The greed of the Irish strikes again....Adele concert!!!

Youngblood.III

It seems rather than put an end to touting tickets, ticket master has got on board with 'seatwave' and facilitate greedy people with no interest in attending the concert.

'One fan, who failed to secure regular tickets on the main Ticketmaster site, was quoted a price of €1275.16 for four tickets, plus €227.96 booking fee for a total cost of €1503 via Seatserve'

'Fans were outraged by the inflated prices of the resale tickets, with one fan branding Ticketmaster "basically touts now with SeatWave".

Kristopherus

Ticketmaster are/were plying there trade at standards just short of toutism with all the extra charges they pile on to online & phone bookings:mad:.

GLaDOS

This is in no way unique to Ireland

ThisRegard

Cop on, it's nothing to do with "the Irish" ffs. Her gigs in the UK went on sale today too and the very same thing is happening with those tickets.

colm_mcm

As long as people keep buying tickets at inflated prices, there'll always be a market.
I'd have a limited amount of sympathy for anyone paying actual money to see her though.

Omackeral

Why is she everywhere again all of a sudden? And why has she not got a bleedin' surname?

Youngblood.III

ThisRegard wrote: »

Cop on, it's BH nothing to do with "the Irish" ffs. Her gigs in the UK went on sale today too and the very same thing is happening with those tickets.

It is typical to see Irish people to screw each other, this is a typical example, who else are trying to flog their tickets for hugely inflated prices for the Irish gig....Irish people!

ThisRegard

Youngblood.III wrote: »

It is typical to see Irish people to screw each other, this is a typical example, who else are trying to flog their tickets for hugely inflated prices for the Irish gig....Irish people!

Can you not comprehend that it's not unique to Ireland, can I make my post simpler for you?

Junkyard Tom

Cherry picker. Few cans. Sorted.

OU812

Ticket master own half of heatwave (& stubhub in the US which does the same thing)./ They're basically double dipping on charges. Perfectly legal. the tickets will only sell for €1500 if someone is willing to pay it.

I've never had an issue at all getting tickets for anything, don't know why people constantly give out, It's easy if you really want them bad enough.

Youngblood.III

ThisRegard wrote: »

Can you not comprehend that it's not unique to Ireland, can I make my post simpler for you?

I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

My experience, my comment....live with it ;-)

Azalea

Youngblood.III wrote: »

I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

My experience, my comment....live with it ;-)

Probably because you see more Irish people full stop. You're Irish - do you screw over others a lot?

The Backwards Man

I won't be paying it anyway.

readytosnap

I would be interested to know how many genuine fans wanted but didn't get tickets, the way to stop the touts is add more dates till the tickets stop selling, i know that is not really practical but in theory it would work. as for seatwave I have sold tickets on there before and got 5 times their face value for a gig I couldn't attend (unforeseen circumstances), so i stuck them on there for 1k each and they sold in a week I couldn't believe it, I genuinely had my tongue in cheek putting up the asking price and then had my jaw on the floor when they sold. Does that make me a tout? I sold a spare for U2 (Dublin 3) for 170 it cost me 198, that probably makes me a bad tout. I don't agree that people should buy just with the intention of selling. Seatwave charge the buyer a "buying fee" and they charge the seller a "sellers fee" in my case the price for the 2 tickets was 2000 euro the buyer paid 2240 + 30 for postage, I received 1769 from the 2k, face value was 400. it cost me 32 to send the tickets to europe (next day DHL via An Post). Seatwave obviously have overheads but they are double dipping. I would never pay over 2k for 2 concert tickets no matter how much I liked the band / artist. no one is worth that kinda money.

Agricola

Youngblood.III wrote: »

I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

My friend Stelios in Athens would disagree for one

RayCon

Is she still yapping on about breaking up etc ?

Youngblood.III

Within a minute of been on sale, there were tickets on the tout site....

ThisRegard

Youngblood.III wrote: »

I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

My experience, my comment....live with it ;-)

How many countries abroad have you lived in for comparison purposes?

dr.fuzzenstein

RayCon wrote: »

Is she still yapping on about breaking up etc ?

