TUF 22 - Europe vs USA (McGregor & Faber coaching)Contains Spoilers

martyos121 · 02-12-2015 12:32PM

DeVore wrote: »

Was there a TUF episode last night or is it tonight?

Tonight, 3AM our time I think.

John_D80 · 03-12-2015 12:05PM

Artem must surely be fancied for a place in the final now. If he can close the distance with Erosa, he could do some serious damage.

kearneybobs · 03-12-2015 12:51PM

Watching the first fight without anyone cheering along or people cornering them was a weird experience.

martyos121 · 03-12-2015 01:32PM

Another solid episode, thought both decisions were wrong though. David's ground striking was excellent, those elbow from the bottom looked deadly at one point, should've gone to a third round.

Abner's striking was much crisper than Julian's, I think the cut weighed too heavily on the minds of the judges in favour of Julian. Hopefully Artem smashes him, can't stand the buck at all.

I nearly jumped out of my seat when I saw José at the end in the preview to next week's episode. Didn't see that coming at all, Conor's reaction was just brilliant!

stephenl15 · 03-12-2015 01:48PM

Next week will be a cracker

I'll be in Vegas so dunno when/if I'll get to see it, will probably see the finale before I see the semis

DeVore · 03-12-2015 02:04PM

Ngggh... I have a bad feeling for Artem versus that ... guy.

I would love to seem him knock him dafuk out but wouldn't we have heard if Artem made the finals? ... he IS in Vegas I guess but that could be for any number of reasons... God, cant wait for next week. 'Mon Artem!

martyos121 · 03-12-2015 02:09PM

DeVore wrote: »

Ngggh... I have a bad feeling for Artem versus that ... guy.
I would love to seem him knock him dafuk out but wouldn't we have heard if Artem made the finals? ... he IS in Vegas I guess but that could be for any number of reasons... God, cant wait for next week. 'Mon Artem!

In fairness, the UFC has always done an impeccable job of keeping the results of TUF under wraps. I can't recall any instance where it's been spoiled before the finale, but I haven't been watching it since series 1 so that may have happened.

Based on his performances during the season, I'd be more inclined to think Artem is in the finale, but I've absolutely no concrete knowledge of that. He's definitely on the TUF finale card at least, Conor already said that much.

DeVore · 03-12-2015 03:09PM

Oh I think Artem can win that fight for sure... I'm just looking at the surrounding information (and now beginning to think maybe I shouldn't

)

MartyMcFly84 · 03-12-2015 03:15PM

In fairness, the UFC has always done an impeccable job of keeping the results of TUF under wraps. I can't recall any instance where it's been spoiled before the finale, but I haven't been watching it since series 1 so that may have happened.

Based on his performances during the season, I'd be more inclined to think Artem is in the finale, but I've absolutely no concrete knowledge of that. He's definitely on the TUF finale card at least, Conor already said that much.

I have been told the threats of legal/financial action against the fighters is huge. Let alone ever fighting in the UFC.

Would be enough to keep anyone quiet. I think everyone who works on the show is a UFC employee so they keep it trim.

shano_88 · 03-12-2015 04:20PM

Saul - Artem final I think.

Id have Saul favourite the overall favourite now.

DeVore · 03-12-2015 05:14PM

Me too (think I said it on here as well)... he seems the smartest fighter in there in terms of fight IQ. If he fights Artem you can bet he wont walk into a barnburner with Artem, he'll stay at range and win a points decision.

Todd Toddington III · 03-12-2015 05:52PM

shano_88 wrote:

Saul - Artem final I think.

They've fought brfore, I believe it's on YouTube. Good fight too, both fighters fooked by the end of it. Saul won but not by a lot

ASOT · 03-12-2015 05:59PM

Think Gunni might have let something slip is him and artems media scrum, he said he believes in artems night fight his opponent will be waking up looking at herb Dean, seems a bit percise with the ref etc....

