Would you say Dubliners are of a Gaelic heritage?

DanielODonnell · 03-12-2015 03:37PM #1

It has always been questionable due to the history of Dublin but the modern media paint Dublin as the Gaelic stronghold of Ireland, possibly it has turned more Gaelic over the past couple of centuries due to rural Gaels moving in.

testaccount123 · 03-12-2015 03:38PM

Id say Dubliners are of a Dublin heritage

MagicIRL · 03-12-2015 03:38PM

This will end well.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-12-2015 03:40PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

It has always been questionable due to the history of Dublin but the modern media paint Dublin as the Gaelic stronghold of Ireland, possibly it has turned more Gaelic over the past couple of centuries due to rural Gaels moving in.

Unless, for some reason, Gaels only settled in the other 31 counties, then no.

In what way, though, has it "been questionable due to the history of Dublin"? Any specific examples?

I'd argue it's more multi-cultrual, but that's more because people moving to other countries tend to settle in the bigger cities first becuase it;s easier to get jobs and acclimatise.

Ficheall · 03-12-2015 03:41PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

the modern media paint Dublin as the Gaelic stronghold of Ireland

Do they?

PopePalpatine · 03-12-2015 03:44PM

Something something West Brits. :rolleyes:

seamus · 03-12-2015 03:46PM

Who gives an actual fnck?

03-12-2015 03:47PM

Remind me of a bizarre conversation I had with someone about Dublin GAA, They were utterly convinced that the gaa in Dublin only did so well because of people from the country moving to Dublin, because there couldn't be an innate gaa culture in the dubs.

Skylinehead · 03-12-2015 03:47PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

the modern media paint Dublin as the Gaelic stronghold of Ireland

[citation needed]

The Backwards Man · 03-12-2015 03:48PM

My granny used to say about Daniel, grand enough singer until he opens his mouth.

She couldn't stand listening to his accent, I mean

ClovenHoof · 03-12-2015 03:48PM

Norse Vikings. The people of Galway and Cork city are genetically as English as Finchley.

Patser · 03-12-2015 03:51PM

We won the Gaelic Football All Ireland championship fair and square (and the league)

Deal with it.

Mesrine65 · 03-12-2015 03:51PM

suicide_circus · 03-12-2015 03:51PM

Slightly off topic but the celts were for the most part originally from what is now Austria, Bavaria, Czech Republic and Switzerland. Just remember that heritage and birthrights are claimed and twisted throughout history to fit agaendas.

The_Valeyard · 03-12-2015 03:54PM

Its well known that Dubliners are from the heritage of Mordor.

Seriously though, we have been conquered and invaded so often, were all a little bit of mixed heritage.

gramar · 03-12-2015 03:56PM

I'd say the Dubliners were more into music and boozing.

biko · 03-12-2015 03:56PM

Dublin and its suburbs are reported to be the site of the largest number of daily Irish speakers, with 14,229 persons speaking Irish daily, representing 18 per cent of all daily speakers.
In a survey of a small sample of adults who had grown up in Dublin and had completed full-time education, 54% of respondents reported some fluency in Irish, ranging from being able to make small talk to complete fluency.
Only 19% of speakers spoke Irish three or more times per week, with a plurality (43%) speaking Irish less than once a fortnight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaeltacht#Dublin

The Backwards Man · 03-12-2015 03:58PM

biko wrote: »

How can it be a stronghold when it's nigh impossible to find someone who speaks even a coupla focal and there are no gaeltachts in the pale?

Is there not one in Meath?

biko · 03-12-2015 03:59PM

I revised my post after a visit to Wikipedia.
I've yet to meet any of these alleged speakers though.

The Backwards Man · 03-12-2015 04:00PM

biko wrote: »

I revised my post after a visit to Wikipedia.

I'm keeping mine up to make me look intelligent

LordSutch · 03-12-2015 04:03PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Would you say Dubliners are of a Gaelic heritage?

