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Man denied sex with 15-year-old until it was proven he was her baby’s father

  • 30-11-2015 07:59PM
    #1
    Crann na Beatha
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  • #2
    fleet_admiral
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    JT26 wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/court-defilement-of-15-year-old-2462644-Nov2015/

    Some snippets



    Shocked at the lenient sentence 3 years,another crazy case with the judiciary in Ireland.
    No doubt its three years more than a woman would get for the same crime


  • #3
    Mekhi Mealy Iron
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    Yes that's definitely the important thing in a case where a child is pregnant


  • #4
    whatdoicare
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    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    No doubt its three years more than a woman would get for the same crime

    Because the issue here isn't about how a 32 year old had sex with a minor, got her pregnant and denied it until it was genetically proven while in the meantime the girl was cast out from her family and forced to have her baby alone under HSE care and now won't be going to third level education for the foreseeable future or most likely, not at all, putting her at risk of poverty....
    no, the issue here is that in a hypothetical situation where the roles were reversed an already stupidly lenient sentence might (but probably not) be even more lenient. That's exactly what we need to focus on :rolleyes:


  • #5
    Hammer89
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    Headline is slightly misleading. I thought the 15-year-old was refusing to shag him again until he got a DNA test.


  • #6
    Hoboo
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    whatdoicare wrote: »
    Because the issue here isn't about how a 32 year old had sex with a minor, got her pregnant and denied it until it was genetically proven while in the meantime the girl was cast out from her family and forced to have her baby alone under HSE care and now won't be going to third level education for the foreseeable future or most likely, not at all, putting her at risk of poverty....
    no, the issue here is that in a hypothetical situation where the roles were reversed an already stupidly lenient sentence might (but probably not) be even more lenient. That's exactly what we need to focus on :rolleyes:


    Sounds like we need to focus on her family. What a bunch of c**ts.


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  • #7
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Disowned by the family as well poor young one hopefully she can get her life back on track eventually


  • #8
    Mr McBoatface
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    Hoboo wrote: »
    Sounds like we need to focus on her family. What a bunch of c**ts.

    Probably refugees like the rapist ..... we must respect their culture..... blah blah blah

    This is what we are letting into our country folks


  • #9
    gctest50
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    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Probably refugees like the rapist ..... we must respect their culture..... blah blah blah

    This is what we are letting into our country folks

    However, Dr Mulcahy rejected all the allegations and insisted they had never happened.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0421/695716-kevin-mulcahy/

    A jury failed to reach a verdict when Dr Mulcahy was first tried on a charge of indecently assaulting the girl in November, 2013.

    At the re-trial yesterday, the jury deliberated for 40 minutes before returning a unanimous guilty verdict.

    In October of last year, Dr Mulcahy was found not guilty of sexually assaulting a separate, 13-year old patient 25 year ago.



    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2015/1125/749171-kevin-mulcahy/


  • #10
    ceadaoin.
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    The poor girl. It said in the article that the next morning he told her that what they did wasn't sex. Sounds like he took advantage of a naive young girl.

    Even after being caught out by the DNA test he still claims the girl instigated it. He only regrets it because now he has to go to prison. No care for the impact on his victims life which by the sounds of it has been severely affected. 3 years is no time at all and no doubt he will be released earlier.


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    Crann na Beatha
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  • #12
    El Weirdo
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    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Probably refugees like the rapist ..... we must respect their culture..... blah blah blah

    This is what we are letting into our country folks

    Get ta fuck.


  • #13
    Mr McBoatface
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    gctest50 wrote: »
    A jury failed to reach a verdict when Dr Mulcahy was first tried on a charge of indecently assaulting the girl in November, 2013.

    At the re-trial yesterday, the jury deliberated for 40 minutes before returning a unanimous guilty verdict.

    In October of last year, Dr Mulcahy was found not guilty of sexually assaulting a separate, 13-year old patient 25 year ago.



    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2015/1125/749171-kevin-mulcahy/

    I doubt the family of the young girl concerned in this case disowned her the way the victim of the refugee rapist did. Most civilized people on this Island wouldn't disown a family member who was sexually assaulted .... certain culture coming into this country would.

    That was the point I was making


  • #14
    kylith
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    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    I doubt the family of the young girl concerned in this case disowned her the way the victim of the refugee rapist did. Most civilized people on this Island wouldn't disown a family member who was sexually assaulted .... certain culture coming into this country would.

    That was the point I was making

    It's not so long ago that the same would have happened here.


  • #15
    oppenheimer1
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    kylith wrote: »
    It's not so long ago that the same would have happened here.

    And its not part of our collective history that I'd say many are particularly proud of.

    I don't personally understand how a family could disown one of their own after what she had been through, forcing her into care. They're almost as bad as her rapist.


  • #16
    Birneybau
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    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Probably refugees like the rapist ..... we must respect their culture..... blah blah blah

    This is what we are letting into our country folks

    Mulcahy is a great Syrian name...


  • #17
    KERSPLAT!
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    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Probably refugees like the rapist ..... we must respect their culture..... blah blah blah

    This is what we are letting into our country folks

    MOD

    Take your soapbox elsewhere.


  • #18
    Mr McBoatface
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    Birneybau wrote: »
    Mulcahy is a great Syrian name...

    Mulcahy was involved in a different case, different scumbag rapist. At least Mulcahy's victims had the support of the family.

    From the link in OP
    Michael Bowman SC, defending, said that his client had come to Ireland six years ago seeking asylum after fleeing persecution. Counsel said the man was deeply ashamed of his actions.


  • #19
    Mr McBoatface
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    kylith wrote: »
    It's not so long ago that the same would have happened here.

    Just in case you missed it .... it actually happened here. The victims family haven't moved on with the rest of us it would seem.

    Poor girl, feel sorry for her.


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