John_D80 · 03-12-2015 06:24PM

Todd Toddington III wrote: »

They've fought brfore, I believe it's on YouTube. Good fight too, both fighters fooked by the end of it. Saul won but not by a lot

Artem was very unlucky to be on the wrong end of the spit decision last time they met. Having seen their previous fight I would honestly fancy Artem to win against Saul if the squared off again.

Subcomandante Marcos · 03-12-2015 06:28PM

DeVore wrote: »

Slight Aside:
I never understood when proponents of one martial art get all negative about others (it happens rarely in here, but much more so on the wider web... maybe its because by its very nature MMA instils appreciation for the other art forms?).
I have recently started watching Rener Gracie's breakdowns. I've never rolled on a mat with anyone, Muay Thai is my thing, but watching his breakdowns is just awesome. Its the same with watching Hall... he's obviously brilliant at BJJ, its enjoyable just to sit back and watch him work. He did a transition from one leg lock to another (Conor pointed it out in the interview afterwards) that was just.... WUT?! HOWDIDODAT?!

I'd like to see more of Hall in action myself, probably at a lower weightclass I reckon too. Also, if you want to see BJJ explained for people like me (the hard-of-brain), check out Rener Gracies breakdowns, they're good!

Rener and his brothers are fantastic coaches too. I was in cali for a month a year and a bit ago and trained at the academy for a few weeks, really nice guys and super welcoming of visitors, wouldn't take money from me for the first week either, which I was surprised about.

Ekels · 03-12-2015 09:14PM

Really can't stand that Erosa guy. Thought his insults and goading towards Chris Gritz was disgusting and needless. Also can't stand that face he makes walking out and the way he moves his lower body in stand-up.

Feeling an Artem and Saul final too with a Saul win. That guy seems to be more capable all-round but I think Artem will still have a UFC fight under his belt by the time 2016 is over.

Ekels · 05-12-2015 05:52PM

martyos121 wrote: »

In fairness, the UFC has always done an impeccable job of keeping the results of TUF under wraps. I can't recall any instance where it's been spoiled before the finale, but I haven't been watching it since series 1 so that may have happened.

Based on his performances during the season, I'd be more inclined to think Artem is in the finale, but I've absolutely no concrete knowledge of that. He's definitely on the TUF finale card at least, Conor already said that much.

https://youtu.be/kAmmWOazboc?t=19m10s

This is where Conor confirms that Artem will be fighting at the TUF finale.

Subcomandante Marcos · 05-12-2015 05:55PM

Ekels wrote: »

https://youtu.be/kAmmWOazboc?t=19m10s

This is where Conor confirms that Artem will be fighting at the TUF finale.

There'll be 4 or 5 fights with contestants on that card.

Paully D · 05-12-2015 06:19PM

I wonder if wanting to keep the Team Europe v Team USA angle going during this coming week play into that Erosa decision at all? I completely disagreed with it. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to see Artem KO'ing him next week.

Lukker- · 05-12-2015 07:33PM

I thought Eroza deserved to go through. Abnar is a good boxer but he has no gas tank, he tired in all his fights. No pop in his punches either, he was landing straight lefts at will but they all just seemed to be glancing blows after the first round.

I actually thought the first fight should have gone to a 3rd round though, that second round was so poor, some of the worst grappling on display so far.

Ekels · 06-12-2015 12:01PM

Yeah, I thought it was a poor fight. Abnar had good technique but only to the extent that power had deserted him. 'Juicy J' did a decent job of evading and absorbing all that Abnar through at him and I don't think Abnar inflicted enough harm to be deemed the winner.

On the other hand, Teymur seemed to be inflicting a lot of damage with his kicks in the first fight and Marcin slogged it out well but I think a 3rd round was the best call.

I think Saul and Artem will both be signed up by the UFC. Saul is a serious operator and Dana has that ****-eating grin every time he speaks about Artem. There's room for an Irish fighter in the UFC and Artem is a powerful striker and likes to talk. He handles the media excellently in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C1dzdnzYrI (love the Dublin accent by Gunnar in this, by the way. Right down to how he pronounces 'but' as 'buh'). Very interesting to note he was responsible for the only 2 knockouts so far in TUF. Again, Dana will give him a shot on that basis, I think.