Nah, she's calling him back now.
I have to say I don't think it's an Irish thing and I have been known to give out yards about the Irish, let's not go there right now...
It really is a case of people are willing to pay, so let's up the price until they're stop buying. My issue is also a bit with the morons paying idiotic prices and ruining it for genuine fans.
Moderate capitalism used to be calculate your cost and add a margin. These days it's more "how much can we screw out of the bastard before us tells us to fcuk off". But hardly specifically Irish.
But it is true that everything has always been at least 20% more expensive here, so higher wages offset by higher costs, so in the end it all ends up the same. That much cannot be disputed. Food, housing, entertainment, transport, energy, healthcare, education and anything else has always been more expensive here than anywhere else on Europe. Its was almost a point of pride in 2006 that Dublin was more expensive than Paris. In a way its equality, everyone thinks they are 20% better off than anyone else in Europe, while really they pay 20% more and in the end they are not.
And the few poor people who her crushed under the wheels of this particular gravy train? Well, they're poor, so they hardly matter.

jamesbere

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Nah, she's calling him back now.

He'll be dead on the next album

Youngblood.III

Mmmmm....government has to bring in 2yr rent freeze because rents were been increased and landlords costs were not....simply greed!

The Backwards Man

Youngblood.III wrote: »

Mmmmm....government has to bring in 2yr rent freeze because rents were been increased and landlords costs were not....simply greed!

Jackie Joyner would be proud of that leap

ThisRegard

Youngblood.III wrote: »

Mmmmm....government has to bring in 2yr rent freeze because rents were been increased and landlords costs were not....simply greed!

Deflection now.

So OP starts a misinformed thread obviously having no idea how scalping happens after a sell out of any major gig the world over. Claims the fordeners are much nicer people.

Doesn't get all the pats on the back he was expecting so tries to move on to some irrelevant point about rent, obviously not realsing there's also rent controls the world over.

OP needs to get out of the local bubble he's living in.

mikeym

I tryed to get tickets this morning and last Wednesday to no avail.

I had 2 spare Ed Sheeran tickets and my wife sold them for the same price I paid for them.

So I find it disgusting that some people think they can charge double.

Figbiscuithead

Agricola wrote: »

My friend Stelios in Athens would disagree for one

Jurgan from Hamburg would certainly have something to say about this also.

Arbiter of Good Taste

Youngblood.III wrote: »

Mmmmm....government has to bring in 2yr rent freeze because rents were been increased and landlords costs were not....simply greed!

Scraping the bottom of the barrel I see

namloc1980

Yet another "Only on Ireland" thread relating to something that happens the world over.

Nobody is being forced to buy tickets at inflated prices.

Irish Halo

They are trying to combat this in the UK (although I think they are using Songkick):
http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/team-adele-wage-war-on-ticket-touts-and-so-far-its-working/

However seatwave, stubhub, viagogo et al are all tout scum, I used to think Ticketmaster were bad but jaysus ...

Arbiter of Good Taste

mikeym wrote: »

I tryed to get tickets this morning and last Wednesday to no avail.

I had 2 spare Ed Sheeran tickets and my wife sold them for the same price I paid for them.

So I find it disgusting that some people think they can charge double.

I agree, but unfortunately if there are idiots prepared to pay obscene amounts of money which they will probably end up viewing through the camera on their phone, then tickets will continue to be sold for those prices

namloc1980

Irish Halo wrote: »

They are trying to combat this in the UK (although I think they are using Songkick):
http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/team-adele-wage-war-on-ticket-touts-and-so-far-its-working/

However seatwave, stubhub, viagogo et al are all tout scum, I used to think Ticketmaster were bad but jaysus ...

But people are clearly paying these prices. Why aren't you rallying against eejits paying hundreds of Euro over the odds for the likes of Adele?

MilesMorales1

A fool and his money are easily parted etc.

Eugene Norman

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Nah, she's calling him back now.
I have to say I don't think it's an Irish thing and I have been known to give out yards about the Irish, let's not go there right now...
It really is a case of people are willing to pay, so let's up the price until they're stop buying. My issue is also a bit with the morons paying idiotic prices and ruining it for genuine fans.
Moderate capitalism used to be calculate your cost and add a margin. These days it's more "how much can we screw out of the bastard before us tells us to fcuk off". But hardly specifically Irish.
But it is true that everything has always been at least 20% more expensive here, so higher wages offset by higher costs, so in the end it all ends up the same. That much cannot be disputed. Food, housing, entertainment, transport, energy, healthcare, education and anything else has always been more expensive here than anywhere else on Europe. Its was almost a point of pride in 2006 that Dublin was more expensive than Paris. In a way its equality, everyone thinks they are 20% better off than anyone else in Europe, while really they pay 20% more and in the end they are not.
And the few poor people who her crushed under the wheels of this particular gravy train? Well, they're poor, so they hardly matter.

I don't think food in shops is expensive in Ireland anymore. Restaurants are.

NachoBusiness

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd have a limited amount of sympathy for anyone paying actual money to see her though.

