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Are spirits, creepy encounters, ghosts, seances, ouija boards etc proof of afterlife

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  • 30-11-2015 1:47am
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    Gerry Rio
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    What do you think? Arent ghosts proof that there's something after all this?

    Are ghosts, spirits etc proof of afterlife? 144 votes

    YES
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    NO
    18% 27 votes
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    #2
    Insect Overlord
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    Nope.

    /thread


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    [Deleted User]
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    They're proof of suggestibility, cold reading, group hysteria, imagination and gullibility.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    What do you think? Arent ghosts proof that there's something after all this?

    Well, no... Becsuse none of the things you list are statisticly reliable....

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    captbarnacles
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    What do you think? Arent ghosts proof that there's something after all this?

    You sound like you have proof of ghosts?


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    My name is URL
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    lol... nice bait thread


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    #7
    Gerry Rio
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    An File wrote: »
    Nope.

    /thread

    Very insightful. Thanks.


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    endacl
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    What you have provided, OP, is a list of things that constitute evidence of stupid.


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    Gerry Rio
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    May I just point the sceptics in the direction of this thread.


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    FortySeven
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    I've been around a while and been around a few places. Never had a hint of anything spooky, the people who tell me about their 'experiences' always seem to be those needy, always trying to impress type people. And vegetarians, always bloody vegetarians.

    So no. The things that do not exist and have no evidence of existing cannot be accepted as proof of an afterlife.


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    Gerry Rio
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    Candie wrote: »
    They're proof of suggestibility, cold reading, group hysteria, imagination and gullibility.


    So everyone in here is like that?


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    [Deleted User]
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    May I just point the sceptics in the direction of this thread.

    Who needs evidence when you have a whole thread full of anecdotes!


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    Insect Overlord
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    Very insightful. Thanks.

    No problemo! :)


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    Omackeral
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    There's actually a really quick way to tell if your house is haunted.













    It isn't.


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    StewartGriffin
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    Not too long ago it was easier to believe in ghosts. When there were shadows in the corner of rooms and you walked home from the pub with a shaky flashlight. Sadly now everything is illuminated and even hearsay and rumour is countered by lack of video evidence.

    In this age of eternal cameras, phones or cctv, check you tube and see the the evidence. Nothing.

    Ghosts don't exist. I wish they did. But they don't.

    :(


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    #16
    Insect Overlord
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    So everyone in here is like that?

    The plural of anecdote is not data.


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    Gerry Rio
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    Candie wrote: »
    Who needs evidence when you have a whole thread full of anecdotes!

    By your previous logic they're all liars or gullible.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    By your previous logic they're all liars or gullible.

    Did I say liar? No, I didn't. Nice try.

    'Psychic's' are certainly either liars or deluded.


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    endacl
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    By your previous logic they're all liars or gullible.

    Mostly gullible, I'd say. That's quite a funny thread.


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    LionelNashe
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    Leaving aside for the moment that there is no such thing as ghosts, and just pretending for the sake of argument that there is such a thing as ghosts.....

    I would think the most likely explanation of a ghost walking across a room or emerging/disappearing through a wall would be that we're getting a glimpse of somebody who existed in the past, maybe because of a thin spot in space-time. i.e. A window to the past has briefly opened, and we can see through it to a moment in history, but it doesn't imply that there was life after death for that person. People have even reported 'phantom buses'.

    Quote:

    The Phantom Bus.

    There can be few hauntings that are as bizarre and dramatic as that which afflicts Cambridge Gardens in the early hours of some mornings.
    The phantom in question is that of a number 7 double decker London bus, last seen in May 1990.
    However, it first came to public attention when, in early one morning in 1934, a motorist driving along Cambridge Gardens, suddenly swerved, for no apparent reason, and was killed when his car hit a wall and burst into flames.
    At the subsequent inquest into his death, witnesses came forward to testify to the existence of a phantom bus that many of them had been seen, more or less at the exact spot where the fatal crash had occurred. They told how it would always appear at round about 1.15am, the time that the crash had occurred, and spoke of their terror as it came racing along the centre of the road towards them. No driver was ever visible, and no lights were ever on


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    The Randy Riverbeast
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    If there was proof of spirits, ghosts etc then maybe.

    Creepy encounters might be creepy but there would be an explanation or is just coincidence.


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    endacl wrote: »
    Mostly gullible, I'd say. That's quite a funny thread.

    Or drunk/exhausted/experiencing sleep paralysis/stressed/highly imaginative and suggestible.

    No, wait!

    Believing in phantoms and ghosts and things that go bump in the night is much more logical!


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    Savage Tyrant
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    Spirits, seances, ghosts and ouija boards are NOT proof of the afterlife... They do belong in the same category though... Listed under complete nonsense.


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    Gerry Rio
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    There are over 3 thousand posts in that "Creepy" thread.

    3 thousand!

    So lets say half those posts are replies and not stories, that leaves 1,500 claims of encounters.

    They're all liars?


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    FortySeven
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    There are over 3 thousand posts in that "Creepy" thread.

    3 thousand!

    So lets say half those posts are replies and not stories, that leaves 1,500 claims of encounters.

    They're all liars?

    Yes. There are a few million others too.

    Like these guys, they drive around Galway in a beat up old car with the cheapest stickers all over it. Fair play to them, they have a market but who are we kidding.

    http://connachttribune.ie/galway-s-ghost-hunters-probe-the-paranormal/


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    Azalea
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    I keep an open mind about there being more outside the dimension we inhabit/are aware of. Might be nothing, but can't know for sure. People say to respect that religious people have their beliefs, why not the same applied to those who believe in the supernatural?

    I know there are odious scammers that take advantage though.


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    Insect Overlord
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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    They're all liars?

    Not liars. Story-tellers. Some of them very good story-tellers too.

    Not too many of them are claiming to offer proof of an "afterlife".


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    FortySeven
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    Azalea wrote: »
    I keep an open mind about there being more outside the dimension we inhabit/are aware of. Might be nothing, but can't know for sure. People say to respect that religious people have their beliefs, why not the same applied to those who believe in the supernatural?

    I know there are odious scammers that take advantage though.

    We should respect peoples 'rights' to belief. No expectation to respect the belief itself.

    I personally find it all disturbing. Belief without evidence. Faith. Etc.

    Not much respect for the right to logic from the other side.


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    con___manx1
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    I used t live in a house facing a cemetary.the weirdst thing about it was i used too see an old woman at night. She was always in the same spot beside the same grave. I never seen her leave or arrive.I don't live there anymore thank god. Hope she wasn't a goast ; ) she was always alone and I never seen her face it was always too dark. I'm sure she was just a poor grieving person. But graveyards creep me out . people who say they don't believe in goasts are mostly full of crap. I no a few places that they wouldn't spend a night alone for sure. There are some really old overgrown grave yards that are really isolated too. I suppose the people who don't believe would have no problem pitching a tent and spending the night in one without one thought of a goast. I very much doubt it ; )


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    Gerry Rio
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    An File wrote: »
    Not liars. Story-tellers. Some of them very good story-tellers too.

    Not too many of them are claiming to offer proof of an "afterlife".

    They're telling stories of spirit like encounters. That they believe in.

    They're all wrong? All of them? You dont believe that one of the hundreds of stories in there had an real encounter with a spirit?


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    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    There are over 3 thousand posts in that "Creepy" thread.

    3 thousand!

    So lets say half those posts are replies and not stories, that leaves 1,500 claims of encounters.

    They're all liars?



    Three thousand posts and how many instances of hard proof...?


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