive here, so higher wages offset by higher costs, so in the end it all ends up the same. That much cannot be disputed. Food, housing, entertainment, transport, energy, healthcare, education and anything else has always been more expensive here than anywhere else on Europe. Its was almost a point of pride in 2006 that Dublin was more expensive than Paris. In a way its equality, everyone thinks they are 20% better off than anyone else in Europe, while really they pay 20% more and in the end they are not.
    And the few poor people who her crushed under the wheels of this particular gravy train? Well, they're poor, so they hardly matter.

    I don't think food in shops is expensive in Ireland anymore. Restaurants are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I'd have a limited amount of sympathy for anyone paying actual money to see her though.

    Couldn't agree more. Which is why I paid for my tickets with monopoly money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,105 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Greedy Irish you say? The problem here is the morons who will pay that money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

    Really annoys me , as if bad things don't happen in other countries and ignoring the good things here.

    Have lived abroad for years and missed Ireland like hell, it's not perfect but no where is and Ireland is a great place to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

    I hate it too

    and it only happens in Ireland, its a disgrace


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    I heard for the U2 concerts the credit card used to buy the tickets originally was also your ticket to get in. why isn't that practice universal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Why is she everywhere again all of a sudden? And why has she not got a bleedin' surname?

    Probably something to do with her last album being the 20th best selling album of all time, and the second bigger of the last 17-18 years (just narrowly behind the Beatles #1 collection album). And now this one being the best selling album for first week sales since they began tracking that back in 1991. In it's first two weeks it has sold something like 4.5mn copies, and with Christmas just three weeks away it's likely going to keep a pretty strong pace for the next while.

    I'm not a huge fan of hers or anything, but they're some pretty mental numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It is the market, no different to people queuing up to buy houses selling at €400k, and finding the same house hard to sell at €200k a few years later.
    It is all about demand.

    You can find concert tickets for sale for concerts in other countries at inflated prices if you look, not a unique Irish thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Why is she everywhere again all of a sudden? And why has she not got a bleedin' surname?

    I think she ate her second name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭screamer


    Sweet Jesus you'd have to pay me to sit through an Adele concert for a deluge of stalker songs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭Figbiscuithead


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

    Really annoys me , as if bad things don't happen in other countries and ignoring the good things here.

    Have lived abroad for years and missed Ireland like hell, it's not perfect but no where is and Ireland is a great place to live.


    Greed is everywhere. From American multinationals with sweatshops in India, from corrupt politicians in Spain, Greece and Italy, from European nations who've been happy to colonise/invade poorer countries for their natural resources right up to the current day etc. Greed is an exclusively Irish trait me hole and ticket touting happens absolutely EVERYWHERE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

    My experience, my comment....live with it ;-)

    Ticketmaster aren't even an Irish company.

    That said, they are absolute scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    If she was singing up my garden, I wouldn't open the curtains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    To me there is something wrong with ticket master the company selling the tickets also owning seatwave and seatwave is advertised on the ticket master webster.

    Who is to know how many tickets were actually sold to the public or allocated over to our sister company seatwave who will sell the tickets at 4 times the price plus a huge commission and make much more money per ticket.

    Maybe limit the amount of tickets per person. You can purchase 50 tickets at once on ticket master.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    I heard for the U2 concerts the credit card used to buy the tickets originally was also your ticket to get in. why isn't that practice universal?

    What's that going to do?

    It's Ticketmaster themselves doing this. All that inconvenient crap about 2 per customer and all the rest makes no odds at all, when they're only putting out 50% of the tickets in the place.

    Maybe less even, it could be a couple hundred on sale at normal price, then the rest of the phone online and on the phone get forwarded to Seatwave and offered tickets for 8 - 10 times the price.

    I actually agree with the capitalist view that it's a market and demand v supply dictates the price, that's all well n good when everyone has a fair chance. But now they don't, TM are manipulating the market by underhandedly shortening the demand.