Couldn't agree more. Which is why I paid for my tickets with monopoly money.

lertsnim

Greedy Irish you say? The problem here is the morons who will pay that money.

murpho999

I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

Really annoys me , as if bad things don't happen in other countries and ignoring the good things here.

Have lived abroad for years and missed Ireland like hell, it's not perfect but no where is and Ireland is a great place to live.

nokia69

murpho999 wrote: »

I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

I hate it too

and it only happens in Ireland, its a disgrace

Minderbinder

I heard for the U2 concerts the credit card used to buy the tickets originally was also your ticket to get in. why isn't that practice universal?

Billy86

Omackeral wrote: »

Why is she everywhere again all of a sudden? And why has she not got a bleedin' surname?

Probably something to do with her last album being the 20th best selling album of all time, and the second bigger of the last 17-18 years (just narrowly behind the Beatles #1 collection album). And now this one being the best selling album for first week sales since they began tracking that back in 1991. In it's first two weeks it has sold something like 4.5mn copies, and with Christmas just three weeks away it's likely going to keep a pretty strong pace for the next while.

I'm not a huge fan of hers or anything, but they're some pretty mental numbers.

RobertKK

It is the market, no different to people queuing up to buy houses selling at €400k, and finding the same house hard to sell at €200k a few years later.
It is all about demand.

You can find concert tickets for sale for concerts in other countries at inflated prices if you look, not a unique Irish thing.

nokia69

Omackeral wrote: »

Why is she everywhere again all of a sudden? And why has she not got a bleedin' surname?

I think she ate her second name

screamer

Sweet Jesus you'd have to pay me to sit through an Adele concert for a deluge of stalker songs.

Figbiscuithead

murpho999 wrote: »

I hate the way people on internet platforms such as Boards or The Journal just run Ireland down all the time.

Really annoys me , as if bad things don't happen in other countries and ignoring the good things here.

Have lived abroad for years and missed Ireland like hell, it's not perfect but no where is and Ireland is a great place to live.

Greed is everywhere. From American multinationals with sweatshops in India, from corrupt politicians in Spain, Greece and Italy, from European nations who've been happy to colonise/invade poorer countries for their natural resources right up to the current day etc. Greed is an exclusively Irish trait me hole and ticket touting happens absolutely EVERYWHERE.

nxbyveromdwjpg

Youngblood.III wrote: »

I have seen Irish people **** over each other a lot more than other nationalities, a foreign friend of mine even commented on it.

My experience, my comment....live with it ;-)

Ticketmaster aren't even an Irish company.

That said, they are absolute scumbags.

Ally Dick

If she was singing up my garden, I wouldn't open the curtains

cassid

To me there is something wrong with ticket master the company selling the tickets also owning seatwave and seatwave is advertised on the ticket master webster.

Who is to know how many tickets were actually sold to the public or allocated over to our sister company seatwave who will sell the tickets at 4 times the price plus a huge commission and make much more money per ticket.

Maybe limit the amount of tickets per person. You can purchase 50 tickets at once on ticket master.

nxbyveromdwjpg

Minderbinder wrote: »

I heard for the U2 concerts the credit card used to buy the tickets originally was also your ticket to get in. why isn't that practice universal?

What's that going to do?

It's Ticketmaster themselves doing this. All that inconvenient crap about 2 per customer and all the rest makes no odds at all, when they're only putting out 50% of the tickets in the place.

Maybe less even, it could be a couple hundred on sale at normal price, then the rest of the phone online and on the phone get forwarded to Seatwave and offered tickets for 8 - 10 times the price.

I actually agree with the capitalist view that it's a market and demand v supply dictates the price, that's all well n good when everyone has a fair chance. But now they don't, TM are manipulating the market by underhandedly shortening the demand.

The best part is when they don't tell all the tout priced ones, so throw them back on the normal TM site, as an "anti-touting measure" no less :rolleyes:.

Youngblood.III

ThisRegard wrote: »

Deflection now.

So OP starts a misinformed thread obviously having no idea how scalping happens after a sell out of any major gig the world over. Claims the fordeners are much nicer people.

Doesn't get all the pats on the back he was expecting so tries to move on to some irrelevant point about rent, obviously not realsing there's also rent controls the world over.

OP needs to get out of the local bubble he's living in.

It's called 'an example'

super_furry

Touting should be made illegal, whether its from dodgy lads outside the gig or official outlets.

Youngblood.III

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the evasion_kid

€1503 for four tickets......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ip8gspFaH8

Youngblood.III

the evasion_kid wrote: »

€1503 for four tickets......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ip8gspFaH8

Its probably 'ToGreedy'...oh sorry i meant 'ThisRegard' selling it.....lol