Is pinching someone's butt sexual assault?

blackcard · 29-11-2015 06:29PM #1

First I am a bloke. I have never pinched anyone's butt nor do I condone it. I have had my butt pinched twice by women on a hen's night out. No big deal. I appreciate it is different for a female and it happens more frequently . I would say that it is down the scale from groping someone or feeling their breast. So is it sexual assault?

Fox_In_Socks · 29-11-2015 06:31PM

It lies between a gentle cupping and an arse slap.

It's a sliding scale of severity.

frag420 · 29-11-2015 06:33PM

Only if you get a bloody nose afterwards......

My name is URL · 29-11-2015 06:45PM

It's not as bad as calling it a 'butt'

Martypants1 · 29-11-2015 06:47PM

It is if a man does it to a woman but it's only craic if a woman does it to a man.

dd972 · 29-11-2015 06:54PM

What, pinch as in 'to steal'.....:P

Fleawuss · 29-11-2015 07:10PM

Irish Statute book says indecent assault is sexual assault since 1990. So I'm guessing yes is the answer to OP

blackcard · 29-11-2015 07:15PM

Fleawuss wrote: »

Irish Statute book says indecent assault is sexual assault since 1990. So I'm guessing yes is the answer to OP

Tbh, I was flattered when it happened to me, gave her a wink

Fleawuss · 29-11-2015 07:36PM

blackcard wrote: »

Tbh, I was flattered when it happened to me, gave her a wink

Well ya dirty b@@llix.

29-11-2015 07:38PM

blackcard wrote: »

Tbh, I was flattered when it happened to me, gave her a wink

I personally hate it. I've had it done it me a few times and worse. It's really annoying.

Now with the topic at hand.. I think it largely depends on the circumstance. If you don't know the person, then it certainly disrespectful.

smash · 29-11-2015 07:57PM

Only if a finger slips between the cheeks

toptom · 29-11-2015 07:58PM

Total violation of your body to have your bum pinched by a pervert

Lizony · 29-11-2015 08:00PM

Ive had it on a bus and I was raging with him it was really not appropriate and shouldnt be acceptable by either men or women.

MadsL · 29-11-2015 08:01PM

Consent is sexy.
Silence is not consent.

c_man · 29-11-2015 08:17PM

toptom wrote: »

Total violation of your body to have your bum pinched by a pervert

Nice one, I'm a not a pervert so it's happy days.

biko · 29-11-2015 08:28PM

If you have to ask it probably is.

kylith · 29-11-2015 08:30PM

Yes, it is. Whether it's done by a man or a woman.

29-11-2015 08:31PM

It's on the lower end of the scale but it is assault if someone, male or female, puts a hand on another against their wishes.

tayto lover · 29-11-2015 08:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I personally hate it. I've had it done it me a few times and worse. It's really annoying.

Now with the topic at hand.. I think it largely depends on the circumstance. If you don't know the person, then it certainly disrespectful.

If you have a bony arse it's sorer.

DivingDuck · 29-11-2015 08:41PM

Legally yes-- and also morally, in my opinion.

This country has a terrible attitude about non-consensual touching. When a woman does it to a man, it's "Sure he should be delighted" and when a man does it to a woman, it's "Sure that's normal, and boys will be boys". Touching someone without their consent is wrong, especially in a "sexual" area (bum, breasts, genitals).

Don't put your hands on someone's bits without their consent. This should not be a hard edict to follow, and social pressure should be brought to bear on those who do otherwise instead of making excuses for it and encouraging them.

blackcard · 29-11-2015 08:49PM

Candie wrote: »

It's on the lower end of the scale but it is assault if someone, male or female, puts a hand on another against their wishes.

Not disagreeing with you but has anyone been charged with pinching someone's bum and, if they have, what was the penalty? (Btw, as a male, if a bloke pinched my butt, I would be extremely offended)

29-11-2015 08:53PM

blackcard wrote: »

Not disagreeing with you but has anyone been charged with pinching someone's bum and, if they have, what was the penalty? (Btw, as a male, if a bloke pinched my butt, I would be extremely offended)

I remember a thread a few years ago when a guy was either fined or jailed for following a girl and slapping her on the butt. I don't think it's the kind of thing that goes before the courts much though.

CameraBag · 29-11-2015 09:05PM

blackcard wrote: »

First I am a bloke. I have never pinched anyone's butt nor do I condone it. I have had my butt pinched twice by women on a hen's night out. No big deal. I appreciate it is different for a female and it happens more frequently . I would say that it is down the scale from groping someone or feeling their breast. So is it sexual assault?

Yes it would count as sexual assualt. And I'd say most people would respond in a fairly frosty manner, but at most I could imagine it leading to a bouncer kicking you out of a club / pub. I can't imagine most people being so put out that they involve the guards.

29-11-2015 09:25PM

tayto lover wrote: »

If you have a bony arse it's sorer.

Not going to lie, I've a fine arse.

Lux23 · 29-11-2015 09:27PM

Yes, it's sexual assault regardless of what sex the victim is.

BBDBB · 29-11-2015 09:28PM

If it's not, then you aren't doing it right

Capt'n Midnight · 29-11-2015 09:36PM

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/2/enacted/en/html

Assault.

2.—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly—

(a) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or

(b) causes another to believe on reasonable grounds that he or she is likely immediately to be subjected to any such force or impact,

without the consent of the other.

(2) In subsection (1) (a), “force” includes—

(a) application of heat, light, electric current, noise or any other form of energy, and

(b) application of matter in solid liquid or gaseous form.

(3) No such offence is committed if the force or impact, not being intended or likely to cause injury, is in the circumstances such as is generally acceptable in the ordinary conduct of daily life and the defendant does not know or believe that it is in fact unacceptable to the other person.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both.

blackcard · 29-11-2015 09:38PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/2/enacted/en/html

So, the answer is yes

Azrel · 29-11-2015 09:46PM

Lizony wrote: »

Ive had it on a bus and I was raging with him it was really not appropriate and shouldnt be acceptable by either men or women.

Maybe he was just reminding you that you should be at home washing the dishes, and not out and about on public transport?

MadsL · 29-11-2015 10:18PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

DivingDuck · 29-11-2015 10:36PM

MadsL wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

I agree fully with the spirit of this video, but I'm not sure this is a helpful comparison for Ireland...

I have a lovely GIF of Mrs Doyle as an example, if only I could post it here...

Is pinching someone's butt sexual assault?

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