    The best part is when they don't tell all the tout priced ones, so throw them back on the normal TM site, as an "anti-touting measure" no less :rolleyes:.


  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Deflection now.

    So OP starts a misinformed thread obviously having no idea how scalping happens after a sell out of any major gig the world over. Claims the fordeners are much nicer people.

    Doesn't get all the pats on the back he was expecting so tries to move on to some irrelevant point about rent, obviously not realsing there's also rent controls the world over.

    OP needs to get out of the local bubble he's living in.

    It's called 'an example'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Touting should be made illegal, whether its from dodgy lads outside the gig or official outlets.


  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    "My statement appears to have upset some folk....therefore it is true"
    Famous quote from Irishman 'Youngblood.III'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    €1503 for four tickets......



  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    €1503 for four tickets......


    Its probably 'ToGreedy'...oh sorry i meant 'ThisRegard' selling it.....lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    So Youngblood just sent me an unsolicited PM with the following "Hi...I'll give you €1500 for those Adele tickets your selling........".

    Anyone want to Photoshop me a couple and we'll take this naive fool for everything he offers, 50/50?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    It is typical to see Irish people to screw each other, this is a typical example, who else are trying to flog their tickets for hugely inflated prices for the Irish gig....Irish people!
    I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.
    Mmmmm....government has to bring in 2yr rent freeze because rents were been increased and landlords costs were not....simply greed!

    Mod:

    Enough of the generalisations, Irish people or otherwise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    €1503 for four tickets......


    In a country where people are charged €3 for a water menu it's probably good value! As someone said previously, 'fools and their money....'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    It seems rather than put an end to touting tickets, ticket master has got on board with 'seatwave' and facilitate greedy people with no interest in attending the concert.

    'One fan, who failed to secure regular tickets on the main Ticketmaster site, was quoted a price of €1275.16 for four tickets, plus €227.96 booking fee for a total cost of €1503 via Seatserve'

    'Fans were outraged by the inflated prices of the resale tickets, with one fan branding Ticketmaster "basically touts now with SeatWave".

    A fool and their money are easy parted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    It seems rather than put an end to touting tickets, ticket master has got on board with 'seatwave' and facilitate greedy people with no interest in attending the concert.

    'One fan, who failed to secure regular tickets on the main Ticketmaster site, was quoted a price of €1275.16 for four tickets, plus €227.96 booking fee for a total cost of €1503 via Seatserve'

    'Fans were outraged by the inflated prices of the resale tickets, with one fan branding Ticketmaster "basically touts now with SeatWave".

    Just needs Adeles management group to say no transfers and Seatwave/Ticketmaster wouldn't be able to do it.

    6.8 You may not resell or transfer your tickets if prohibited by law. In addition, Event Partners may prohibit the resale or transfer of tickets for some events. Any resale or transfer (or attempted resale or transfer) of a ticket in breach of the applicable law or any restrictions imposed by the Event Partner is grounds for seizure or cancellation of that ticket without refund or other compensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Canadel


    mikeym wrote: »
    So I find it disgusting that some people think they can charge double.
    This thread shows the stupidity and entitlement of people rather than the greed of touts. If anything, tout prices show the true market value of a ticket. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the game. You could argue for more rigid regulation of the official ticket market, but nothing will ever be achieved by blaming touts other than fooling yourself into thinking you hold some sort of moral superiority over such people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,365 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    It's called 'an example'

    Maybe it is but next time use a better one.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It is typical to see Irish people to screw each other, this is a typical example, who else are trying to flog their tickets for hugely inflated prices for the Irish gig....Irish people!

    You've got to be kidding me.. Talk about living in a bubble.


  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    Mod:

    Enough of the generalisations, Irish people or otherwise

    It's my experience and opinion, if people don't agree so be it.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Youngblood.III


    Anyway I'm off the start a thread on how to upset people.

    Bye ;-)


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