Stallions

Dylan Thomas and Mahler would be two stallions which I have experienced to throw good big foals. D. Thomas great value imo

liverbear wrote: »

Looking at sales records doyen does well with shantou mares.

Dylan Thomas seems like good value alright.

Has anyone seen what Yeats produces? Leaning a bit that way

You need a big mare for Yeats. Better value to be got also. Cailifet is another you could look at

Another flat season done and dusted and a titanic battle between Dubawi and Galileo for the sires title ended with Galileo pulling clear after an awesome spell in the last few months of the season. Dubawi now heads to a fee of £220,000 which should make for some very choicely bred types by him hitting the track. He's stock have significantly lacked the precocity of the Galileo's and he seems to really excel with his older stock.


Invincible Spirit raised to €120,000 is a high class stallion and potential producer of desirably fast stallions which explains the fee raise. He's just €5,000 cheaper than Sea The Stars, would rather have the Sea The Stars fillies as potential broodmares than the Invincible Spirits and the reverse with the Invincible Spirit Colts as hotter stallion and racing prospects than the Sea The Stars types.

Hard to muster too much enthusiasm for the front two in the First season sires battle. Zoffany and Canford Cliffs supplied plenty of winners but there's a slight question hanging over the real quality of both their stock. No GP 1 winners yet for either which is unusual for the leading First season sires and is not very promising although they look well capable of banging in the winners time and time again.

Dream ahead has been a promising First season sire, find it hard to know what to make of Roderic O'Connor, he's done quite well I think. Pour Moi may be a slow burner, looking forward to seeing what his stock can do at 3+.

Would like to see Mastercraftsman being treated to some top quality mares and to see the likes of Ballydoyle training more of his stock.

Gleneagles starts off at €60,000 which seems a little steep but if he gets good looking stock they'll sell very well, he's awfully well bred as a potential sire but had his reputation seriously damaged by the will he won't he run nonsense. Think myself they knew he was gone before the Autumn and they should have packed in his season instead of pretending otherwise.

That list is insane - there'll be serious over production of NH horses in the coming years judging by it.

liverbear wrote: »

She is by shantou

Have you, or anyone else here, used Shantou last year.....what kind of money are they likely to be looking for next year ?

Toast Of New York retired and going to stud. If it doesn't produce the goods, it will have been an expensive mistake for Al Shaqab racing.

liverbear wrote: »

4500 I hear

Thanks,
I suppose they do a filly deal of some sort ?

ITM Irish Stallion Trail

22nd & 23rd January 2016

Over 20 stud farms will open their doors just before the official opening of the traditional covering season offering breeders the opportunity to see some of the best stallions in the world

http://www.itm.ie/en/Stallion_Trail/Stud_Listings/

I went to coolmore on the stallion trail. Enjoyable day. They took out all the stallions except galileo and ruler of the world. All magnificent walkers. Camelot put on a bit of a show. Reared up a few times. Australia was the centre piece walked a lot for us. I was surprised by how small some of them were. Pour moi looked very well, i reckon he will be a great nh sire, but they are giving him a chance to produce on the flat.

I went to sunnyhill after. Doyen and lucky speed both looked great

tatoo wrote: »

A friend of mine rang about booking him and was asked €7k !

What is the mare like? Yeats is listed at 7.5.

Don't think 7 is right.

Don't know if Wolfe Tone is still around,
Well Chosen is getting a few winners - what kind of fee is he at ?

tatoo wrote: »

I haven't seen Lucky Speed yet, is he a big strong horse, ....good bone ?

Good looking horse. Tall looking 16.2. Good bone.

Still looks like a racehorse. He will take a few years to fill out and look like a stallion. I thought Doyen was far more impressive. Lucky speed hasn't a bit of white on him, which some will like.

Give him 3 years and he will be a right looker too.

Folks anyone know if famous name throws good sized stock?

As I said when he went to stud and stand by it I firmly believe Sea The Stars will be recognised as a National hunt sire eventually.