Erosa is a clown and Marcin is good all-round but a big of a slogger really. Don't think either of them will be picked up the UFC.

DeVore · 06-12-2015 12:22PM

Jesus could someone just, you know, calm Gunni down? He's just going fncking wild in that video. The raw energy off him...

cloudatlas · 06-12-2015 12:24PM

The hypocrisy of Coach Kavanagh deriding Joseph Duffy. Joseph Duffy is in the UFC because of Conor. Artem is there because of ...

I don't find Artem interesting at all.

loudnoises89 · 06-12-2015 03:07PM

Duffy isn't flowy enough for Bainisteoir Kavanagh. No but seriously you can't expect him to promote someone who embarrassed his star pupil in fairness. In recent interviews he has been complimentary of Duffy so maybe he no longer has a chip on his shoulder.

hefferboi · 06-12-2015 10:36PM

I disliked Artem at the start, thought he was a clown. The more the show has gone on and from videos online I actually really like him. Seems like a nice lad and very funny. 4 of us were watching the last episode on friday night and we were all in stitches with his comment at the end to Erosa. "Christmas is over, no more presents" literally lol'd.

Ekels · 06-12-2015 10:42PM

hefferboi wrote: »

I disliked Artem at the start, thought he was a clown. The more the show has gone on and from videos online I actually really like him. Seems like a nice lad and very funny. 4 of us were watching the last episode on friday night and we were all in stitches with his comment at the end to Erosa. "Christmas is over, no more presents" literally lol'd.

Ah yeah, he kinda shoots his mouth off to be like Conor but he showed balls telling Dana he wanted to fight Erosa and was the only contestant to approach Dana throughout the competition.

He's got a really dry sense of humour and I reckon he's a nice chap too. All the best to him.

Again, if he's coming up against Saul in the final then I can only see one winner but I'll be shouting for Artem.

John_D80 · 07-12-2015 07:02AM

Ekels wrote: »

Ah yeah, he kinda shoots his mouth off to be like Conor but he showed balls telling Dana he wanted to fight Erosa and was the only contestant to approach Dana throughout the competition.

Re: the bolded bit.

How do you know he was the only fighter to 'approach' Dana like this?

And to be honest I dont see anything ballsy about trying to get a fight with the weakest fighter left in the competition. I'm a huge supporter of Artem's but real balls would have been calling out Saul or Marcin, not Julian.

Mellor · 07-12-2015 09:28AM

John_D80 wrote: »

Re: the bolded bit.

How do you know he was the only fighter to 'approach' Dana like this?

And to be honest I dont see anything ballsy about trying to get a fight with the weakest fighter left in the competition. I'm a huge supporter of Artem's but real balls would have been calling out Saul or Marcin, not Julian.

I imagine fighting the guy from the U.S. Rather than a team mate is the preferred option. I don't rate Marcin too much either, consider either him or Julian to be about the same level.

ASOT wrote: »

Think Gunni might have let something slip is him and artems media scrum, he said he believes in artems night fight his opponent will be waking up looking at herb Dean, seems a bit percise with the ref etc....

What does that let slip? Has it been confirmed herb is ref'ing the final?

Off to the books I go

ASOT · 07-12-2015 09:40AM

Mellor wrote: »

I imagine fighting the guy from the U.S. Rather than a team mate is the preferred option. I don't rate Marcin too much either, consider either him or Julian to be about the same level.

What does that let slip? Has it been confirmed herb is ref'ing the final?

Off to the books I go

Well if he's refing artems semi final I'd be fairly confident he kocks him out then, that's what I was getting at!

Mellor · 07-12-2015 11:37AM

ASOT wrote: »

Well if he's refing artems semi final I'd be fairly confident he kocks him out then, that's what I was getting at!

Ah right, I assumed he was talking about his upcoming match up, not the semi.
Have they announced the refs yet?

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TUF 22 - Europe vs USA (McGregor & Faber coaching)Contains Spoilers