No...more like Anglo-Norse/Viking heritage (depending on how far back you go).

kettlehead · 03-12-2015 04:07PM

mariaalice wrote: »

Remind me of a bizarre conversation I had with someone about Dublin GAA, They were utterly convinced that the gaa in Dublin only did so well because of people from the country moving to Dublin, because there couldn't be an innate gaa culture in the dubs.

Not entirely untrue. Huge numbers of country folk are involved in Dublin GAA clubs throughout the city. It's not unusual to see kids turn up for training sporting a Tipp, Donegal or Wexford Jersey for training as their parents and grandparents are from there.

Go through the Dublin team and nearly all of them have a country parent(s). Sure even the Brogans ma is from Kerry! It definitely helps.

goose2005 · 03-12-2015 04:10PM

Over the last 200 years or so there has been constant migration from rural Ireland to Dublin. Most "skangers" etc. are only 1 or 2 generations removed from tiny shacks in Laois or Kerry.

03-12-2015 04:13PM

kettlehead wrote: »

Not entirely untrue. Huge numbers of country folk are involved in Dublin GAA clubs throughout the city. It's not unusual to see kids turn up for training sporting a Tipp, Donegal or Wexford Jersey for training as their parents and grandparents are from there.

Go through the Dublin team and nearly all of them have a country parent(s). Sure even the Brogans ma is from Kerry! It definitely helps.

I will defer to you better knowledge, but there is definitely an innate gaa culture in Dublin especially on the north side

I have seen shops and pubs with their names in Irish in Drumcondra if I am not mistaken.

Your Face · 03-12-2015 04:17PM

Is this what people think about?
Get a hobby.

c_man · 03-12-2015 04:21PM

Would you say Dubliners are of a Gaelic heritage?

Yes. Yes, I would.

03-12-2015 04:22PM

This sort of thread usually has something about all the dubs in the British army and how the ordinary dubs didn't support the rising as proof that the dubs aren't like the rest of Ireland.

There is definitely the dubs are not like the rest of us vibe in Irish society. It is peculiar.

darkpagandeath · 03-12-2015 04:25PM

This is all well and good but, the People that populated Ireland came from the Portugal/Spain area and not Celtic Europe. Red hair is generally Nordic just like in Scotland. A small Celtic outpost was all that was in Ireland no invasion or genocide. Also the language was a trading language made people about as Roman as speaking Latin.

LordSutch · 03-12-2015 04:52PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

This is all well and good but, the People that populated Ireland came from the Portugal/Spain area and not Celtic Europe. Red hair is generally Nordic just like in Scotland. A small Celtic outpost was all that was in Ireland no invasion or genocide. Also the language was a trading language made people about as Roman as speaking Latin.

So we're half Portuguese/half Spanish :cool:

But how did we get here then? and did we come via Britain?

I always thought Dubliners were of Anglo/Norse stock (within the Pale).

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-12-2015 05:09PM

mariaalice wrote: »

I will defer to you better knowledge, but there is definitely an innate gaa culture in Dublin especially on the north side

I have seen shops and pubs with their names in Irish in Drumcondra if I am not mistaken.

no true blue dub has anything to do with it

our game is football

seamus · 03-12-2015 05:14PM

kettlehead wrote: »

Not entirely untrue. Huge numbers of country folk are involved in Dublin GAA clubs throughout the city. It's not unusual to see kids turn up for training sporting a Tipp, Donegal or Wexford Jersey for training as their parents and grandparents are from there.

Go through the Dublin team and nearly all of them have a country parent(s). Sure even the Brogans ma is from Kerry! It definitely helps.

Same can be said for practically all counties tbh. Because we're a small country, we're pretty fluid in where we live and who we mix with.

Talk to any Irish person and it's rare you'll find that they have more than than 2 generations of "purity" from the one county.

Would you say Dubliners are of a Gaelic heritage?

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